(L) Kokoro Connect [Light Novel]

[rainbowdashmio]

Originally Posted by Lantern

Ehh, truth to be told, the "rejection" started out messy thanks to Heartseed's new gimmick and it's effect on Iori but this is where the two have a heart to heart talk and mend the mess. I must say the two handled it very very maturely for teenagers.

Taichi had always held a high amount of respect and likings towards Inaba. The only difference Inaba's confession made is to add a bit of romantic element in Taichi's "like" chart as well as getting her feelings known to him.

Ah, right about Heartseed, I've heard there's two of them, but that's not the main question I'm going to ask now. My question is that in VL 1, is the body switching, VL 2 is the Inner Desire release , VL 3 was going back to their younger ages, VL 4 was sharing thoughts of some sort ? But how about VLS 5,6,7,8, what other gimmicks do Heartseed gives them. Because I know in VL 5 Taichi gives Inaba...A hard time leading them to a break up?

[Lantern]

Originally Posted by rainbowdashmio

Ah, right about Heartseed, I've heard there's two of them, but that's not the main question I'm going to ask now. My question is that in VL 1, is the body switching, VL 2 is the Inner Desire release , VL 3 was going back to their younger ages, VL 4 was sharing thoughts of some sort ? But how about VLS 5,6,7,8, what other gimmicks do Heartseed gives them. Because I know in VL 5 Taichi gives Inaba...A hard time leading them to a break up?

Vol.5 & 8 are short stories. No Trollseed involved.

Click for gimmicks

The volume you're talking about is Vol.7.

Spoiler for copied and pasted from page 12:

First off, the new phenomenon led to a heated disagreement between Taichi + Yui and Inaba + Aoki, and especially between Taichi and Inaba. The arc revolves around the theme concerning of Taichi's "White Knight" motif.

By Chapter 7 of Vol.7, Inaba proved to Taichi the errors of his approach. However during their debate Taichi still didn't seem to understand, so Inaba ended the conversation by telling him that she was both disappointed and disgusted of how Taichi's completely lost himself (something along the line of being obsessed with chronic hero syndrome, imposing ideals and abusing a power that doesn't belong to him), and that since she isn't able to convince him to change, they should just end their relationship there.

[rainbowdashmio]

Originally Posted by Lantern

Ehh, truth to be told, the "rejection" started out messy thanks to Heartseed's new gimmick and it's effect on Iori but this is where the two have a heart to heart talk and mend the mess. I must say the two handled it very very maturely for teenagers.

Taichi had always held a high amount of respect and likings towards Inaba. The only difference Inaba's confession made is to add a bit of romantic element in Taichi's "like" chart as well as getting her feelings known to him.

Originally Posted by Lantern

Vol.5 & 8 are short stories. No Trollseed involved.

Click for gimmicks

The volume you're talking about is Vol.7.

Spoiler for copied and pasted from page 12:

First off, the new phenomenon led to a heated disagreement between Taichi + Yui and Inaba + Aoki, and especially between Taichi and Inaba. The arc revolves around the theme concerning of Taichi's "White Knight" motif.

By Chapter 7 of Vol.7, Inaba proved to Taichi the errors of his approach. However during their debate Taichi still didn't seem to understand, so Inaba ended the conversation by telling him that she was both disappointed and disgusted of how Taichi's completely lost himself (something along the line of being obsessed with chronic hero syndrome, imposing ideals and abusing a power that doesn't belong to him), and that since she isn't able to convince him to change, they should just end their relationship there.

Ah, yes. I read those threads before , I just forgot, thanks for reminding me. Do you mind telling me the heated disagreement between Taichi and Yui, Inaba and Akio. D: Also, where the heck is Iori in this mess xD

[Lantern]

Originally Posted by rainbowdashmio

Ah, yes. I read those threads before , I just forgot, thanks for reminding me. Do you mind telling me the heated disagreement between Taichi and Yui, Inaba and Aoki. D: Also, where the heck is Iori in this mess xD

Iori took the role of a neutral negotiator between the two sides, as well as a mentor.

The disagreement has to do with the new gimmick.
Taichi wanted to use the gimmick to help the ones they see in the dreams,
While Inaba insisted that they shouldn't butt into other people's private matters as it is not in their right nor responsibility nor ability to do so, let alone abusing a power that doesn't even belong to them to begin with. And that they will do everything in their power to stop Taichi's group from doing anything out of line.

[Sumeragi]

Hmmmm..... I think we need to standardize how we refer to volumes.

I propose using numbers to refer to the six main volumes, and the side story volumes being referred to their titles (Clip Time and Step Time).

[Mura]

Does Kokoro Connect have a social group? I think its popular enough to earn one.

[Lantern]

Originally Posted by Sumeragi

Hmmmm..... I think we need to standardize how we refer to volumes.

I propose using numbers to refer to the six main volumes, and the side story volumes being referred to their titles (Clip Time and Step Time).

That would normally the idea, except people without knowledge of the series tend to identify with the actual volume numbers and care little about the titles. They only find out whether the volume contains the main story line or short story after they get into it.

Which is why I stick with volume numbers. It's like SAO all over again.

[Sumeragi]

Originally Posted by Mura

Does Kokoro Connect have a social group? I think its popular enough to earn one.

Join the Kokoro Connect Research Club

[Mura]

Originally Posted by Sumeragi

Join the Kokoro Connect Research Club

I knew you'd come through Sume.

Think you can make a thread for all the volume illustrations as well like you did for the Oda Nobuna group?

[rainbowdashmio]

Originally Posted by Lantern

Iori took the role of a neutral negotiator between the two sides, as well as a mentor.

