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View Poll Results: Do you feel sorry for Orihime? | |||
Yes | 93 | 28.88% | |
A little | 36 | 11.18% | |
Hell no | 121 | 37.58% | |
Meh other characters have suffered more. | 65 | 20.19% | |
Other | 7 | 2.17% | |
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2007-06-25, 21:55 | Link #61 | |
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Ichigo, Renji and Ishida are aggressive fighters but they share the same character not because they are strong phsyically but because they have the strength of will. Now if you're going to put Inoue in that light, what about Chad? Chad is certainly not as strong as the others (even Ichigo doesn't think so) but he didn't let that stop him from trying to prove to the others that he is now did it? Chad has the same strength of will as the others have and hopefully Kubo will pull a miracle and somehow make it right for Chad. No one is saying that this current situation is Inoue's fault. But the general consensus of most people is that they are disappointed in her. The people who put Inoue on a pedestral keep on saying that there was no other way to have gone either than the way that she did. You are limiting her options to just ONE and which is what she has taken. I for one believe that there could have been another choice for Inoue. She, at least in comparison to the other's strength, is like Chad. Neither of them can be classified to be in the same league as their enemies at this point. Chad is beaten to a blood pulp and Inoue is held 'captive' (a term I'm not sure is fitting for her situation since she consented to join Aizen). But their key difference lies in the strength of their characters, the strength of their will. Chad has proven that while he isn't going to be in the next issue of Soul Society Super Star, he is made from the same strong character as the others are. Inoue on the other hand is a different story. By joining the enemy, in the guise of 'saving' her friends, she has consented to their plans. |
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2007-06-25, 22:25 | Link #62 | |
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To me, it's like trying to compare Zaraki's actions against Unohana's. Both are captains. Both are inarguably strong in both body and mind. Yet Zaraki tries to cut through anything that stands in his way, while Unohana doesn't raise a finger against anyone the entire SS arc. Are we going to say that Zaraki is strong, while Unohana was a wuss? Of course not. Everyone realizes that Unohana was only concerned about minimizing casualties. I don't see why anyone would expect Inoue to react like Chad or Ichigo in a situation anymore than they'd expect Unohana to react like Zaraki. Of course, Inoue isn't nearly as old or experienced as Unohana. She has self-doubt and can't figure how she fits at times, but she still has room to grow. However, she will never be bold and reckless like Ichigo. Still, people are calling her a lost cause when the arc isn't even over. |
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2007-06-25, 23:23 | Link #63 |
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I think people are calling her a lost cause because of her disability to at least think rationally, set her priorities and trust her own abilities. Her powers were immense and this has been verified by several characters but does this make her feel more confident? No! For what reason I can't even understand. Even Rangiku's pep talk does nothing to boost her confidence and the fact that after a few major events, her character did not manage to attain a significant level of maturity.
She can't decide what she wants to be : Attacker, Defender or Healer and the range of her power is so extensive that it encompasses all 3 and she can pick any one role for her to excel in. Did she do that? No! and she can't decide what she wants which I guess if the reason why Urahara thinks she's a waste. Great powers, huge potential but what's the use of it if you can't decide how you can be of help to the team? That will make you a liability and that's how she's picked up by Aizen : for her powers and naivety to be exploited at his whim and fancy. |
2007-06-26, 04:39 | Link #64 | |
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That's what I dislike with her, she wants to be next to "kurosaki-kun" and fight with him, but her personality is just not made for fighting seriously, and her trying actually caused more troubles (against Yammy, or her abduction because she wanted to go back and help Ichigo). At this point, she should have just acknowledged that and tried to be useful another way, or she should have truly changed and started to be agressive in battles. Now, about her current situation...I don't fault her for joining Aizen, thinking she would help save her friends...But come on, after the whole SS arc and the bond they created, the girl should have known her friends better and have expected them to come save her. How could she be surprised? The girl is an inconsistent mess imo, and now, she doesn't seem to know what she wants to do. After all, she only has 2 choices : either she actively helps her friends to escape HM, or she willingly go back to Aizen to proceed with her plan to destroy the Hōgyoku, which she seems to have forgotten.
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2007-06-26, 05:06 | Link #65 |
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Actually if you think of it from another way, she "dosen't know she can't fight". In her opinion, she hopes that even if its just abit, she could make a difference in the up coming war with her healing powers. Remember how she has saved several times her friends with her healing powers. Her overestimation isnt abnormal. Ichigo has overestimated himself several times, trying to go against grimmjaw and co., getting owned like mad. The thing is, unlike ichigo, she never got the chance to realize she was hopeless. She just got captured.
