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SQA · 2013-06-21, 04:43

It took a while (12 episodes!), but I think I finally got the proper read on Maou, and the Demons in general.

Maou is, in D&D parlance, very Lawful Neutral. Or, in other setups, he's all about Order, rather than Chaos. This very much extends to the Demons as well.

The end result is that they're all about "Rational Self-Interest" and logic, but with very little emotion put into their thinking. Not that, especially in human form, they completely lack emotions, but that they're rarely ever used for decision making. It explains Maou's sudden take to Japan and the rules systems.

So, to humans, the Demons would come across as "inhuman" (ignoring the fact they look very different). To the Demons, the humans make lots of decisions that don't serve any purpose. Much like Maou, Ashiya & Lucifer eating the holy-power infused food because it was there to eat and saved them money. (Ashiya obviously not getting the good end of that choice.)

Given this context, it also gives an "out" for the lack of viewpoint corruption that any of the Demons have shown. Suzano is shown to be wracked with guilt for what she did in propping up a pretty horrible regime. Even if somewhat limited, that type of action always has a cost on a person's emotional and mental states. The corruption is far, far worse for someone with dictatorial powers. There are plenty of fairly recent examples of what dictators will go through to hold onto power and the expectation that they'll keep it. Maou & Ashiya have never shown any of that, which was always the most fantastical aspect to the series. It's how Maou can show a Will to Power yet never actually come across as a megalomaniac.

All told, a wonderful episode and I'm glad to finally get a better insight into Maou. Even if it keeps crushing Chiho's feelings. (In hilarious ways)

thundrakkon · 2013-06-21, 05:03

Did we or are we going to get an explanation concerning the purple magic at MgRonald's after Maou brought the bamboo there? Was it James' doing, Maou leaking magic, or Chi-chan breaking a spell?

Lantern · 2013-06-21, 05:52

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Originally Posted by thundrakkon

Did we or are we going to get an explanation concerning the purple magic at MgRonald's after Maou brought the bamboo there? Was it James' doing, Maou leaking magic, or Chi-chan breaking a spell?

It was Maou's doing, however as noted by Suzuno, it was subconscious and probably an accident.

JokerD · 2013-06-21, 06:14

Did Maou just turn the broom brush into a demon sword and hit Jame with it?

Breimoon · 2013-06-21, 07:04

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Originally Posted by JokerD

Did Maou just turn the broom brush into a demon sword and hit Jame with it?

your avatar shows my reaction at that xD. Aniway went to see spoilers from LN section and found out some interesting things. Let's hope they make a second season!!

Pacify · 2013-06-21, 08:32

Enjoyable episode, poor Chi-chan can't make any headway

not sure what sort of ending next episode is going to be

DragoonKain3 · 2013-06-21, 09:02

Maou princess carrying the Hero? HHHNNNNGGGG

n120cky · 2013-06-21, 09:42

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Originally Posted by DragoonKain3

Maou princess carrying the Hero? HHHNNNNGGGG

this is reference to the first princess carrying, but now Emi is on submission mode

, after all sometime it's good to she her soft side . . .

ookamigirl · 2013-06-21, 10:29

Ashiya was totally guilt tripping himself.
It was pretty LOL to watch, but also pathetic.
Maou sure is a responsible one.
Guess the human world transformed him into a normal person.
Olba is the only one that I can't stand in this anime.
Looks like Olba did something that evens the odds.
Sariel was definitely the biggest loser of this episode.
Awesome episode!!

Sumeragi · 2013-06-21, 10:34

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Mentar · 2013-06-21, 11:01

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Originally Posted by n120cky

this is reference to the first princess carrying, but now Emi is on submission mode

, after all sometime it's good to she her soft side . . .

You HAVE seen Maou's face in the next scene, right? Especially his right cheek? Not my idea of "submission"

Though I guess it's progress from being kneed in the face, and Emi's blush was just hnnnnnnggg indeed.

Lantern · 2013-06-21, 11:32

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Originally Posted by Mentar

You HAVE seen Maou's face in the next scene, right? Especially his right cheek? Not my idea of "submission"

Well... Emi probably wouldn't have slapped him had he not decided to comment on her open-shirt

Anime299 · 2013-06-21, 11:52

Maou seems ridiculously over-powered, but I guess the fear of seeing a moon a thousand time larger would generate enough fear to fuel his needs. Still wondering how they will explain Maou's actions back home, and maybe that will happen next episode, but with all this generic anime pap going on, this was also the biggest cliff-hanger of the anime season, since...

