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Old 2014-08-11, 23:23   Link #54341
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I think IS would have done better without the highschool setting. Just me. It would've been better if they had like a different forced communal training center for it then have the students go through a regular school life. Go more in depth with how they live. and how character interactions impact them.
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Old 2014-08-12, 00:05   Link #54342
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I think it would have been a number of smaller things happening within a year or two's time for the shift to have occurred as it did.



This, and a few other points that I know I'm missing.
Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't this quote used in the Sacred Twins remake? xD
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Old 2014-08-12, 00:12   Link #54343
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10 year still too short tho

20 years however is enough for entire new generation of young adult to appear, meaning only Chifuyu's generation who knew the world before social shift and kept being silent about it, while Ichika's generation being the one suffer the most.

Either way the 'men vs women' thing is completely retarded, a war of such scale will be apocalyptic enough that only the most fanatically insane misandrist will propose it.
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Old 2014-08-12, 00:20   Link #54344
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Nobody really thought about reigniting a world wide war that killed millions, not including soldiers and then BAM! Hitler.
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Old 2014-08-12, 00:21   Link #54345
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Millions =/= half of human race

And yet everyone suffered in World War II, and took decades to recover.

Oh and compared to WWII, World War I is tiny.
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Old 2014-08-12, 00:22   Link #54346
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Yeah but it was only 10 years and Chifuyu, the first pilot ever, is a staggering.....24 years old:/ So in ten years the entire world threw up their hands and went 'We're fine with this change'? Also I'm surprised it doesnmt require drugs or other such things to be able to pilot.

Lastly, the shift makes no sense because, as the novel states, males and upper class are still predominantly male? You know, the ones who have tight control of IS? Yeah, feminism my ass:/ I'm not complaining if the IS made some pig headed, that happens when arrogance is compounded with trends, but the whole 'Women can beat up men with no one saying a god damned word' bugs the fuck out of me. Even if you're a superstar people would get on your case if you suddenly did that. Hell by that logic since soldiers have the best guns and equipment does that make them immune to the law?
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Old 2014-08-12, 00:28   Link #54347
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Well there's your problem

Anyway, at this rate there's two way to do it
1. Play it exactly as novel... then portray how female also suffer from it.
2. Fuck canon, I.S. just another weapon, with only select few EVEN AMONGST WOMEN can do it.

And if you ask me, the second point is easier to write. I mean, entire class 1-1 were stupid enough to think Ichika as 'just another male'. That's the kind of dumb society we're talking here.

Also, Ichika need to totally flaunt his name at the bitch in the clothing shop. Because.
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Old 2014-08-12, 00:39   Link #54348
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What would flaunting his name do? Ichika's rare to be sure but as of right now it's not him that's important; its his genes. Ichika has no connection with any corporations nor does he have the direct backing of the Jap government - Hell they wanted to dissect him before he was enrolled. His 'status' amounts to squat.

What are the rest of the girls even doing at the academy? There's 367 cores and I can only assume that there's just as many if not more students than that. If that's the case where do they go once they graduate apart from becoming IS researchers if they're not reps? I fail to see how learning to pilot a sports machine (yeah right) can allow you to get a job in business or medicine.

Speaking of which, THAT really bugs me: WHY in the hell can males only get blue collar jobs!? This is retarded! The workforce would collapse in on itself if they suddenly fired and refused to hire talented people because they have XY chromosomes. This would also screw up college big time since it gimps the opportunities of people.
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Old 2014-08-12, 00:45   Link #54349
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What would flaunting his name do? Ichika's rare to be sure but as of right now it's not him that's important; its his genes. Ichika has no connection with any corporations nor does he have the direct backing of the Jap government - Hell they wanted to dissect him before he was enrolled. His 'status' amounts to squat.
Naturally, but there's a big difference between "I'm rare speciment" and "Me, a guy, can use I.S., you can't".

That said, its just my male ego talking. Ichika won't do something like that, ever.
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What are the rest of the girls even doing at the academy? There's 367 cores and I can only assume that there's just as many if not more students than that. If that's the case where do they go once they graduate apart from becoming IS researchers if they're not reps? I fail to see how learning to pilot a sports machine (yeah right) can allow you to get a job in business or medicine.
They're using ISA as stepping stone for elite college and career path

To be fair, I don't think the subject they cover are high school level.
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Speaking of which, THAT really bugs me: WHY in the hell can males only get blue collar jobs!? This is retarded! The workforce would collapse in on itself if they suddenly fired and refused to hire talented people because they have XY chromosomes. This would also screw up college big time since it gimps the opportunities of people.
Plot holes
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Old 2014-08-12, 00:47   Link #54350
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just curse Izuru and move on if it gets too clusterfucky.

