Saijaku muhai no Bahamut

[Mirable]

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

Well he manipulated memories to make people think he was part of the royal family so that is not entirely true. Its all about what would forward his plans whether to fix things like you said or manipulate events as necessary. His interest in Lux just makes me feel there is more to Lux which with the info on aerils past makes me think maybe it could be Lux as well. Perhaps Fugil saw himself in Lux because of his friendship with the more idealistic aeril and brought him to the future like the princesses did

Did he? Lux's father is clearly aware that Fugil is not his son but the benefactor who saved their ancestor (the family of traitors) in the past.

[Bugfragged]

Is it possible that the emperor went through Baptism?

[Mirable]

^I doubt it and we will never know since he's dead.

[digitalak27]

Did the manga end?

[Roxanne]

Originally Posted by digitalak27

Did the manga end?

yeah but the LN continues

[Doe, John]

I've been rereading past volumes and had an idea for a fanfic.

In Volume 12, Lisha talks about how she created her Over Unit upgrades during her fight against the Dragon Marauders leaders. It's only a few paragraphs, but for some reason it stuck in my head and I wanted to try fleshing it out. There's not a lot of fanfics for this series right now.

Below is a preview.

Spoiler:

In the fourth Drag-Ride hangar, Lisha stretched her arms and yawned.

Things had been pretty hectic lately. Thanks to a combination of fighting, Drag-Ride maintenance, and schoolwork, she was averaging four hours of sleep a night. But when you were the Crown Princess of the New Kingdom Atismata, such a workload was expected.

Lisha slapped her cheeks to fully wake herself. She picked up a banana and munched on it as she walked around the hangar.

Let’s see… My own Tiamat is fine, just needs some portions of the armour replaced… Lux’s Bahamut is mostly fine too… Yoruka’s Yato no Kami… is not something I can fix any time soon, the damage is too extensive… I’ll need to order more parts as well…

As she looked over the various Drag-Rides, Lisha remembered all of the events that had happened lately.

Ever since that bunch calling themselves ‘Lords’ showed up, it’s been one thing after another. Sacred Eclipse, a monster that can supposedly destroy the world… and from what I’ve seen of it, that’s definitely possible. Lux and the airheaded girl go on a mission to the Heiburg Republic, a country that has been a threat ever since our kingdom was founded, and then Heiburg’s dictator got toppled and the country’s now being reformed. Then it turns out that we’ve been holding on to a Grand Force of all things, and have to hide it, only for Singlen and the Dragon Marauders and Sacred Eclipse to show up, and then Soffice turns out to be the traitor and… I still can’t believe that all this has happened in the past year.

Lisha sighed. She went to her desk and wrote up a list of the parts that she’d need to order. Then she went to the bathroom to make herself presentable. She took off her grease-stained lab coat, washed her face, and tied up her hair in its usual side tail style.

And everyone’s getting incredibly strong, too. Nowadays, it feels like every person in the battlefield has a Divine Drag-Ride and is a master at using it, even common criminals like the Dragon Marauders. Ragnarok used to be legendary monsters that almost nobody knew about, but now they pop up all the time and we can now kill them reliably, if not easily. Even if I just look at the people around me: Lux and Yoruka can bring out the full power of their Drag-Rides with Over Limit; Krulcifer can use Full Connect and move her Drag-Ride in ways that I didn’t realise were possible before; the airhead girl has crazy strength because of her parasite, and Celis is just good all-round.

Lisha looked down at her hands. She was a princess and an elite Drag-Knight, practically as high in the social hierarchy as it was possible to be… and right now, she felt weak.

Compared to them, what do I have? I can fix up Drag-Rides, alright, but I’ve never really been able to improve on them. I did make the Chimeratech Wyvern, but trying to make anything beyond that has just been impossible. The technology in Drag-Rides is ridiculously complex – to have any chance of making something better, I’d need a lot more information and a lot more parts. But how would I get hold of those things?

Sighing again, Lisha left the bathroom and headed for the exit of the hangar. But while she was walking towards the dining hall for breakfast, a new thought flashed across her mind.