We don't know what happened back at MgRonalds and whether Maou will get in trouble or lose his job!!

~~mangatron~~ · 2013-06-21, 12:30

Yoko Hikasa, will you marry me?

she does Emi so good, I had gotten used to her voicing acceptedly endowed girls, to hear her flustered over her flat COUGH I mean ample boobs, I'm sorry, I can't help but laugh

Don't worry Emi! With great flatness comes great massagUAGH *mangatron receives a holy kick to his crotch*

FREE avatars! Emi edition

(not much since it's late, and some details were lost when crushed to 100x100)

the best couple of the series:

look at them, so much in common

poor Chi-chan, friendzoned to the max. Can't get any worse than co-workers

I gotta say I found James' torture of her distasteful. Revolting, that bastard clearly doesn't know... that the only torture I find acceptable of girls is "the tickle monster". Ayup, ain't no girl can withstand the tickle monster, not only is it non-invasive, but she becomes very happy and spills the beans, and her revenge meter will be full to the max making her want to so dominate me as payback.....

Ahem, my delusions aside, I like Suzuno's hammer

I don't know why I'm attracted to hammer girls, maybe it's because I can't help but wonder what's it like to be hit by it, to get struck by it's lovely blunt side...

by the way, James is so wrong. She isn't a reaper, she's a super cute sexy sidetail reaper, get your facts straight, man

AHEM You all want to know my favorite part this ep? When Emi and Chi-chan were chewing out James with all sorts of namecalling, ah to be verbally abused by two lovelies, I played that scened again and again, ...and again

I wanted to see Emi slap Maou, one hand covering her boobies, the other hand meets my cheek faster than a speeding bullet....

ReaperxKingx · 2013-06-21, 13:01

I think by now we solve the mystery in episode 7 when Maou couldn't carry a box of Udon while Suzuno had no problems whatsoever.

Polarpew · 2013-06-21, 13:36

Maou: so badass, he saves his day without having to put his pants on

Mahou · 2013-06-21, 14:19

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Originally Posted by mangatron

look at them, so much in common

poor Chi-chan, friendzoned to the max. Can't get any worse than co-workers

X_X This sentence is to a "romance" fanboy and Chi-chan fan like being woken up from a nightmare by a kick in the groin

.

Now, to avoid misunderstanding I am aware that my vivid romance dream is *not* the focus nor the main genre of the show and I'm perfectly fine with it

. But, after Chi-chan's confession AND Maou's realization that he had to seriously face this outcome after her straight confession, events of "nothing" in this regard were a bit stumbling *lol*.

Myssa Rei · 2013-06-21, 14:21

Oh, you'll see Maou's lack of interest in romance actually has a point, if you remember Ashiya's metaphor a few episodes ago.

ImperialE · 2013-06-21, 15:17

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Originally Posted by Myssa Rei

Oh, you'll see Maou's lack of interest in romance actually has a point, if you remember Ashiya's metaphor a few episodes ago.

er...which one xD

Solafighter · 2013-06-21, 15:44

The nurse didn't give a damn about the unconscious police officer.

2013-06-21, 05:03	Link #2102
thundrakkon Anime-Only Viewer Graphic Designer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: USA	Did we or are we going to get an explanation concerning the purple magic at MgRonald's after Maou brought the bamboo there? Was it James' doing, Maou leaking magic, or Chi-chan breaking a spell? __________________

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DragoonKain3 Osana-Najimi Shipper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mt. Ordeals	Maou princess carrying the Hero? HHHNNNNGGGG __________________ Yes its YOU childhood friend - source of BERZERKER RAGE since forever Childhood Friend couple STATISTICS(spoilers abound though)

2013-06-21, 10:29	Link #2109
ookamigirl Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	Ashiya was totally guilt tripping himself. It was pretty LOL to watch, but also pathetic. Maou sure is a responsible one. Guess the human world transformed him into a normal person. Olba is the only one that I can't stand in this anime. Looks like Olba did something that evens the odds. Sariel was definitely the biggest loser of this episode. Awesome episode!! __________________ My Blog --> ookami