I stand by my idea that someone just decided the femme domination political movement and the government just really wanted a few of them as pilots and gave them leeway. That or their star pilot wa one to begin with.
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Old 2014-08-12, 00:51   Link #54351
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I blame conspiracy

Phantom task can't possibly be simple "Terrorist organization"

Also, totally writing that CeciliaxIchika fic now
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Old 2014-08-12, 00:56   Link #54352
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How do they move onto 'elite colleges'? ISA doesn't seem to teach normal high school subjects like history, biology, normal mathematics, english language etc etc. Even if they get to college they're going to be pigeonholed into engineering courses since all they seem to be thought is machinery.

Right screw it, I'm ignoring the blue collar job thing. Also the 'can't be arrested' thing might be an exaggeration - I saw a (I think it was made by Izuru) doujin where during Charlotte and Ichika buying a swimsuit event Rin went Yandere and rather than bring her along and risk blowing cover Laura CALLED THE COPS on her and she couldn't explain away her brandishing her IS like a weapon in public and got dragged to the station. Funny as hell considering this really should happen considering how they blatantly abuse their IS on foreign soul.
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Old 2014-08-12, 01:05   Link #54353
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How do they move onto 'elite colleges'? ISA doesn't seem to teach normal high school subjects like history, biology, normal mathematics, english language etc etc. Even if they get to college they're going to be pigeonholed into engineering courses since all they seem to be thought is machinery.
I'm giving benefit of the doubt, we know that Chifuyu and Yamada the only one giving I.S. class, doesn't mean every teacher would teach the same subject again and again.
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Right screw it, I'm ignoring the blue collar job thing. Also the 'can't be arrested' thing might be an exaggeration - I saw a (I think it was made by Izuru) doujin where during Charlotte and Ichika buying a swimsuit event Rin went Yandere and rather than bring her along and risk blowing cover Laura CALLED THE COPS on her and she couldn't explain away her brandishing her IS like a weapon in public and got dragged to the station. Funny as hell considering this really should happen considering how they blatantly abuse their IS on foreign soil.
That's exactly how you should do it
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Old 2014-08-12, 01:38   Link #54354
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A random question: Who would win in a 1 on 1 battle between Chifuyu (using Kurezakura) and Roshuo?
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Old 2014-08-12, 01:46   Link #54355
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Roshuo, no question.

Basing this purely on how they both handled ICBMs in transit.
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Old 2014-08-12, 03:30   Link #54356
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Roshuo, no question.

Basing this purely on how they both handled ICBMs in transit.
So, it's like the White Knight against the White King?
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Old 2014-08-12, 04:21   Link #54357
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Chifuyu did a superman, catching the missiles as they fell.

Roshuo pulled a Neo and stopped them all simultaneously with a gesture.

Basically, a superhuman vs the superman
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Old 2014-08-12, 07:59   Link #54358
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Oh~ well said demino.

Anyway, someone wrote something like this in the 10 past pages 'I wonder if the pilots are taking drugs to pilot their IS' or something of the same kind.

The IS is connected to your conscience when you're piloting, right? So, it would be normal that at the beginning of an IS pilot's training, they practice slowly and during a short amount of time. With time passing, they increase the level of difficulties and etc. Of course, they need doctors which follow them to see if everything is alright, physically and mentally. I'm pretty sure you could become insane if an IS was connected with you for too long.

It could be the reason why all the pilots are so young.
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Old 2014-08-12, 08:29   Link #54359
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... Could anyone please explain to me the appeal of sex in literature?

Just found a pirated copy of "Fifty Shades of Grey". Gosh, it's terrible!
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Old 2014-08-12, 08:53   Link #54360
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mostly because it should reflect the passion and emotions involved in the act. That means you have to be emotionally invested in the events that eventually lead to it to relate. The alternative is just squicky YMMV porn.

Campione kiss scenes, I'm looking at you.
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