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Zoe · 2007-12-14, 21:52

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Originally Posted by ChibiDusk

Are there any MMORPG's scheduled for release on the PS3?

NCSoft (? Tabula Rasa) is making at least one exclusively.

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Originally Posted by GHDpro

*) Afaik in the US (and maybe Canada) there was (and maybe still is?!?) a promotion where you get 5 free Blu-ray movies with a purchase of a PS3, I think, but in Europe you only got Casino Royale

That promo was the equivalent of the Talladega Nights pack-in. Of course, Casino Royale was the better deal

Papaya · 2007-12-16, 19:12

Guild Wars 2 would be perfect on the PS3 :O

Bonta Kun · 2007-12-17, 08:52

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Originally Posted by Papaya

Guild Wars 2 would be perfect on the PS3 :O

LOL, now I'm not actually one for console MMORPGs, I think they should stay on a PC, but nowadays consoles come with keyboard and mouse so I guess I wouldn't mind seeing GW 2 on the PS3 as our desktop has finally died on us

But having MMOs on a console, PS would have to bring out much bigger HDs as 40gb just ain't gonna cut it, infact I think now even 40gb is just too small

altho that new sports MMO looks like it would be better suited for consoles than the PC as sports games just don't work on a PC - FACT! don't care what anyone says, certain games just don't work on a PC, like certain games don't work on a console. This may be down to the fact that I think joypads just don't go with PCs

King Lycan · 2008-01-11, 00:20

GW2 for the PS3 would be awesome man

King Lycan · 2008-01-11, 13:55

Yea Sony just got sued again

Sony can't just catch a break, can it? According to Gamespot, a company named the Copper Innovations Group filed suit against Nintendo and Sony for a patent it holds on a "Hand Held Computer Input Apparatus and Method." The patent, filed in January 1996 references devices and their ability to communicate with hardware reference numbers. Sony's PS3 controllers utilize a similar technology.

This isn't the first time Sony has had to face a lawsuit for its controller technology. Famously, Immersion successfully sued Sony for the use of rumble in the DualShock controller. Until the suit was settled, Sony had to remove rumble from their SIXAXIS controllers.

Neither Sony nor Copper Innovations Group has commented about the situation. Will this end up being another headache for Sony?

http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2008/01/11/...ngement-again/

Sides · 2008-01-11, 14:31

Those patent stuff is getting out of control, it is not only a console issue, the whole engineering and design industrie is pretty much suffering. Once you got something on the market you get sued, because someone holds a patent, without using it themselves.

Nevertheless some other stuff that ps3 owners can get looking forward to.
Some screens of Lost planet, dengeki
Trust bell screens, dengenki
Both games are ports/adaption from the 360 games, but will feature new content.

astranagun · 2008-01-11, 16:04

I have bought a used Ps3 but I can't see nothing on my tv (no hd)so I wanted to ask if I can reset it totally.
Can someone help me me?

Sides · 2008-01-11, 16:28

Try powering on the PS3 via power button, and then hold it (power button) for 5 seconds. You should hear a beep tone, just release it then. It should rest the display option, make sure you have it connected to your TV during the operation.

astranagun · 2008-01-11, 17:10

The problem is that I have already tried that method

Aka · 2008-01-11, 20:25

So.......

Spoiler:

"Two Full Campaigns" <- One for Single Player while the other is for an Eight-Player Co-Op Campaign eh? I'm interested.

PS: You sure it's not your TV? Are you using a composite/component/S-Video connection?

Zoe · 2008-01-11, 23:44

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Originally Posted by astranagun

The problem is that I have already tried that method

You sure you held it down long enough?

Bonta Kun · 2008-01-12, 00:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aka

So.......

Spoiler:

"Two Full Campaigns" <- One for Single Player while the other is for an Eight-Player Co-Op Campaign eh? I'm interested.

PS: You sure it's not your TV? Are you using a composite/component/S-Video connection?

now thats what I'm talking about 60 player battles!!!! I love a big mash up like that!

and 8 player co-op sounds like it would be a ball too!

will be looking out for this now thats for sure, as CoD4 online is littered with problems these days........such a great game gong down hill all of a sudden

Jays · 2008-01-12, 03:05

Looks like I might have to pick up a copy of Resistance; even though at suck hard at console FPS games.

Sides · 2008-01-12, 11:48

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Originally Posted by astranagun

The problem is that I have already tried that method

Hmm, what happens is that using above method doesn't reset the output setting, it makes the ps3 to automatically detects the available output. I'm not sure if it reconised the setting via used/located pins on the multi av plug. What cable are you using? (composite, scart or s-video, official or 3rd party)
Maybe try it on another TV and see if it works.

SeijiSensei · 2008-01-14, 13:06

I've read a couple of pages of this discussion and am still confused about backward compatibility.

From reading descriptions of the PS3 on the Internet, it appears that neither of the versions currently available in the US are backwardly-compatible with the PS2. Yet some postings here suggest the $499 version with the larger hard drive is compatible, while the $399 version is not. AFAIK, only the original PS3's released in the US (like the one GHDpro has) are PS/2-compatible, and none of the contemporary ones are.

Is it possible to replace the hard drives? Certainly it makes no sense to me to spend $100 additional for another 40GB of hard drive space, when I could buy a 240 GB or larger drive for the same money and install it myself. Am I buying anything else beside overpriced storage for the $100?

Sides · 2008-01-14, 13:27

Yes the HDD is replaceable, just google for it. IIRC it is a standard 2.5" sata drive, but look out, some manufactures have a funny connection layout, that could cause some trouble. In the past sony used seagate drives, ps2, so i reckon if you stick to them you shouldn't have a problem.
Only the 20gb and 60gb NTSC models have the whole slim ps2 chipset, EE+GS chip, inside, the pal 60gb model has a striped down version and ps2 compatibility was down mainly via software emulation. Technically backward compatibility could be done via software emualtion, before the ps3 was announced sony did actually hired people from the homebrew scene iirc. Sooner or later playing ps2 games on the ps3 should be possible, either made availible by sony, or via booting linux, if sony and nvidia deceides to unlock the rsx resources on linux, but that could take ages.

JubeiYamazaki · 2008-01-15, 04:40

I own the US 80gig PS3 and I play PS2 games just fine, so far. They look grainy at times, but that's probably because of the upscaling. I haven't played them without the upscaling.

***GHDpro*** · 2008-01-15, 06:18

Original PS3 had both the PS2 CPU and GPU (videochip).

Current 80GB PS3 uses emulation for the (absent) PS2 CPU, but retains the PS2 GPU as it's supposedly nearly impossible to emulate in an acceptable way (it uses some optimizations which are unachievable using software emulation). Due to the absence of a real PS2 CPU, not all games are fully compatible.

Current 40GB PS3 lacks both PS2 CPU and GPU, making PS2 backwards compatibility impossible. Oddly the 40GB is still compatible with the PS1, as it's possible to fully emulate the PS1 using software (as software like PCSX on the PC has demonstrated for years).

Now I understand they removed the PS2 hardware to get the cost down, but I'd hope they one day bring the compatibility back, even if just in their highest end model (sorta "PS3 Elite"), just in case my current PS3 ever breaks down (though fortunately that has not happened to me with any of my PS hardware: 2x PS1, 2x PS2, PS3 and PSP... /me knocks on wood).

SeijiSensei · 2008-01-15, 08:17

Thanks to you all; that was very helpful.

We mostly play RPGs and the occasional platformer, so I'm guessing we'd have a decent chance of getting good results with the emulator. I'd be curious if someone has played Final Fantasy XII on the 80G model; that game seemed to push the PS2's engine to its limits. Emulation presumably has a hard time with lots of animated objects on the screen at once, no? So more static games should have fewer hiccups?

arias · 2008-01-15, 15:05

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Originally Posted by SeijiSensei

We mostly play RPGs and the occasional platformer, so I'm guessing we'd have a decent chance of getting good results with the emulator. I'd be curious if someone has played Final Fantasy XII on the 80G model; that game seemed to push the PS2's engine to its limits. Emulation presumably has a hard time with lots of animated objects on the screen at once, no? So more static games should have fewer hiccups?

Emulation performance doesn't necessarily work against the meter of animated objects on screen or whatever, it depends on how things are coded. Presumably the amount of animation on screen is directly linked to how much processing is done, and the emulation software could have a bottleneck that doesn't quite match up to having the original PS2 hardware in it.

In other news I bought myself a 40GB White PS3 with my hard-earned money so I've now joined the family

Played meself some Uncharted, Ratchet and Winning Eleven 2008 which is one of the most awful games, though addictive, ever. Will be keeping an eye on this thread from now on. Hopefully the 2008 release lineup for the PS3 is as spectacular as hoped and hyped.

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2008-01-11, 13:55	Link #1105
King Lycan User Title eaten by ravenous bunnies IT Support Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Zeon Age: 33	Yea Sony just got sued again Sony can't just catch a break, can it? According to Gamespot, a company named the Copper Innovations Group filed suit against Nintendo and Sony for a patent it holds on a "Hand Held Computer Input Apparatus and Method." The patent, filed in January 1996 references devices and their ability to communicate with hardware reference numbers. Sony's PS3 controllers utilize a similar technology. This isn't the first time Sony has had to face a lawsuit for its controller technology. Famously, Immersion successfully sued Sony for the use of rumble in the DualShock controller. Until the suit was settled, Sony had to remove rumble from their SIXAXIS controllers. Neither Sony nor Copper Innovations Group has commented about the situation. Will this end up being another headache for Sony? http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2008/01/11/...ngement-again/ __________________ Tumblr

2008-01-14, 13:06	Link #1115
SeijiSensei AS Oji-kun Join Date: Nov 2006 Age: 74	I've read a couple of pages of this discussion and am still confused about backward compatibility. From reading descriptions of the PS3 on the Internet, it appears that neither of the versions currently available in the US are backwardly-compatible with the PS2. Yet some postings here suggest the $499 version with the larger hard drive is compatible, while the $399 version is not. AFAIK, only the original PS3's released in the US (like the one GHDpro has) are PS/2-compatible, and none of the contemporary ones are. Is it possible to replace the hard drives? Certainly it makes no sense to me to spend $100 additional for another 40GB of hard drive space, when I could buy a 240 GB or larger drive for the same money and install it myself. Am I buying anything else beside overpriced storage for the $100? __________________ Taking Anime Seriously - Politics by the Numbers - Sports by the Numbers - MAL List - Avatars - Images

2008-01-15, 08:17	Link #1119
SeijiSensei AS Oji-kun Join Date: Nov 2006 Age: 74	Thanks to you all; that was very helpful. We mostly play RPGs and the occasional platformer, so I'm guessing we'd have a decent chance of getting good results with the emulator. I'd be curious if someone has played Final Fantasy XII on the 80G model; that game seemed to push the PS2's engine to its limits. Emulation presumably has a hard time with lots of animated objects on the screen at once, no? So more static games should have fewer hiccups? __________________ Taking Anime Seriously - Politics by the Numbers - Sports by the Numbers - MAL List - Avatars - Images

2007-12-16, 19:12	Link #1102
Papaya Sup Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Atlanta Age: 36	Guild Wars 2 would be perfect on the PS3 :O

2008-01-11, 14:31	Link #1106
Sides Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Edinburgh Age: 42	Those patent stuff is getting out of control, it is not only a console issue, the whole engineering and design industrie is pretty much suffering. Once you got something on the market you get sued, because someone holds a patent, without using it themselves. Nevertheless some other stuff that ps3 owners can get looking forward to. Some screens of Lost planet, dengeki Trust bell screens, dengenki Both games are ports/adaption from the 360 games, but will feature new content.

2008-01-11, 16:04	Link #1107
astranagun Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hinamizawa Age: 38	I have bought a used Ps3 but I can't see nothing on my tv (no hd)so I wanted to ask if I can reset it totally. Can someone help me me?

2008-01-11, 16:28	Link #1108
Sides Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Edinburgh Age: 42	Try powering on the PS3 via power button, and then hold it (power button) for 5 seconds. You should hear a beep tone, just release it then. It should rest the display option, make sure you have it connected to your TV during the operation.

2008-01-11, 17:10	Link #1109
astranagun Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hinamizawa Age: 38	The problem is that I have already tried that method

2008-01-11, 20:25	Link #1110
Aka Green Trees Artist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: 28°8′0″N 81°37′54″W	So....... Spoiler: "Two Full Campaigns" <- One for Single Player while the other is for an Eight-Player Co-Op Campaign eh? I'm interested. PS: You sure it's not your TV? Are you using a composite/component/S-Video connection?

2008-01-12, 03:05	Link #1113
Jays Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hockey Nation	Looks like I might have to pick up a copy of Resistance; even though at suck hard at console FPS games.

2008-01-14, 13:27	Link #1116
Sides Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Edinburgh Age: 42	Yes the HDD is replaceable, just google for it. IIRC it is a standard 2.5" sata drive, but look out, some manufactures have a funny connection layout, that could cause some trouble. In the past sony used seagate drives, ps2, so i reckon if you stick to them you shouldn't have a problem. Only the 20gb and 60gb NTSC models have the whole slim ps2 chipset, EE+GS chip, inside, the pal 60gb model has a striped down version and ps2 compatibility was down mainly via software emulation. Technically backward compatibility could be done via software emualtion, before the ps3 was announced sony did actually hired people from the homebrew scene iirc. Sooner or later playing ps2 games on the ps3 should be possible, either made availible by sony, or via booting linux, if sony and nvidia deceides to unlock the rsx resources on linux, but that could take ages.

2008-01-15, 04:40	Link #1117
JubeiYamazaki Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003	I own the US 80gig PS3 and I play PS2 games just fine, so far. They look grainy at times, but that's probably because of the upscaling. I haven't played them without the upscaling.

2008-01-15, 06:18	Link #1118
*GHDpro* Administrator Administrator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Netherlands Age: 45	Original PS3 had both the PS2 CPU and GPU (videochip). Current 80GB PS3 uses emulation for the (absent) PS2 CPU, but retains the PS2 GPU as it's supposedly nearly impossible to emulate in an acceptable way (it uses some optimizations which are unachievable using software emulation). Due to the absence of a real PS2 CPU, not all games are fully compatible. Current 40GB PS3 lacks both PS2 CPU and GPU, making PS2 backwards compatibility impossible. Oddly the 40GB is still compatible with the PS1, as it's possible to fully emulate the PS1 using software (as software like PCSX on the PC has demonstrated for years). Now I understand they removed the PS2 hardware to get the cost down, but I'd hope they one day bring the compatibility back, even if just in their highest end model (sorta "PS3 Elite"), just in case my current PS3 ever breaks down (though fortunately that has not happened to me with any of my PS hardware: 2x PS1, 2x PS2, PS3 and PSP... /me knocks on wood).