Wait… I’ve thought of this issue before and wasn’t able to solve it… but things are different now. I was a misanthrope before, but now I actually have… well, friends. And if there’s one thing I’ve learned lately, it’s that you don’t have to try and solve everything by yourself.

Lisha thought of the people she should talk to and the questions she should ask. Once that was done, she set off.

[darkofficer]

Cause fanfics for a harem series Mostley delete the mc

[whiteshadow]

Originally Posted by Doe, John

I've been rereading past volumes and had an idea for a fanfic.

In Volume 12, Lisha talks about how she created her Over Unit upgrades during her fight against the Dragon Marauders leaders. It's only a few paragraphs, but for some reason it stuck in my head and I wanted to try fleshing it out. There's not a lot of fanfics for this series right now.

Below is a preview.

Spoiler:

In the fourth Drag-Ride hangar, Lisha stretched her arms and yawned.

Things had been pretty hectic lately. Thanks to a combination of fighting, Drag-Ride maintenance, and schoolwork, she was averaging four hours of sleep a night. But when you were the Crown Princess of the New Kingdom Atismata, such a workload was expected.

Lisha slapped her cheeks to fully wake herself. She picked up a banana and munched on it as she walked around the hangar.

Let’s see… My own Tiamat is fine, just needs some portions of the armour replaced… Lux’s Bahamut is mostly fine too… Yoruka’s Yato no Kami… is not something I can fix any time soon, the damage is too extensive… I’ll need to order more parts as well…

As she looked over the various Drag-Rides, Lisha remembered all of the events that had happened lately.

Ever since that bunch calling themselves ‘Lords’ showed up, it’s been one thing after another. Sacred Eclipse, a monster that can supposedly destroy the world… and from what I’ve seen of it, that’s definitely possible. Lux and the airheaded girl go on a mission to the Heiburg Republic, a country that has been a threat ever since our kingdom was founded, and then Heiburg’s dictator got toppled and the country’s now being reformed. Then it turns out that we’ve been holding on to a Grand Force of all things, and have to hide it, only for Singlen and the Dragon Marauders and Sacred Eclipse to show up, and then Soffice turns out to be the traitor and… I still can’t believe that all this has happened in the past year.

Lisha sighed. She went to her desk and wrote up a list of the parts that she’d need to order. Then she went to the bathroom to make herself presentable. She took off her grease-stained lab coat, washed her face, and tied up her hair in its usual side tail style.

And everyone’s getting incredibly strong, too. Nowadays, it feels like every person in the battlefield has a Divine Drag-Ride and is a master at using it, even common criminals like the Dragon Marauders. Ragnarok used to be legendary monsters that almost nobody knew about, but now they pop up all the time and we can now kill them reliably, if not easily. Even if I just look at the people around me: Lux and Yoruka can bring out the full power of their Drag-Rides with Over Limit; Krulcifer can use Full Connect and move her Drag-Ride in ways that I didn’t realise were possible before; the airhead girl has crazy strength because of her parasite, and Celis is just good all-round.

Lisha looked down at her hands. She was a princess and an elite Drag-Knight, practically as high in the social hierarchy as it was possible to be… and right now, she felt weak.

Compared to them, what do I have? I can fix up Drag-Rides, alright, but I’ve never really been able to improve on them. I did make the Chimeratech Wyvern, but trying to make anything beyond that has just been impossible. The technology in Drag-Rides is ridiculously complex – to have any chance of making something better, I’d need a lot more information and a lot more parts. But how would I get hold of those things?

Sighing again, Lisha left the bathroom and headed for the exit of the hangar. But while she was walking towards the dining hall for breakfast, a new thought flashed across her mind.

Wait… I’ve thought of this issue before and wasn’t able to solve it… but things are different now. I was a misanthrope before, but now I actually have… well, friends. And if there’s one thing I’ve learned lately, it’s that you don’t have to try and solve everything by yourself.

Lisha thought of the people she should talk to and the questions she should ask. Once that was done, she set off.

