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Old 2013-11-24, 12:55   Link #2961
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Night Raid is a unit created by the revolutionary army to handle covert operations such as assassinations and gather intelligent. Meaning they are part of the Revolutionary Army.
You see, those things are just what Najenda said to gain Tatsumi's trust. I don't think anyone in the NR except Najenda has any contact with the revolution's leadership, so they cannot have any accurate knowledge about them beside pretty information used to brainwash soldiers, just like how North Korea's leaders make their people think everything related to the West are evil.
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Old 2013-11-24, 13:26   Link #2962
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^And why Najenda need to gain his trust? Ok she hear thing about him from Leona, but let's be honest here, is not like that he was someone that she need to gain on her/Nr side no matter what.

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What's more? If anyone who love battle deserve death then the world doesn't have that much soldier left...
The problem is ESdese not just love fight she love torture . I remind you that she admit this herself.

And the scene with Leona show this even more. Thought I do agree with you guys that we don't know enough about the Ra.

I can totally see them kill who survive of the NR after the whole thing is done.
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Old 2013-11-24, 13:29   Link #2963
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You see, those things are just what Najenda said to gain Tatsumi's trust. I don't think anyone in the NR except Najenda has any contact with the revolution's leadership, so they cannot have any accurate knowledge about them beside pretty information used to brainwash soldiers, just like how North Korea's leaders make their people think everything related to the West are evil.
I do not agree with you, so where did Chelsea come from? and Suu? I doubt Najenda just took a stroll to the palace and went in to the teigu room. Oh and while she was there she ran in to Esdese. Both chatted exchanged a few smiles and went on with their business

What about the regional teams that the three beasts killed? I dont know man evidence point to the opposite. And like soji said it makes no sense to really get Tatsumi on their side. Sure he has great potential for how young he is, but essentially he had nothing when he joined.
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Old 2013-11-24, 14:50   Link #2964
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Ch 42

I liked how Akame basically one panelled that new Teigu user after all that build up. Didn't even pick up his weapon to show how of a fodder cannon he was.

That said, can some explain to me why the hell did Tatsumi stick around to fight Esdese again instead of making a beeline in his invisible mode straight for Borick? With Kurome weaken after using her Teigu this would have been his best opportunity. i defended his actions last chapter because they were understand, but this time was just stupid. The point of this battle is to not fight Esdese.
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Old 2013-11-24, 14:57   Link #2965
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Kinda expecting the scythe wielder to have a resurrection ability of some kind...after the whole "Esdese freezes stuff, so why not time?", nothing will ever surprise me again in this manga.
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Old 2013-11-24, 15:05   Link #2966
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Mayhap tatsumi will pick it up on the way out. Has there ever been anything that said you can't have two teigu
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Old 2013-11-24, 15:39   Link #2967
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Very detached part of it, if you ask me

Anyway, it's true we don't know thing about actual intentions of RA, and I doubt many members of NR knows more than Tatsumi in that metter. So yeah NR is hardly representative sample of movement.
It doesn't matter. Night Raid is operating in the capital, where the prime minister is located. That alone makes them an important asset to the rebel army.

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Can't we just all agree that Esdesse has same chance to die as Rabac or Leone ?
She does not simply for the fact that she is the main antagonist right now. Rabac and Leone are important as well but Esdese isn't going to die that easily.

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You see, those things are just what Najenda said to gain Tatsumi's trust. I don't think anyone in the NR except Najenda has any contact with the revolution's leadership, so they cannot have any accurate knowledge about them beside pretty information used to brainwash soldiers, just like how North Korea's leaders make their people think everything related to the West are evil.
Except you know, the empire is actually evil.

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It doesn't mean revolutionary army are any better (though neither that they aren't though.
I never said anything about either side being better than the other and neither did you in your initial post. Please stop bending your arguments.

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Old 2013-11-24, 15:49   Link #2968
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It doesn't mean revolutionary army are any better. You can't expect expect clean distinction between good and evil in a world where main protagonists are ruthless assassins...

And regardless whether they are important assets they are mostly independent and with minimal support as far as we seen.

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She does not simply for the fact that she is the main antagonist right now. Rabac and Leone are important as well but Esdese isn't going to die that easily.
...interesting, so that's how, you decided interpret that line.

Edit: this is my original argument. You yourself quoted it. So I don't see where that accusation of bending own arguments came from.
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Very detached part of it, if you ask me

Anyway, it's true we don't know thing about actual intentions of RA, and I doubt many members of NR knows more than Tatsumi in that metter. So yeah NR is hardly representative sample of movement.

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Old 2013-11-24, 18:51   Link #2969
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Old 2013-11-24, 20:30   Link #2970
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Old 2013-11-24, 20:46   Link #2971
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Old 2013-11-24, 20:55   Link #2972
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Old 2013-11-24, 21:10   Link #2973
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Old 2013-11-24, 21:15   Link #2974
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Old 2013-11-25, 00:05   Link #2975
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And wave once again was thrown far away... I remember he was defeated by Mein like that twice right? Bring thrown away so far with Mein's Pumpkin Roman Artillery Teigu.
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Old 2013-11-25, 03:33   Link #2976
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To Soji and OverSeer
At that time, Tatsumi was already considered as a member of the NR, so what Najenda did is just giving him common information that she gave other members of the NR to make them loyal to the revolution army. Beside, Najenda said he won't die if declining, but with Tatsumi knowing their secret base's location, I doubt he will come out alive if refusing their recruitment. That's what really make no sense.

Actually, the whole things about the NR and revolution army remind me of the series Allias so much. The fact that mostly all of the NR's members know nothing about whom and what they fight for really bugs me.
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Old 2013-11-25, 03:34   Link #2977
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for Wave, the first time wasn't it with Suu?
will this be like a running gag for him now?
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Old 2013-11-25, 03:54   Link #2978
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Fwarlord@Wrong.
Spoiler for what would happen if he decline.:

So yeah. While is true that they would never allow him to go back...as you can see he would end to do other kind of job instead of killing.

NeutralZero@ Yup. The first time was with Suu XD


ANyway interesting the spoiler.

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Old 2013-11-25, 04:03   Link #2979
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Did you seriously take whatever terrorists and killers said as the truth? Najenda maybe said that to him, but did you see any other guy in that base who isn't an assassin? If Tatsumi refused to become one of them and they let him lives, one day he could sneak out and reveal their base's location...
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Old 2013-11-25, 04:06   Link #2980
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its one thing to not believe the words of a terrorist but after experiencing or seeing that, one can't help to waver or be persuaded...

can't wait for the next chapter Wave will be sent flying... again...
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