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Old 2014-01-16, 21:02   Link #1541
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Is it a facade? Maybe some yes, but all of it? Can you be so sure? And you're exactly right, Tsumugu doesn't bother, he doesn't try. That's what i'm annoyed about, he is no longer a pleasant character to interact with. This is the point i'm making, I don't like his character interactions, I don't like his character at the moment, he's just not trying.

His grandpa is in the hospital, but he doesn't visit him. He's not trying. Hikari, the first sea dweller to come out of hibernation is at a house he is familiar with for 2 days and yet he makes no attempt to even drop in to say hello, see how he's doing. He isn't trying. Isn't Tsumugu studying the sea and the sea village, researching the hibernation etc? And yet he makes no attempt to get information out of Hikari for his work? He isn't trying.

Now you can see why I feel like his character deserves it. He isn't trying.
He's a man with a lot on his shoulders right now while acting as the head of the household since his gramps is still sick.

This guy is usually calm and cool, but he's holding back a lot. Slamming that cup spoke volumes.

Tsugumu doesn't want to be a scumbag. If he was, he would have taken advantage of Chisaki's state during these past 5 years.

Instead, he's a researcher who wants to know what happen to his friends and I would say a chunk of that reason is to make Chisaki happy. He's a good guy and he couldn't stand hearing her cry when she first moved in after losing everyone she knew. He got his resolve once he saw how hysterical she got over his gramp's condition. He explained his plans on the next scene.

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Hikari's strong enough to accept things as they are. This doesn't mean Chisaki is suddenly capable of moving on or anything. You're confusing his character development with hers. She's still stuck in the past and Hikari accepting her doesn't change that, especially since his rational is that she really hasn't changed, which is not true. She changed, and she has to face that reality. She can't hid behind Hikari's kindness and strength.
Right. She needs to change and start moving on her own.

Chisaki has to understand that there's always been a rock/red belly sea slug right beside her.

As for Hikari, I feel for him.

It's like somebody waking up from a coma for x amount of years and has to readjust to his/her new surroundings.

He held back his frustration/pain from his family since he wanted to act strong, but vented his problems to his boy. Pretty accurate stuff.
Miuna helped him in her own way by raising her own flag.

Kancho = Butterflies

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Old 2014-01-16, 21:28   Link #1542
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I think they meant to show that contrast between Tsumugu and Hikari. Hikari has always been the active type, can't sit still without doing something for somebody even when everybody else feels helpless. Tsumugu, on the other hand, does things by way of silent gestures. He made a pond for the sea kids at the beginning of the story. He offered advise when asked. He does things quietly. Tsumugu's the type who gives others' space, doesn't invade others' space, and will react more when sought out, as opposed to Hikari who doesn't have qualms taking the initiative. And one of the times that Tsumugu did take the initiative and offered to be Chisaki's red-bellied sea slug again, it backfired on him, and Chisaki left upset.

Doesn't mean that Tsumugu's way of caring/comforting is less than Hikari's. Well, to each his own.

I do think that Tsumugu, is like Chisaki in a way. He's being cautious/wary about tipping the balance/changing the status quo. It took a while for Chisaki to return her usual cheerful and smiling face, but even that was a front, because Chisaki would still have this sad expression at times. He knew that Chisaki was missing her sea friends and her underwater home. What else could he do? He couldn't bring back the sleeping seafolks, which is impossible. Tsumugu studying oceanography was his silent way of helping Chisaki and the seafolks. It's not that Tsumugu isn't bothering to do anything. He is just subtle.
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Old 2014-01-16, 21:56   Link #1543
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Kind of sad that Kaname was mentioned only once in the entire episode and that was from his best friend.

True suffering, .
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Old 2014-01-16, 22:23   Link #1544
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Kind of sad that Kaname was mentioned only once in the entire episode and that was from his best friend.

True suffering, .
Who's that? I seem to recall hearing the name, but ... nah, he must not be an important character.
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Old 2014-01-16, 22:25   Link #1545
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Kaname is the Mamoru (Shin Sekai Yori) of this anime .
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Old 2014-01-16, 22:42   Link #1546
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Hey, if the level of suffering Kaname experiences when he returns manages to tone down that overly precocious personality of his, that's a change for the better. This is a melodrama involving the main cast. So everyone should be sucked into the vortex. There were signs of his facade slipping near the end of the 1st cour, but that's not enough to satiate Okada.
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Old 2014-01-16, 23:05   Link #1547
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Really enjoyed this episode. I espically loved the interactions with Chisaki and Tsumugu. Since Hikari has shown up, hopefully Chisaki can leave her romantic feelings about him behind and move on. I'm interested to see see how Tsumugu handles all of this too

For whatever reason Miyu's feelings don't quite reach me. Perhaps because I only saw her feelings a childish crush and nothing more. I'm interested to see how Hikari will handle her feelings. Will he still hold hope for Manaka or move on with Miyu? I hope Manaka returns.

Kaname? Kaname who?
Hope he shows up soon too.


What? Kaname? Who is that XD
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Old 2014-01-16, 23:12   Link #1548
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What? Kaname? Who is that XD
Kaname is the name of a cool character in Samurai Flamenco. Kaname is also the family name of the titular character in Madoka Magica.

...I'm not familiar with any Kaname in this show however.
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Old 2014-01-16, 23:14   Link #1549
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Kaname? Kaname who?
Hope he shows up soon too.


