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**ElvenPath** · 2004-06-10, 17:21

Nice move from ADV. It's sad to see all this whining from people who disrespect fansub ethics.

NoSanninWa · 2004-06-10, 17:21

The same message is on downloadanime, but they listed the titles that ADV wants them to remove.

Quote:

Originally Posted by downloadanime

At http://www.downloadanime.org/postt6154.html there is a link to http://www.downloadanime.org/circuit...yproxy.com.txt which lists:
This office represents A.D. Vision, Inc. (ADV) and its affiliated companies that own and/or are exclusively licensed to use the following protected work (the "Protected Work"):

Azumanga Daioh
D.N. Angel
Final Fantasy: Unlimited
Full Metal Panic
Gantz
Golden Boy
Gravion
King of Bandit Jing
Martian Successor Nadesico (Nadesico)
Mezzo
Najica (Najica Blitz Tactics)
Neon Genesis Evangelion (Evangelion)
Noir
Original Dirty Pair
Peace Maker
Pretear
Princess TuTu
Puni Puni Poemy
Rahxephon
Robotech
Saint Seiya
Sailor Moon
Sakura Wars
Samurai X
Slayers
Spriggan
Steel Angel Kurumi
The Super Milk-Chan Show
Those Who Hunt Elves II
UFO Princess Walkure (UFO Princess Valkyrie)
Ushio and Tora
Zaion: I Wish You Were Here (I Wish You Were Here)
Zone of Enders : Dolores (Z.O.E. Dolores)

Strangely they list Sailor Moon. We already know that they lost that license. That makes me think that this might be a hoax if they made such a basic error. Still, he claims in that post that he contacted ADV and they confirmed this...

Secca · 2004-06-10, 17:23

Woah they have Gantz?

**ElvenPath** · 2004-06-10, 17:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Secca

Woah they have Gantz?

It's being currently discussed here.

hamiko_san · 2004-06-10, 17:31

DAMN ADV AND DAM YOU ALL!

Wandering_Youth · 2004-06-10, 17:34

I knew it was going to happen sooner or later so I'm not shocked about it. It's a good thing I saw all those animes a long time before the got licensed. I wonder when they're going to start knocking on Animesuki's door?

Edit: Heh, I wonder if Bandai and the other companies are going to follow ADV path.

jbondsr · 2004-06-10, 17:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by microlith

HAHAHA!!!

Oh wow, it's amusing seeing the whiners on this board and elsewhere: "ADV is evil! I hate them! Let's boycott ADV and all those evil anime companies!"

Now you know why Animesuki maintains a no-licensed-anime policy.

I don't think anyone's really saying that. (at least that's not what I'm saying). I think its more of people just saying what first comes to mind when they've had a good thing going and now its cut-off. We all know, more deep down inside for some, that its wrong to keep distributing what is licensed. They'll have to do more to "try" and get around the current issue with torrents being taken down, like making a DC hub that hosts torrent files. hint, hint

But seriously, we should just let the ranting and "whining" continue. There's nothing that can really be done, so the whining will die down once the excitement of removing what's licenesed is done.

segahekui+ · 2004-06-10, 17:37

they probably wont since asuki is pretty clean.. they *could* if they wanted to, but i think asuki helps the companies more then it hurts them

diabolistic · 2004-06-10, 17:40

http://www.animextreme-inc.ca/featur...irates-03.html
a quick link to digital piracy.. and how this has effected the anime industry (a three part article.. part 3 of 3)

people complain that anime is expensive.. but they're nowhere near as expensive as they were 3-5 years ago.

this whole thing leaves me wondering: will they target specific subbing groups now? and how safe is animesuki.com?

Quote:

Originally Posted by segahekui

they probably wont since asuki is pretty clean.. they *could* if they wanted to, but i think asuki helps the companies more then it hurts them

nothing on asuki is licesned.. but it doesn't make it legal to distribute unlicensed anime. although.. the whole 'free test market' thing for the licensing companies is good for business, you can't control who keeps subbing licensed anime and who doesn't.

Prince of Chronics · 2004-06-10, 17:40

well... that's fine... I thought it was all licensed anime in general that wasn't gonna get listed on those sites... but luckily they're just gonna take out the ones licensed by ADV... phew... (or did I misunderstand the above posts?)

