2014-01-08, 09:22 | Link #241 |
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1. Guns are Ranged Weapons and therefore, even with Over Skill, can only be used by certain classes. So far, only Assassins and Swashbucklers have ranged weapon proficiencies.
2. Guns are complex devices requiring lots of moving parts. A Mechanic is the closest equivalent of subclass to build one and would require very high levels. You could say a lv 90 mechanic is a Gunsmith. 3. However, Guns are ingame items and therefore follow level requirements. A Lv 1 assassin cannot hope to wield a Lv 90 gun. And Lv 90 guns will not one-shot mobs, just like swords do not one-shot anything.
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2014-01-08, 09:25 | Link #242 | |
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How about making Gunner a Sub-class rather than main class? You can't change your main class but you can change your subclass.
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2014-01-08, 09:55 | Link #243 |
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Minor antagonist to appear in a future chapter of Crossplayers
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2014-01-08, 14:06 | Link #245 | ||
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Ever played Borderlands? It's a co-op online shooter using lots of RPG mechanics, the closest comparison we'll get. And unless your headshot will do enough damage to bring its HP to zero, no creature in that game will die from just one. Not as far as I've seen, no. Last edited by Keroko; 2014-01-08 at 15:12. |
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2014-01-09, 00:31 | Link #248 | |
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And in regards to whether or not it is appropriate setting-wise; it typically would not be, if not for the fact that Elder Tales is a global-spanning game. We're not stuck on one area or continent, there are plenty of opportunities for alternative weapon technology to develop elsewhere. During the time period most high fantasy is based on, gunpowder technology had already developed in the Far East, especially China (although the focus was more on rockets, than cannons). If guns didn't exist, they will eventually through Overskill, especially here in the gun-crazed United States. |
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2014-01-09, 09:12 | Link #250 |
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Name: Seigefried
Class: Guardian Cleric Title: Midas' Hand Kingpin (Obtain when max out Gold limit) Overskill: Everything has a price (Bribe ability) A player who had been playing the game ever since it started. Somehow manage to accumulated a huge amount of gold (by providing Raid service). Created a Guild just to store his gold. A nice person with a dark side that is willing to use underhand methods to get result. Due to his influence in seven strongest guilds in the region, he runs area under his control like a mob-boss, willing to drown/kill any players who refuse to follow his rule... (repeatedly). He is the one who give false hope that if somebody can clear the Twin Tower Dungeon, they can return to the real world. The sad truth is that he bought the Twin Tower dungeon and he can always spawn a boss into the tower whenever he wanted, making it impossible to clear the Twin Tower dungeon. Always surrounded by girls due to his good look. ==
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2014-01-09, 20:19 | Link #252 |
Adeptus Animus
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I have to agree with Sheba here. Just buying the guild hall was a move that force Shiroe to gather the combined finances of the three top merchant guilds. I find it highly unlikely that someone who earned his finances through raiding would have that amount of capital.
But while on the subject, it's good to remember that buildings also have upkeep costs. Buying a building does not mean you are done spending money on it. |
2014-01-09, 20:29 | Link #255 |
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To add to Keroko's post:
If grinding and raiding are microeconomics, playing the market like in Eve Online and how Shiroe did it with Henrietta is few tiers above. |
2014-01-09, 20:31 | Link #256 |
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On your Overskill, I feel that you could have just set it as a normal skill for a normal subclass like Diplomat, Smuggler, Mafioso/Yakuza/Gangster, etc. The types that would use bribes and the sort to get things working their way. Not only that, even bribery requires a certain level of negotiation, which would also be something the examples I mentioned would be good at, with varying aptitude of course.
Also, on buying Boss Monsters over.... Can you even communicate with them in the first place?
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2014-01-09, 20:34 | Link #257 | |
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As for the boss monsters, they are actually from the Dungeon.... Edit: As for communication.... Defeat + Bribe = Friendship? The whole idea is the Sea-Log Guild burned their bridge by pissing off the wrong person (Easier than pissing off an Army of PK-ers). They could not go back anymore and they can only move forward.
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2014-01-09, 20:55 | Link #258 | |
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For reference, Akiba's Guild Centre was bought at five million gold. The city of Akiba itself iirc would need seven hundred million with a monthly maintenance fee of 1.2 million gold. If we use Akiba as an example, then the monthly maintenance fee might be around 17% of the initial buying price, though to be honest this percentage is just a guess =3 Er, I'm stating the obvious but the Boss would be dead if you defeat it. And how do you intend to bribe them? Gold, they have and they don't seem to have a need for that anyway. Mutual help? Bah, out of my dungeon and stay out, would be the most possible reply imho, if they can talk in the first place.
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2014-01-09, 21:08 | Link #259 | ||
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= If all else fail, backup plan is: him having influence over powerful combat guilds. Doesn't really matter much so long as I get the intended result. (Sea Log pissed him off and they can't return to that area)
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2014-01-09, 21:15 | Link #260 | |
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I really think going with influence over the local big combat guilds is the better way to go here. |
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