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Old 2018-09-30, 19:38   Link #2121
Kuroageha
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I'm using a quite peculiar comp based on Europa weapons.
2 harps + 1 staff, MC, Altair, Pholia and Vajra and Bonito. there won't be a turn you don't ougi at least twice which in turn enables Vajra to keep ougi chains.
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Old 2018-09-30, 23:00   Link #2122
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my water build is largely just magna though, Europa + 4 dagger + 1 xeno + Bahamut + some normal weapon
i tried to farm for the harp but they seem to just won't drop
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Old 2018-09-30, 23:27   Link #2123
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You can get enough to MLB after spending 800 berries during magnafest.
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Old 2018-09-30, 23:31   Link #2124
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You can get enough to MLB after spending 800 berries during magnafest.
hmmmm isn't the harp is blue & red chest exclusive ????
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Old 2018-10-01, 06:42   Link #2125
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Yes, all M2 weapons are exclusive to those chests, so it is the usual issue with being in the top 6 and have some luck. As a matter of fact, I spent 400 berries joining Europa raids during a magfest and got 0 weapons (not even crap like staves from her), whereas I got like 3 axes on Alexiel after 200 berries or something.

Berries average isn't exactly a good indicator considering the drop rate is pretty bad to begin with and blue chest isn't always obtained. Adding the gaijin ping and other things like that and you can't really expect a decent average of weapon drops compared to magna. That and the fact you might actually drop everything except that one weapon you want.
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Old 2018-10-01, 18:39   Link #2126
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hmmmm isn't the harp is blue & red chest exclusive ????
Yes, mine mostly came from blue since getting to top 3 is hard when joining pub the best choice is to do the highest honours burst the moment you join and move on to the next raid to repeat that pattern.

Btw the staff IS GOOD for Kengo and 1TK settings. It's an underrated weapon like Alex dagger which still can be slotted in grid and give a decent curve. Only weapon that it's truly bad is Shiva spear.
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Old 2018-10-01, 19:09   Link #2127
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So what exactly is wrong with the shiva spear? That it gives TA but not DA too?
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Old 2018-10-01, 20:09   Link #2128
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Spear low stats, medium boost to attack.
The boost is way too small, 2.5%. You will have to slot at least 3-4 spears to start feeling that boost.
Compared to that Trium gives both DA and TA.
Small is 3.5% at SL15 while big boost 7% while having big boost to attack with just 1 weapon.

So if you want to slot a spear you have to remove a weapon being ancient Eckes(enmity, attack and critical, 3 good kills in 1 weapon) which despite being MLB offers a bigger power and HP to the party survival, the DATA Xeno axe offers is 30% on ougi which makes said spear boost worthless. Slot in a Atma/ultima/omega weapon and you get a flat 20% data to the benefited members of the party.

And as trivia, a Shiva spear grid is on the #wall of shame of discord.
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Old 2018-10-02, 02:57   Link #2129
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Btw the staff IS GOOD for Kengo and 1TK settings. It's an underrated weapon like Alex dagger which still can be slotted in grid and give a decent curve. Only weapon that it's truly bad is Shiva spear.
They can be slotted, but they are arguably too situational and not exactly worth the mats to upcap them. Both also suffer from rather low stats too.
I'd also argue that Metatron's gauntlets are way worse than Shiva spear. Avatar's axe is quite subpar too considering both skills are small.
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Old 2018-10-02, 10:36   Link #2130
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Those two can be judged to be trash right away. Shiva spears however needed Guinea pigs.
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Old 2018-10-07, 11:03   Link #2131
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Shiva spears however needed Guinea pigs.
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Old 2018-10-13, 05:12   Link #2132
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Got Quatre uncapped.
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Old 2018-10-15, 01:04   Link #2133
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This, this is not Precure.
This is gorilla!
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Old 2018-10-15, 09:09   Link #2134
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Precure has always been like this. Good time to watch a multi verse movie of them.
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Old 2018-10-15, 10:58   Link #2135
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I mean their in game design. It is Bilibili that has Ougi weakness fixed.
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Old 2018-10-16, 01:19   Link #2136
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Finally got to flb Moon without touching any arcapoints that are obviously meant to buy Monika.
Now to the third summon.
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Old 2018-10-17, 00:39   Link #2137
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Europa looks kinda trashy for the water meta.

I guess an alternate version of Summer Diantha for the magna players? Or use them all together?
At least there is Katrina to trigger her passive.

But Grey, GREEEEYYYY! I WAAAAANT!! She is such a good assist to dark Omega Fist team! And her stamina game is like a gospel to those who wants to quit the enmity grid!
6 has cap break, Azazel has cap break, now Lady Grey adds even more cap break! Combine with Avatar Staff and Anubis Axe! The ougi damage is soooo amazing!!!
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Old 2018-10-17, 15:58   Link #2138
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Well yeah Europa is quite overrated and magna/primal water are currently ougi meta so expect her score value to drop later on.

Likewise Gray is really good, easy management, amazing buffs, isn't yet another selfish attacker and enables ougi meta even more.

Some people should be more objective when rating instead of using their D to think for them .
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