Oneesama · 2004-06-10, 17:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wandering_Youth

I knew it was going to happen sooner or later so I'm not shocked about it. It's a good thing I saw all those animes a long time before the got licensed. I wonder when going to start knocking on Animesuki's door?

hopefully not. but since Animesuki is all about unlicensed torrents and things so~ HAVE NO FEAR!~

anyways, I download animes for previews, like someone mentioned before, if they are "good" <-- at my op, i will buy them in stores.

so, it doesn't really affect me.

microlith · 2004-06-10, 17:43

Animesuki maintains the remnants of a system that was in place when a lot of people at ADV got their start, thus I think they're content to leave this site alone so long as it remains proactive with de-listing stuff that is known to be licensed (after all, we can only know what we see or they tell us.)

It doesn't preclude ADV from giving Animesuki a message asking for a series to be delisted, but I'm sure it'd be a lot easier to do so here (and at scarywater) because the systems are already in place which shows the creators had that respect at least somewhat in mind.

Oddly I seem this as kind of amusing, I got started at Animesuki because I noticed licensed shows being listed, and slowly Animesuki started not listing licensed stuff. I sent e-mails to mircx.com about the same subjects but all they did was remove the contact address from the front page ^^

mantidor · 2004-06-10, 17:47

I didn't know I could get azumanga daioh there

since spiggy recomended me (more like threat my life if I didnt get it

) I always wanted to see it, well theres always FL... ooops its in spanish!

Anyone here knows how licences work for latin america? I think that there is simple no licenses at all... we just have to buy imported, and that sucks big time because not even the uber rich people can get a lot of titles, and there is not legal spanish fansub whatsoever...

wnkryo · 2004-06-10, 17:50

*shrugs*

There is always another place to find what others won't put up.

Worldestroyer · 2004-06-10, 17:51

Calm the fu*k down people.
1. We don't really have the right to download licensed anime anyways,
no matter what you may say law is law. And for those people outside the united states.. you must understand that these anime sites are based on the laws and licenses of the US (although this flux's)...
2. I see no mention of ALL licensed anime, if i'm not mistaken they only mention that has been licensed by ADV. So TenTen and Champloo will not be removed unless this action by ADV is supported directly by other companys.
3. You always will have IRC.
4. There will always be something to take the place of a site/group/etc that has been taken down.
5. This could be a hoax.
6. Here is this link for the list.
7. Stop running around like headless chickens, your only making yourself's targets for pro-ethics supporters.
8. Yes i download licensed anime, and i admit it.

Babak · 2004-06-10, 18:01

Heh..
Well, it's OK for me. I'm sure ADV will do a great job with the DVDs.
Besides, there is always a way to get an Anime if you want it that badly.

Superchop · 2004-06-10, 18:08

Lol, this has become a very popular thread...reminds me of when akeep/anbu put up that hoax page and when scarywater went down....

but honestly...i'm surprised mircx only got targeted now...i would've thought for sure it would've been targeted long ago...and like many others said...just cause some titles get taken down doesn't mean it's the end of the world...there are tons of other ways to get your licensed fix...just cause mircx was the easiest to get it doesn't mean it was the only one out there...

I)ark-I)eath · 2004-06-10, 18:09

Gantz? zha? gneh oh well...

wonder if ADV is gonna attack MANGA translators?

Man i know ADV is gonna keep updating that list of thiers....i think....they gonna keep askin XD

wnkryo · 2004-06-10, 18:12

I think they just add anime to their list just to screw with most of us.

lavarock · 2004-06-10, 18:13

Sadly this make me stop getting English subbed animes.
Before English anime fansub groups always presented both quality and speed. However recently it has not been the case, and now this.

2004-06-10, 17:21	Link #21
ElvenPath a step away from heaven Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: U.K. London	Nice move from ADV. It's sad to see all this whining from people who disrespect fansub ethics. __________________ I want a unicorn.

2004-06-10, 17:34	Link #26
Wandering_Youth lost in wonder forever... Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: edge of my dream in the land of twilight...ZzzZzZ	I knew it was going to happen sooner or later so I'm not shocked about it. It's a good thing I saw all those animes a long time before the got licensed. I wonder when they're going to start knocking on Animesuki's door? Edit: Heh, I wonder if Bandai and the other companies are going to follow ADV path. __________________

2004-06-10, 17:40	Link #30
Prince of Chronics One Piece fan Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada	well... that's fine... I thought it was all licensed anime in general that wasn't gonna get listed on those sites... but luckily they're just gonna take out the ones licensed by ADV... phew... (or did I misunderstand the above posts?) __________________ MyAnimeList page

2004-06-10, 17:23	Link #23
Secca nya` Artist Join Date: Feb 2004	Woah they have Gantz?