2013-06-21, 12:30	Link #2114
~~mangatron~~ worshipping the pantyhose Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Manila, Philippines	Episode 12 Yoko Hikasa, will you marry me? she does Emi so good, I had gotten used to her voicing acceptedly endowed girls, to hear her flustered over her flat COUGH I mean ample boobs, I'm sorry, I can't help but laugh Don't worry Emi! With great flatness comes great massagUAGH mangatron receives a holy kick to his crotch FREE avatars! Emi edition (not much since it's late, and some details were lost when crushed to 100x100) the best couple of the series: look at them, so much in common poor Chi-chan, friendzoned to the max. Can't get any worse than co-workers I gotta say I found James' torture of her distasteful. Revolting, that bastard clearly doesn't know... that the only torture I find acceptable of girls is "the tickle monster". Ayup, ain't no girl can withstand the tickle monster, not only is it non-invasive, but she becomes very happy and spills the beans, and her revenge meter will be full to the max making her want to so dominate me as payback..... Ahem, my delusions aside, I like Suzuno's hammer I don't know why I'm attracted to hammer girls, maybe it's because I can't help but wonder what's it like to be hit by it, to get struck by it's lovely blunt side... by the way, James is so wrong. She isn't a reaper, she's a super cute sexy sidetail reaper, get your facts straight, man AHEM You all want to know my favorite part this ep? When Emi and Chi-chan were chewing out James with all sorts of namecalling, ah to be verbally abused by two lovelies, I played that scened again and again, ...and again I wanted to see Emi slap Maou, one hand covering her boobies, the other hand meets my cheek faster than a speeding bullet....

2013-06-21, 13:36	Link #2116
Polarpew Bash'a no falor talah Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New York USA Age: 33	Maou: so badass, he saves his day without having to put his pants on __________________ Epicness

2013-06-21, 04:43	Link #2101
SQA Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012	It took a while (12 episodes!), but I think I finally got the proper read on Maou, and the Demons in general. Maou is, in D&D parlance, very Lawful Neutral. Or, in other setups, he's all about Order, rather than Chaos. This very much extends to the Demons as well. The end result is that they're all about "Rational Self-Interest" and logic, but with very little emotion put into their thinking. Not that, especially in human form, they completely lack emotions, but that they're rarely ever used for decision making. It explains Maou's sudden take to Japan and the rules systems. So, to humans, the Demons would come across as "inhuman" (ignoring the fact they look very different). To the Demons, the humans make lots of decisions that don't serve any purpose. Much like Maou, Ashiya & Lucifer eating the holy-power infused food because it was there to eat and saved them money. (Ashiya obviously not getting the good end of that choice.) Given this context, it also gives an "out" for the lack of viewpoint corruption that any of the Demons have shown. Suzano is shown to be wracked with guilt for what she did in propping up a pretty horrible regime. Even if somewhat limited, that type of action always has a cost on a person's emotional and mental states. The corruption is far, far worse for someone with dictatorial powers. There are plenty of fairly recent examples of what dictators will go through to hold onto power and the expectation that they'll keep it. Maou & Ashiya have never shown any of that, which was always the most fantastical aspect to the series. It's how Maou can show a Will to Power yet never actually come across as a megalomaniac. All told, a wonderful episode and I'm glad to finally get a better insight into Maou. Even if it keeps crushing Chiho's feelings. (In hilarious ways)

2013-06-21, 06:14	Link #2104
JokerD Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003	Did Maou just turn the broom brush into a demon sword and hit Jame with it?

2013-06-21, 08:32	Link #2106
Pacify Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Aussie Age: 37	Enjoyable episode, poor Chi-chan can't make any headway not sure what sort of ending next episode is going to be

2013-06-21, 10:34	Link #2110
Sumeragi Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Dai Korai Teikoku	Images Jade Bell Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload?

2013-06-21, 11:52	Link #2113
Anime299 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: NW United States	Maou seems ridiculously over-powered, but I guess the fear of seeing a moon a thousand time larger would generate enough fear to fuel his needs. Still wondering how they will explain Maou's actions back home, and maybe that will happen next episode, but with all this generic anime pap going on, this was also the biggest cliff-hanger of the anime season, since... We don't know what happened back at MgRonalds and whether Maou will get in trouble or lose his job!!

2013-06-21, 13:01	Link #2115
ReaperxKingx Emperor of the Expected Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Florida	I think by now we solve the mystery in episode 7 when Maou couldn't carry a box of Udon while Suzuno had no problems whatsoever.

2013-06-21, 14:21	Link #2118
Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	Oh, you'll see Maou's lack of interest in romance actually has a point, if you remember Ashiya's metaphor a few episodes ago. __________________

2013-06-21, 15:44	Link #2120
Solafighter Hige Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: God only knows	The nurse didn't give a damn about the unconscious police officer. __________________