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2007-06-26, 11:46 | Link #66 | |
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2007-06-26, 13:20 | Link #67 | |
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All I can say is a pure healer has a much different mindset than an attacker does. If she had some training with Hachi (and given the personality of the other Vizards maybe she would have become more agressive as a plus) things might be better. She has had training with how to use her powers more effectively, but not MENTAL training with which to reinforce her spirit. That is where the difference is. |
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2007-06-27, 18:21 | Link #68 | |
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The merry go round of doom, she is going to get herself killed, regardless of whether she is aware of her fictional character status. Last edited by Alea Misa; 2007-06-27 at 19:10. |
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2007-06-28, 01:04 | Link #70 |
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Hi. I'm new here! I hope I can meet a lot of new people and be friends since obviously we share the same interest or I wouldn't be here. But after what I'm about to say I don't think some would want to be my friend.
Okay back to the topic. I never did feel sorry for Orihime. Okay maybe I did at the beginning but it was so long ago that none of that feeling is left what so ever. First of all she bought it upon herself. I mean I know alot of people are already saying this but I mean her powers can really help the team if she stop whining all the time. Spoiler for From awhile back:
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2007-06-28, 08:24 | Link #71 | |
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2007-06-28, 11:48 | Link #72 |
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And you have to realize that I and most of other posters here, think that one way or another Aizen woud have had what he wanted in the end but the thing is, and that's our only point, she didn't try. It's 100% certain that she would have ended in HM whether she fought back or willingly went to there. The result wouldn't have changed if she stood up and refused to heal GJ's arm. But she did have a right to choose the way, unfortunately she has chosen the easy and not-so-honorable way in those two incidents. Many of the readers, at least I, would have respected her if she had fought back, if she had stood up against their will. However, this is not the case, hence the complaints about her defeatist attitude. |
2007-06-28, 15:59 | Link #73 | |
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2007-07-02, 11:56 | Link #75 | ||||
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If she was as strong as ichigo then her confidence would alright. Although ichigo gets depressed everytime he gets pounded by someone stronger. Quote:
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Since she cares about her friends and knows they will die if she stays, she has gone. Orihime didn't just 'join', she saved her friends lives by 'joining'. Since when does ichigo need to understand the reason for something in order to free his friends. Quote:
Maybe if the showed her one of her friends heads on a plate! and said need to see more heads of your friends. Would it been alright if Orihime would have joined then, because she stood up against them. I find it so strange that people who dislike Orihime give these reasons. Saying that she is so strong as her heart and she just need to strengthen her heart. Like that will happen like that. Orihime may need to hit rock bottom in order to climb herself back up again and be a supporting character we would all like. She may strengthen her heart but who is going to teach her how to use her powers. Orihime has been alone for some time, her parents left her, her brother dies. And now the person she loves is drifting away from her, atleast that's what she feels. And when she wants to fight with her friends, she is told we don't need you, we have battle trained healers. So go home and be alone again. Even when she was told all that she didn't sit down and wanted to get stronger. And don't compare Orihime with Sado, atleast he can fight, has the will to fight. But then he and ichigo has been fighting all along. Orihim has just been in fight just recently and couldn't do anything but healing.
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2007-07-02, 12:09 | Link #76 | |
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2007-07-02, 12:19 | Link #77 |
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I think Aizen said that her powers are great, but how does he know that?
And maybe he will train Orihime in her power, would be cool. Orihime could get training by that big vizard guy, but all his powers are on sealing not attack powers, so far what I have seen in the anime. So not the right person to train.
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2007-07-02, 15:09 | Link #78 | |
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Well he may have powers similar to her defensive side of her powers but he's still a good start. She could train with others like rukia even though their powers aren't the same. Maybe urhara could find out more about how her powers work. That guy is full of surprise. |
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2007-07-02, 15:51 | Link #79 |
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I don't think aizen analyzed Orihime's powers, he didn't have the time to do it.
I just think that aizen has a clue but nothing more, besides how does aizen know how strong Orihime's power can be. We know that she must be powerfull, just like Sado, otherwise I will be bored everytime ichigo has to save everone and everything. And having sealing powers is not the same as having a offensive power. What is Orihime going to do, seal the fights everytime. Training with rukia is not the same because their powers are completly different. Don't know if shinigami training methode is the right training for Orihime. And if urhara did know something about Orihime's power then he would have said so. But he doestn't know about her and sado's power, although training sado is easier, hell, he didn't know how to deal with ichigo hollow side.
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