Is your fanfic? I see the name lisha I automatically get demotivated, she annoys me

[Mirable]

I remember there is bahamut fanfic, the story almost look the same with original but it add more one male in acedemy beside Lux and he serve as duo protagonist with Lux.

I'm not read that fanfic much, see new protagonist flirt with Krul and other give me NTR vibe..

[Doe, John]

This fanfic would be an expansion of canon, there won't be any NTR or anything.

[ThorPL123]

Originally Posted by Mirable

I remember there is bahamut fanfic, the story almost look the same with original but it add more one male in acedemy beside Lux and he serve as duo protagonist with Lux.

I'm not read that fanfic much, see new protagonist flirt with Krul and other give me NTR vibe..

Yeah, i hate seeings fanfics where author create now protagonist(often Self-Insert) just to steal original MC harem(Hello there High School DxD and many others harems), why they can't create new characters or take characters that already exists and are not in love with MC.

I'd love to see fanfic that expands universe or to see more interactions beetwen MC and his harem(for example Post-Ending content).

[choreprince]

This reason is I why I never read fanfiction because for the most part that's all it is. OC takes over followed by retarded changes to the story that make no sense. I can't agree more if you want to write make your own story with it's own characters isn't that the fun but I suppose your free to do whatever you like but I personally will never really care for fanfiction it's stupid. The story is most of the time best left to it's own devices.

[LeftSeven]

lol..that's like you steal people's story and you self-insert yourself as your oc, i'd rather read doujin without character change than fanfic.

[Doe, John]

I was thinking about a possible second season of the anime. While the ending for the anime that we did get makes it unlikely, it's nice to dream about.

If a hypothetical second season were 12 episodes long, there are 3 ways to adapt the material. They could adapt 2 volumes (as done by e.g. High School DxD), 3 volumes (as done by e.g. Date A Live, with an option for including some of the short stories in Volume 9) or 5 volumes (as done by the first season of Bahamut). As I see it, all 3 options end at a reasonable point: with the introduction of the Lords; with the first defeat of Sacred Eclipse; and with the reform of the Heiburg Republic and the defeat of Metatron, respectively. The third of these does have the problem of being rushed.

If the second season were 24 episodes long (which would be incredibly lucky), then there are two options: adapt 8 volumes or 10 volumes. The former is better in terms of pacing and has a decent ending, with the Lords fleeing, Fugil revealing (some of) his capabilities and the final scene with Aeril is even similar to how the first season ended. The latter option is more rushed and has 2 sub-options: end on a cliffhanger for a hypothetical third season with the reveal of Raffi being the next villain (unlikely, given that they skipped all of the foreshadowing about Endless in the first season); or have an anime-original ending where Fugil and Sacred Eclipse get defeated once and for all. I think that an anime-original ending would be more likely, and this would involve the Seven Dragon Paladins fighting and getting defeated as in the LN, only for Lux and the others to step up to the plate and defeat Fugil.

Obviously, there's the issue of Lisha becoming queen in the final episode of season 1. The easiest way to get around this would be a retcon (as done by DxD's season 4 to the previous season, which was not well received).

[DragonOsman]

For DxD Hero: Actually, the Japanese fans liked it as far as I've heard. It's mainly the western fans that didn't, because they like BorN's art and/or like Raynare (ew). I even heard that the western fans don't even know Le Fay. Like, seriously?

Anyway, we probably shouldn't talk too much about the anime here since it's for the LN.

[LeftSeven]

anime? you people are surely masochist, aren't you?

[haseo0408]

Any wor on when is the volume 17 coming out? I can't hardly wait considering all that is happenning in the story right now.

[ThorPL123]

Originally Posted by LeftSeven

anime? you people are surely masochist, aren't you?

You really don't like those anime adaptations, don't you?

I understand(or rather "know) that you dislike that they are greatly rushed or cut big part of material, but they have positive sides such as art style and maybe animation too(i have lacking/weak imigantion so i always appreciate more illustrations in LN, Anime and Manga adapations), music, and they can be good beggining place for people who didn't read/know about original source and after watching anime they might want to continue series(and also they boost sales)

I don't like when LN don't have illustrations(For example how character look like or their clothes) for something or at least description, Manga and Anime adaptations are great help for me there.

