2012-10-11, 09:52 | Link #1221 | |
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Tonight's debate, though, should be less restrained. Hopefully Biden will be able to lay into Romney/Ryan while also presenting a strong front for Obama. To use a predecessor, Biden wants to sound (not look) like Cheney during the 2004 VP debates (where Cheney made Edwards look like a simpering fool, all the while defending Bush's many stupid decisions). |
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2012-10-11, 10:59 | Link #1222 | |
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It's good that you brought the Cheney example about how to know most topics inside out and look very convincing with the decisions made/to be made. When looking back, Edwards looked foolish indeed and it restored the balance back in Bush's favor. |
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2012-10-11, 11:42 | Link #1223 |
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I remember a couple of ultra-conservative relatives very upset with Biden because he treated her like an adult candidate with opposing views rather than a "woman".
Yes, it should make your head spin. This is a lot of fun to watch: the Australian PM skewering her knuckle-dragging misogynist opposition: http://samuel-warde.com/2012/10/aust...-his-misogyny/
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2012-10-11, 13:00 | Link #1225 | |
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2012-10-11, 13:06 | Link #1226 | |
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That, and despite how we all think of Bush Jr., there are actually quite a few Americans that see him as displaying, and I quote, "strong leadership post-911" -- I don't say I agree, but lots(?) of people think that. |
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2012-10-11, 13:09 | Link #1227 | |
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2012-10-11, 15:50 | Link #1229 | |
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Doesn't do that so much anymore, with people growing tired of war and trying to keep it in the back of their minds, so Obama doesn't really have that advantage to the same extent as Bush. And if he loses, he'll end up being that first. |
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2012-10-11, 16:28 | Link #1230 | |
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Clinton was our first modern "center right corporatist" president. The '90s is when banks & Wall Street got a good grip on both sides of the aisle -- it was this period when Main Street got kicked into the street, it was a few years before the bus rolled up over it. There's a bumper sticker that says something like, "If you voted for Bush twice and think Obama is the worst president in history, you really need to stop talking now." ... because it pretty much just documents what a peasant tool of the aristocracy one is if they keep talking.
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2012-10-11, 20:09 | Link #1232 |
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And Biden comes out swinging. Clear and consice differences between the President and Romney. A little heavy handed, but still simplistic (which is good for these types of debates) and sweet. Ryan's doing well, though and all in the first minutes.
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2012-10-11, 20:15 | Link #1234 |
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CNN comes with a "mood ring"? O holy garbage .... I'm watching the PBS channel, less BS.
I think "values" is Ryan's favorite word. As if he were the only one with values - that's a nice bit of religious code word use. After all, non-christians don't have values. Biden's advantage is simply several decades of classical oratory. Ryan, I'll give credit for, so far, he's avoiding direct confrontation at all with Biden.
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2012-10-11, 20:17 | Link #1236 | |
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I thought it interesting that he talked about "standing up for our values" directly after being asked about the urinating on corpses. As if, those are our values? |
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2012-10-11, 20:24 | Link #1239 |
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Yeah, Radditz is doing a good job.
I'm watching on MSNBC. The split screen is fun, but besides that there is no real spangles to the presentation. Also, it's a lot of fun to watch the exchanges between Biden and Ryan. |
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