2004-06-10, 17:31	Link #25
hamiko_san September Jellyfish Join Date: Nov 2003	DAMN ADV AND DAM YOU ALL!

2004-06-10, 17:37	Link #28
segahekui+ t3h r347 n1nj4! Join Date: Apr 2004	they probably wont since asuki is pretty clean.. they could if they wanted to, but i think asuki helps the companies more then it hurts them

2004-06-10, 17:43	Link #32
microlith Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Folsom, CA Age: 41	Animesuki maintains the remnants of a system that was in place when a lot of people at ADV got their start, thus I think they're content to leave this site alone so long as it remains proactive with de-listing stuff that is known to be licensed (after all, we can only know what we see or they tell us.) It doesn't preclude ADV from giving Animesuki a message asking for a series to be delisted, but I'm sure it'd be a lot easier to do so here (and at scarywater) because the systems are already in place which shows the creators had that respect at least somewhat in mind. Oddly I seem this as kind of amusing, I got started at Animesuki because I noticed licensed shows being listed, and slowly Animesuki started not listing licensed stuff. I sent e-mails to mircx.com about the same subjects but all they did was remove the contact address from the front page ^^

2004-06-10, 17:47	Link #33
mantidor the Iniquitous Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: bogotá	I didn't know I could get azumanga daioh there since spiggy recomended me (more like threat my life if I didnt get it ) I always wanted to see it, well theres always FL... ooops its in spanish! Anyone here knows how licences work for latin america? I think that there is simple no licenses at all... we just have to buy imported, and that sucks big time because not even the uber rich people can get a lot of titles, and there is not legal spanish fansub whatsoever...

2004-06-10, 17:50	Link #34
wnkryo HainShodan Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: new york city	shrugs There is always another place to find what others won't put up.

2004-06-10, 17:51	Link #35
Worldestroyer IRC lurker Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Boston, MA USA Age: 35	Calm the fu*k down people. 1. We don't really have the right to download licensed anime anyways, no matter what you may say law is law. And for those people outside the united states.. you must understand that these anime sites are based on the laws and licenses of the US (although this flux's)... 2. I see no mention of ALL licensed anime, if i'm not mistaken they only mention that has been licensed by ADV. So TenTen and Champloo will not be removed unless this action by ADV is supported directly by other companys. 3. You always will have IRC. 4. There will always be something to take the place of a site/group/etc that has been taken down. 5. This could be a hoax. 6. Here is this link for the list. 7. Stop running around like headless chickens, your only making yourself's targets for pro-ethics supporters. 8. Yes i download licensed anime, and i admit it.

2004-06-10, 18:01	Link #36
Babak Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sweden Age: 43	Heh.. Well, it's OK for me. I'm sure ADV will do a great job with the DVDs. Besides, there is always a way to get an Anime if you want it that badly.

2004-06-10, 18:08	Link #37
Superchop Lord Sesshoumaru Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: "Post a Photo of Yourself!" Thread	Lol, this has become a very popular thread...reminds me of when akeep/anbu put up that hoax page and when scarywater went down.... but honestly...i'm surprised mircx only got targeted now...i would've thought for sure it would've been targeted long ago...and like many others said...just cause some titles get taken down doesn't mean it's the end of the world...there are tons of other ways to get your licensed fix...just cause mircx was the easiest to get it doesn't mean it was the only one out there...

2004-06-10, 18:09	Link #38
I)ark-I)eath EnI)eR I)ark I)eath Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Toronto, Ontario Age: 35	Gantz? zha? gneh oh well... wonder if ADV is gonna attack MANGA translators? Man i know ADV is gonna keep updating that list of thiers....i think....they gonna keep askin XD

2004-06-10, 18:12	Link #39
wnkryo HainShodan Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: new york city	I think they just add anime to their list just to screw with most of us.

2004-06-10, 18:13	Link #40
lavarock Busy wasting my time..:-( Join Date: Nov 2003	Sadly this make me stop getting English subbed animes. Before English anime fansub groups always presented both quality and speed. However recently it has not been the case, and now this.