The disagreement has to do with the new gimmick.
Taichi wanted to use the gimmick to help the ones they see in the dreams,
While Inaba insisted that they shouldn't butt into other people's private matters as it is not in their right nor responsibility nor ability to do so, let alone abusing a power that doesn't even belong to them to begin with. And that they will do everything in their power to stop Taichi's group from doing anything out of line.

Ah, wow. Really, I believe this is where Taichi's -selfless- behavior is going to affect everyone, even him; and I understand Taichi's urges to help, but I also understand Inaba's of trespassing someone's privacy. This is a tough one to which to agree even more....And yes again, Inaba, though she changed a lot through out the story, I mean a lot, she's still level headed as always. She will be one hard girlfriend xD

[Lantern]

Originally Posted by rainbowdashmio

Ah, wow. Really, I believe this is where Taichi's -selfless- behavior is going to affect everyone, even him; and I understand Taichi's urges to help, but I also understand Inaba's of trespassing someone's privacy. This is a tough one to which to agree even more....And yes again, Inaba, though she changed a lot through out the story, I mean a lot, she's still level headed as always. She will be one hard girlfriend xD

At first it seems that way, but through the course of that arc, you'd find that Taichi had completely cross the line of being "genuinely selfless" towards being one of "obsessive" "heroic syndrome" with "no regards of the limit of capability" who is also "imposing ideals on others" while "abusing an external power that isn't his own", completely "losing the identity" and the meaning of being "Yaegashi Taichi".　He became "selfless" for the sake of just being reflexively "selfless". He had lost sight of his purpose of being "selfless". He became someone of an empty shell. During their break up, Inaba asked Taichi:

Inaba: You said you love me. What did you love about me?

He couldn't even answer this single, simple question. He could only stand there, speechless, with Inaba grimly walking off into the night without looking back.


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Maybe because I've always been cynical, but I've never find overly selfless personality to be favorable. Thinking back on those marvel super hero themed movies, being a Hero takes personal strength and responsibility. If you cannot uphold either of these, your path is nothing but that of self-destruction, and consequently jeopardizing those you care in the bitter end.

From the Dark Knight:
"You either Die a Hero, or you do it long enough to see Yourself to Become a Villain."

Taichi may not have gone to that extreme, but he had certainly gone down the path of imposing yet ignorant righteousness and had effectively forgotten the very things that are truly important to him.

Clues of Taichi's inherent problem can be found through out the several main arcs:

Vol. 1 - The limit of his ability
Vol. 2 - The consequences of his actions
Vol. 3 - The burden
Vol. 4 - His imposing ideals
Vol. 6 - The effects of being given a taste of undeserved power via Chihiro

Now run down the list and have them all explode in one single arc, that is Vol. 7 Yume Random

[Sumeragi]

The extreme idealist. That is what Taichi has become, and why Inaba must rescue him.

[Mura]

Originally Posted by Sumeragi

The extreme idealist. That is what Taichi has become, and why Inaba must rescue him.

This line really reminds me of the UBW end and how Tohsaka will make Shirou do things for himself and not just for others. I hope Inaba can do the same thing for Taichi that Tohsaka intended for Shirou.

[rainbowdashmio]

That was creatively from the start. Crap, I didn't notice that, thanks for noticing me so meanwhile I'm reading, I can see those stuff foreshadowing in my reading e.e . But being selfless also means being selfish P:

[Lantern]

Originally Posted by rainbowdashmio

<-- Inaba referring to ep 6. ha.

Inaba is always sexually frustrated. It's become a tradition of Kokoro Connect. In each volume there will be at least one scene where Inaba would shamelessly spurt out / act out blatantly sexual references (all directed at Taichi of course).

i.e. from Vol.6

Polygon discussing measures against the imposter.

Taichi: That being said, it (the imposter) looked and smelled exactly like Inaba though...

Inaba: Do... Do I really smell that much? *worried*

Taichi: No...! I mean... you smell good.

Iori: PERRRVERRRT~~~!

Inaba: Ah... Is that so... Taichi thinks I smell good... Then again I'd really want a chance to blend our scent together soon~ *blushes & giggles*

Iori: EROOOOOOIII~~~!

Readers' reaction:

Maybe I should create a compilation of those scenes some time

[Sumeragi]

Himeko-chan and I sure do match up, don't we?

[Lantern]

Originally Posted by Sumeragi

Himeko-chan and I sure do match up, don't we?

In the sense that you both resort to comedic violence? Yeah I agree XDD

[Sumeragi]

More like in almost every aspect from body ratio to personality. Seems like the only main difference would be that I'm taller (assuming Himeko-chan is not 168 cm, which I doubt she is) and that I wouldn't be stripping in a public place just because my loved one asks me to. And I don't do a certain activity.

[rainbowdashmio]

I love my Himeko Inaba, really. Warm, pervy, and serious. I CAN'T.

Though, WE ALL TEENAGERS SUFFER FROM SEXUAL FRUSTRATION

And yes, please quote more stuff like these xD

[yu3]

Originally Posted by Lantern

Nosebleed? Why it's the Inaban ultra-cuteness meter of course! Actually, ultra-cute, is a terrible understatement.

Oh!!! I understand! Inaba is reeeeealllllllly cute and sexy. LOL

Originally Posted by Lantern

Polygon discussing measures against the imposter.

Taichi: That being said, it (the imposter) looked and smelled exactly like Inaba though...

Inaba: Do... Do I really smell that much? *worried*

Taichi: No...! I mean... you smell good.

Iori: PERRRVERRRT~~~!

Inaba: Ah... Is that so... Taichi thinks I smell good... But I'd really like the chance to blend our scent together~ *blushes & giggles*

Iori: EROOOOOOIII~~~!

O yeah, I have a question.. Did Yukiko Horiguchi draw Taichi's confession to Inaba at the church?