What? Kaname? Who is that XD
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Who's that? I seem to recall hearing the name, but ... nah, he must not be an important character.
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Hey, if the level of suffering Kaname experiences when he returns manages to tone down that overly precocious personality of his, that's a change for the better. This is a melodrama involving the main cast. So everyone should be sucked into the vortex. There were signs of his facade slipping near the end of the 1st cour, but that's not enough to satiate Okada.
Karma will come for you guys. Is Okada and your talk reminds me a lot of Hanasaku's talk about OhanaxTohru so far.

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Kaname is the Mamoru (Shin Sekai Yori) of this anime .
Who ended Mamoru with in that series?
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Old 2014-01-16, 23:23   Link #1550
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Kaname? Kaname who?
Hope he shows up soon too.

What? Kaname? Who is that XD


I think I found him!!!

Seriously though, he might show up next episode.

I don't think he'll adapt as quick since he doesn't have Hikari's support team.

Who knows? For all we know, maybe he's already on the surface.
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Old 2014-01-16, 23:41   Link #1551
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Kaname is the name of a cool character in Samurai Flamenco. Kaname is also the family name of the titular character in Madoka Magica.

...I'm not familiar with any Kaname in this show however.
Oh so true forgot about those ones! There is still hope yet!

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I think I found him!!!

Seriously though, he might show up next episode.

I don't think he'll adapt as quick since he doesn't have Hikari's support team.

Who knows? For all we know, maybe he's already on the surface.
Oh god that is fantastic! I got some Another vibes too from that image. Oh I never thought that he might be out there walking around, good thinking!
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Old 2014-01-17, 01:36   Link #1552
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Kind of sad that Kaname was mentioned only once in the entire episode and that was from his best friend.

True suffering, .
I was actually waiting for Chisaki to talk about what happened during the ofunehiki. I mean holy shit man, you just witnessed one of your friends fall off the boat and get crushed by a huge ass pillar. Not to mention this said friend is in love you. Never-mind the fact you could have probably helped him get back if you weren't so hung on Tsumugu.

I just find it strange that people just assumed that the Shioshishio kids easily hibernated afterwards. We're talking about whirlpools, the seagod and all that magical crazy stuff man. They should be glad that they're still alive, but it's like 'oh hey you're back. You should totally see the 5 years worth of changes while you were asleep.' I especially expected Akari to explain things so Hikari wouldn't be overwhelmed but alas, she just let him be and expected him to deal with everything. Good thing Hikari is already mature enough and headstrong to absorb these changes.

Miuna's crush on Hikari can't be more obvious and we're just starting! I think even Akari is starting to notice her fixation on Hikari.
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Old 2014-01-17, 02:05   Link #1553
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Woaah... how does this Kaname bullying started? You guys sure have fun being a Sadist Give a rest to him. He just thrown away from the ship (literally) the other day.

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**snip**

Miuna's crush on Hikari can't be more obvious and we're just starting! I think even Akari is starting to notice her fixation on Hikari.
Let's hear the preview of next episode:

Hikari: I'm sakishima, who's repeating this class. Please call me Senpai and respect me.
Miuna: I'm going to hold your hand so you don't wander off.
Sayu: Must be nice! The person you like woke up!

Looks like it'll become more obvious next episode with Hikari going to the same class as Miuna. Way to go Miuna. First kiss, check. Raising Flag, check. Next gonna be holding hand for sure

Oh, and it seems that we'll have Sayu x Miuna conflict.
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Old 2014-01-17, 02:13   Link #1554
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HHNNNGGG Miuna just too cute!
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Old 2014-01-17, 02:20   Link #1555
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Looks like it'll become more obvious next episode with Hikari going to the same class as Miuna. Way to go Miuna. First kiss, check. Raising Flag, check. Next gonna be holding hand for sure
Can't wait to see Minegoshi get friendzoned even harder than he already is

And speaking of the friendzone, it's pretty much a guarantee that Kaname will return next ep. Maybe he'll walk in on Chisaki getting kancho'd by Akira again
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Old 2014-01-17, 02:44   Link #1556
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Can't wait to see Minegoshi get friendzoned even harder than he already is

And speaking of the friendzone, it's pretty much a guarantee that Kaname will return next ep. Maybe he'll walk in on Chisaki getting kancho'd by Akira again

Spoiler for worst case scenario:

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Old 2014-01-17, 04:07   Link #1557
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As Hikari's no one cheerleader from the beginning I am glad to see him finally get the love he deserves on this thread.
People were calling him a sexist bully after the first two episodes, and look at the reactions now.
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Kind of sad that Kaname was mentioned only once in the entire episode and that was from his best friend.

True suffering, .
At this point doesn't the scientist have more lines than Kaname did in the entire first cour?
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Old 2014-01-17, 04:24   Link #1558
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if Chisaki and Tsumugu happen at the end so why didnt happen now after 5 years any one well forget their frist crush or love after 1 year or 2 but after 5 years and nothing then happen it well be stupid
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Old 2014-01-17, 04:33   Link #1559
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Prof and Tsumugu seems to be talking about something important
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Old 2014-01-17, 04:38   Link #1560
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that is, some people think that hikari in 1 hour fell in love with Chisaki?
in this whole story and the characters of Miuna tsugumu what about them?

kaname where you will live?
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