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

For DxD Hero: Actually, the Japanese fans liked it as far as I've heard. It's mainly the western fans that didn't, because they like BorN's art and/or like Raynare (ew). I even heard that the western fans don't even know Le Fay. Like, seriously?

Anyway, we probably shouldn't talk too much about the anime here since it's for the LN.

On reddit(i think it can be good representation of western fans) IIRC opinions were rather positive(except of circle jerk about animation style from fans 1-3 seasons)

About Le Fay, i assume(if it's true) that many western fans didn't read material source(also there is high chance that they are anime-only fans and maybe dub too) and 4th season of DxD Hero: was first time when they saw Le Fay.

Rayanre is probably popular because of "Draco in Leather Pants" trope, and Issei's harem(especially Rias) because of The Ron the Death Eater.

Originally Posted by Doe, John

I was thinking about a possible second season of the anime. While the ending for the anime that we did get makes it unlikely, it's nice to dream about.

If a hypothetical second season were 12 episodes long, there are 3 ways to adapt the material. They could adapt 2 volumes (as done by e.g. High School DxD), 3 volumes (as done by e.g. Date A Live, with an option for including some of the short stories in Volume 9) or 5 volumes (as done by the first season of Bahamut). As I see it, all 3 options end at a reasonable point: with the introduction of the Lords; with the first defeat of Sacred Eclipse; and with the reform of the Heiburg Republic and the defeat of Metatron, respectively. The third of these does have the problem of being rushed.

If the second season were 24 episodes long (which would be incredibly lucky), then there are two options: adapt 8 volumes or 10 volumes. The former is better in terms of pacing and has a decent ending, with the Lords fleeing, Fugil revealing (some of) his capabilities and the final scene with Aeril is even similar to how the first season ended. The latter option is more rushed and has 2 sub-options: end on a cliffhanger for a hypothetical third season with the reveal of Raffi being the next villain (unlikely, given that they skipped all of the foreshadowing about Endless in the first season); or have an anime-original ending where Fugil and Sacred Eclipse get defeated once and for all. I think that an anime-original ending would be more likely, and this would involve the Seven Dragon Paladins fighting and getting defeated as in the LN, only for Lux and the others to step up to the plate and defeat Fugil.

Obviously, there's the issue of Lisha becoming queen in the final episode of season 1. The easiest way to get around this would be a retcon (as done by DxD's season 4 to the previous season, which was not well received).

I agree that retcons would be needed(a lot of them, because for example we would need introduce Aeril and people from other kingdoms)

As for adapation, i would prefer more episodes(24) and less volume(2 or 3?) that would allow to adapt LN''s more faithfully, do some heavy worldbuilding(IIRC "1st season" was rather lacking in that aspect) and give characters more screen time.

[RDNexus]

Originally Posted by ThorPL123

As for adapation, i would prefer more episodes(24) and less volume(2 or 3?) that would allow to adapt LN''s more faithfully,do some worldbuilding(IIRC "1st season" was rather lacking in that aspect) and give characters more screen time.

That'd be the ideal way for Anime-only Viewers, but it rarely works that way. Most Anime Adaptations function as ads for the source materials, so the more stuff they can cram in a series, the better to them, since it shows more potential waifu materials to get as many new fans as possible to buy the source materials.

[ThorPL123]

Originally Posted by xrick

That'd be the ideal way for Anime-only Viewers, but it rarely works that way. Most Anime Adaptations function as ads for the source materials, so the more stuff they can cram in a series, the better to them, since it shows more potential waifu materials to get as many new fans as possible to buy the source materials.

Yes, I'm aware of that, because of reasons you listed and that production of anime is quite expensive.

Unless you are Sword Art Online.(Alicization is 4 seasons long, and other seasons were 2 seasons long IIRC) But Saijaku Bahamut isn't popular as SAO(golden goose of LN's).