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2011-08-21, 11:05 | Link #15963 | |
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2011-08-21, 12:06 | Link #15964 | |
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2011-08-21, 15:11 | Link #15965 | |
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You have been conditioned to like meat. Just as some tribes in the amazon like human flesh (By the way did you know that Pork tastes VERY similar to human flesh?, so every time you eat pork you might as well be eating a human). Animal protein has been consistently linked to heart disease, bacterial infections, viral infections, and cancer. Yes, eating animal protein is increasing your chances of getting cancer. Meat suppresses the creation of a specialized pancreatic enzyme that combats cancerous cells that naturally occur in your body. Good luck trying to get that message past MC Donald's, The American Cancer Society, the pharmaceutic industry, farms and much, much more I still like meat, I can't deny it. But I am sure as hell trying to replace my eating habits because I know it will be better for my health in the long run. You are what you eat. |
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2011-08-21, 15:37 | Link #15966 | |||
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2011-08-21, 15:41 | Link #15967 | |
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Many people on this heart attack proof diet will end up diabetic as they will be too reliant on carbohydrate intake. Not to say a vegan diet is impossible to pull off, but the average person (in my opinion) will have a tough time meeting their nutrient requirements. Certain people have the genetic makeup to handle and thrive on carbohydrate intake. Many others must try to remain somewhat in line with our ancestral eating habits. A good rule of thumb is looking at how long your ancestors were exposed to routine carbohydrate intake - in East Asians the adaptation is strong; in Inuits there is no adaptation whatsoever. So a Japanese male may be perfectly healthy eating his daily bowl of rice, but such frequent servings could be dangerous or at the least detrimental to the Inuit, whose ancestors have largely lived off animal fats, organs and meat for thousands of years. |
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2011-08-21, 16:54 | Link #15968 |
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Furthermore, Meat builds muscle, and helps you grow more. One of the main reason that people's heights have grown so much over the past century is due to increased consumption of meat.
And let's also be honest, most people don't have the access (or willingness to eat) the large variety of nutrients required for a vegan diet, you need a ton of different vegetables to replace what you get from meat. And besides that, I don't know of a single population in the world that doesn't find meat delicious and a treat. I know of no tribal cultures that are completely averse to eating meat, in fact usually meat is integral to any celebration. Also, Cannibalism is only rarely due to a desire for meat, it's usually performed for ritualistic reasons (By consuming another man's flesh you gain his strength) |
2011-08-21, 16:58 | Link #15969 |
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A properly nutritious vegan diet is horribly expensive to maintain. Most people just can't afford it. Cheap meat offers cheap protein. Might not be fillet mignon, but hey, it's still got the nutrients.
Edit, @Don: There are lots of religious groups who don't eat meat. Zen Buddhists and Jains, to give examples.
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2011-08-21, 17:56 | Link #15970 | |
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2011-08-21, 18:04 | Link #15971 | |
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Vegetarian yes, vegans no, as dairy are important in their diet and culture (Cows are not holy just for the heck of it, but because they provide milk).
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2011-08-21, 18:37 | Link #15973 | |||
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2011-08-21, 19:10 | Link #15974 | |||
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I didn't talk about cannibalism, I only mentioned that pork tastes like human flesh and that is proven fact which has been ratified by cannibals. (Some firemen also hate the smell of roasted pork because it reminds them of burnt human flesh) Quote:
This is all good and dandy but we are primarily designed as herbivores. Our teeth and digestive track are build to assimilate and process plant life in a more efficient way than flesh. When you eat a nice juicy steak it may take days for it to be fully digested, this is one of the reason why eating meat makes us feel fuller faster. Protein is abundant in the plant world, the problem is that depending on the region of the world you live in that source might be harder to obtain. However, due to our current technological development, those regional barriers "should be gone but, of course, that doesn't happen because the need for profit supersedes that of proper nutrition for the rest of the world. Pound for pound plant life outweighs flesh life in terms of nutritional value. However, I still can't find a nutritional replacement for Salmon and eggs. Have you heard of superfoods, they are almost entirely plant based. As Dr Morris puts it: Quote:
* Red wine, water, and green tea. * Avocado, broccoli, onions, peppers, soy, spinach, and sprouts, hot peppers, leeks, daikon radishes. * Açai, apples, blueberries, pomegranates, pumpkin, kiwi, oranges, and tomatoes. * Wild salmon, turkey, eggs. * Beans, barley, seeds, nuts, lentils, oats, walnuts and buckwheat. * Cinnamon, dark chocolates, garlic, honey, extra virgin olive oil ("cold pressed"), sea salt, yogurt & kefir. * Sea vegetables, irish moss, umeboshi plums, wheat grass, miso. There is also a thing called Macrobiotics, which is an ancient diet, mostly based on superfoods, practiced by Asiatic cultures, mainly China and Japan, and which Michio Kushi brought to the western hemisphere. The macrobiotic diet makes the same claims that the article on heart attacks does, as well as preventing and reversing cancer, and extending life. Basically the article is not news at all and frankly I am surprised that it came to light, because I don't think the corporate owned media would want to publish such dangerous information for the market system. After all, the industry doesn't want to entice people to eat less meat. Now onto protein and its absorption, yes it is true that meat usually contains more protein than plants, but it is not matter of quantity, it is a matter of how much and how efficiently your body absorbs it. Unfortunately for us meat eaters our body cannot process animal protein as efficiently as vegetable protein; we can only absorb 50% of the protein contained in meat whereas with plants we absorb 90% or more. Protein in meat usually has most of the amino acids required by the body for its proper functioning whereas plants usually contain incomplete amino acids so the need to combine them throughout the day is important, such as beans and rice, in order to get an adequate intake of protein. Too much protein can also be a bad thing! We make protein too much of big deal in our culture. There is no single "best" source of protein out there, rather what is needed is to obtain your amino acids from various sources as to create a balanced diet. PS. Just in case you haven't caught what I have been trying to hint at with these 2 posts; the cure for cancer already exists. It has been known in the west since the early 1900s by homeopathic medicine, which was later labeled as fake and full of swindles by the allopathic medicine establishment. All you have to do is limit your intake in animal protein. The cure for cancer has been distorted by the industry because there is no money to be made and natural food cannot be patented, but chemical compounds can. But this is a topic for another day. |
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2011-08-21, 20:00 | Link #15977 | |
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2011-08-21, 20:01 | Link #15978 |
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Like I said, he buys every form of new-agey snake oil that comes down the pipe. Homeopathy is 100% absolute nonsense. If you don't believe me, search Youtube for "james randi homeopathy" if you want to see just how effective "homeopathic medicine" really is.
Spoiler: it's just water.
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2011-08-21, 20:06 | Link #15979 | ||
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Well nothing will be done, protest or not, the 2m labour import project is already well underway. