Danganronpa The Animation: General discussion thread

[AC-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Another never had anything resembling serious mysteries. Hyouka made extensive reference to them, but they were mostly used as a framework for developing the cast.
Danganronpa is, forgive the phrase, piss-easy if you have any sort of familiarity with classic mysteries, but it's not so much about that as it is about the overwhelming style the game exudes, something I don't think the anime is particularly good at.
Also, massive plot twists. Several of them, in fact.

It doesn't really try to evoke strong emotion (other than rage at that damn bear) if that's what you mean.

Yeah it is, which is why I'm not sure if i should talk about the vital information for a later case they conveniently left out.
Well they might be able to repair that by leaving another scene out too, but still...
Leaving those cluees out might be an effort to make it harder tough...
I have to see which ones were missing this time to judge that.

[serenade_beta]

Spoiler for ep2:

Mm, come to think of it, this is only one cour?
That would explain the speed.

Anyways, yeah, pink blood. *dead eyes*
And though they changed slightly, the ever-so-cheap OP and that cheap ED song. (The visual of the ED is fine though)

Anyways, kind of reminding me of Ace Attorney plus what, Survivor?
Except the viewer doesn't get all of the information needed to figure things out.
Anyways, I don't know what will happen next week, but I wouldn't be surprised if the true mastermind is one of the already dead. After all, that's also one of the templates of mystery stories. The person pretends to die to avoid suspicion while hiding in the shadows.

Anyways... pink blood...
...We-well, I guess if you drink enough strawberry juice, it becomes possible. And I guess it is more human than ink.

[Tyabann]

The pink blood is one of the best things about the game.

[Kirayuki]

Can't say I'm impressed with how they breeze through the investigation part. It really detract the viewer from figuring out how the incident happen, and some important conversations with Kyouko is skipped too.

[AC-Phoenix]

well lets see it positive...
We won't have to bear (sorry I had to) with all the esper and bear jokes....

[Klashikari]

I guess it was a good idea to play the game in a single go yesterday, considering the anime could dampen the game experience that much, although I might be as ruthless as Monokuma with the anime adaptation as result...

Episode 1 was okay, but episode 2 was rushed like crazy. While it made me chuckle they kept the interface visuals for the phases and clues, the harsh reality is that they used these as a way to bludgeon HARD the investigation as a whole.
Because of that, I wouldn't be surprised if anime only viewer would be puzzled by the clues Makoto's found thus far.

Frankly, I believe they should have set the series into 26 episodes with the structure thus far as follow:

Spoiler for Up to episode 2 content:

Episode 2:
-more introductions for the characters, as well as "free time" between Makoto and Sayaka.
-Sayaka and Makoto looking for a self defense weapon
-growing fear within the cast regarding what they have seen with the DVD
-End of the episode with Sayaka's corpse found by Makoto

Episode 3:
-Makoto being baffled to what has happened
-Monokuma explaining about the class trial
-Junko skewed to death by Gungnir system
-REAL investigation, with actual items being inspected
-End of the episode with people in the elevator

That would be the ideal without putting too much unecessary details whatsoever. But yeah, it is obvious they are aiming a 1 cour adaptation which is insane, as it will be squeezed like hell even with the current pacing...

Also, for those who have no idea what Makoto has found, here are more details about the clue, with anime order. I carefully wrote them to give hints within the game without any extrapolation whatsoever.
Clues related to Sayaka and Junko's deaths
Last Update: 14th July 2013

TL;DR…

Dangan Ronpa Ep2: Missing Clues (spoiler friendly)

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[AC-Phoenix]

Klashikari, would it be Ok to talk about other stuff that has been left out in a spoiler tag too, as long as it doesn't blutly reveal the mystery solution its tied to?

(I mainly think about 3 things from the prologue here atm, that were left out in the anime; 2 regarding characters and 1 regarding the electro IDs)
You need all 3 of them later on to solve mysteries, or understand them.

[hamazura]

Wew episode 2 is that bad?
This is 13 episode not 26? Flipping heck what can they do in 13 episode -_-
so the rule "game>anime = sure fail" is happening again
So no hope for this series, well just hoping blazblue wont go like this (although its mpossible...)

[Trogdor Jube]

During a radio show, the team stated that they would be putting most of the focus on the trials. So I assume the evidence will be explained during then.

[Klashikari]

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

Klashikari, would it be Ok to talk about other stuff that has been left out in a spoiler tag too, as long as it doesn't blutly reveal the mystery solution its tied to?

(I mainly think about 3 things from the prologue here atm, that were left out in the anime; 2 regarding characters and 1 regarding the electro IDs)
You need all 3 of them later on to solve mysteries, or understand them.

As long as the missing elements are properly spoiler tagged -without- any explanation that could lead people into prematury conclusion sure.
Just to be safe, I would like that only "general points" missed and case specific clue to be disclosed, nothing else.

In case you are unsure, please send me a PM so that we can discuss if the content is fine or too dangerous (after all, mentioning some point can be as effective as a spoiler altogether).

I also warn people: spoiler rules will be even more enforced due to the nature of the series. Any rambling about missing foreshadowing and the likes should be discussed in the game thread instead (depending of the activity rate I will create a game player anime thread if necessary).

[Randrak42]

Now I'm considering not watching the anime...the way it is rushing and not showing certain things is getting to me. I'll give it another two episodes or so but my expectations aren't that high now...

[Von Himmel]

Spoiler:

>that Junko's death

I know I'm expecting this, but it still hurts to see it ;_;

[marvelB]

Spoiler for Episode 2:

Well, while I won't deny that I was a bit disappointed at how some scenes were rushed (particularly the investigation phase), it wasn't really unexpected, so it doesn't impact me as hard. Still, I do like how they still stuck to a bunch of the game's unique details like the pink blood and the pixel art on the room nameplates. Another little detail I liked was Mondo covering Junko's corpse with his jacket. The rap intro was...... interesting, I guess. Though I will say that the anime staff sure are dicks to show Naegi hanging out with the dead girls in the end credits. I guess that means all future victims will be added to the credits as well, which will be even more depressing (or perhaps that should be "despair-inducing"? ).


Anyway, trial next episode! THAT is what I was really looking forward to the most!

Originally Posted by Klashikari

I also warn people: spoiler rules will be even more enforced due to the nature of the series. Any rambling about missing foreshadowing and the likes should be discussed in the game thread instead (depending of the activity rate I will create a game player anime thread if necessary).

I think that's a good idea, actually. The source material is as twisty as they come, so it's almost inevitable that spoiler talk will pop up, as unfortunate as that may be. I'm being careful to not let anything slip myself, of course, but I wouldn't mind a thread (aside the one for the games) where I can talk about the plot a little more freely.

[Nvis]

Originally Posted by Nvis

The moment my Sayaka dies, I quit watching this!!!

F U!!!!!!!!! I quit!

[Trogdor Jube]

I honestly think them underplaying the evidence was a good thing. This way the class trial gets an entire episode and information about the evidence can be elaborated on during the trial. It prevents taking up two episodes of characters repeating what we already know
Also I dunno about you guys but the investigation took me like 40 minutes to complete. So I don't see what other way they could condense it into an episode while still keeping

Spoiler:

Junko's death and the groups reactions

which I believe is more important then something that can be mentioned in the trial.

[com_gwp]

Originally Posted by Trogdor Jube

I honestly think them underplaying the evidence was a good thing. This way the class trial gets an entire episode and information about the evidence can be elaborated on during the trial. It prevents taking up two episodes of characters repeating what we already know
Also I dunno about you guys but the investigation took me like 40 minutes to complete. So I don't see what other way they could condense it into an episode while still keeping

Spoiler:

Junko's death and the groups reactions

which I believe is more important then something that can be mentioned in the trial.

Pretty much my thoughts as well. I'm not going to condemn this episode immediately for its blitz pace. I'll have to see it works together as a set with the class trials.

Spoiler for About Investigations and Class Trials:

Also worth noting is that the investigation and trials portions had a lot of repetition. Class trials commonly had debates that were already clarified or made implicitly obvious during the investigation. Blitzing through the investigation may take away a lot of that viewer involvement in the mystery, but would give the class trials a lot more excitement with the twists and turns in watching them piece the puzzle. Like I said, we'll have to see how they work as a set.

[Klashikari]

Originally Posted by Trogdor Jube

I honestly think them underplaying the evidence was a good thing. This way the class trial gets an entire episode and information about the evidence can be elaborated on during the trial. It prevents taking up two episodes of characters repeating what we already know
Also I dunno about you guys but the investigation took me like 40 minutes to complete. So I don't see what other way they could condense it into an episode while still keeping

Spoiler:

Junko's death and the groups reactions

which I believe is more important then something that can be mentioned in the trial.

I never expected the investigation to be in full length. However, the point with such kind of series is to be able to have your own theory and being able to push it in parallel with the characters when it's showtime.
Being presented evidences that could be found on the crime scene as late as during the trial is simply inane in term of resolution of a mystery.

Obviously, this is an anime series, not a mystery adventure game, thus the need of having everything at hand to solve the ongoing case isn't compulsory, as the story will go on regardless if you find out whodunnit or not.
However, not only it will downplay the enjoyment for some people, it also is very jarring in term of the narrative to have clues like that, especially that it would disconnect the audience with "how the characters have found A or B stuff", leaving them completely in the dark before the trial scenes.
In fine, it means the anime only audience shouldn't even bother with the mystery at all.

[Dirty_Harry]

Many clues will be like Deus Ex Machina in the School Trial.

[Shadow5YA]

Does anyone have a gif of Monokuma's sexy dance in the OP?

[com_gwp]

Originally Posted by Dirty_Harry

Many clues will be like Deus Ex Machina in the School Trial.

Maybe so, but it doesn't mean it can't be enjoyable. Phoenix Wright was arguably the same way, and enjoyable for the many twist and turns the new information always brought in its story. Though, I've no ideas what kind of mystery you called that, and that's if it can even be called a mystery in the first place.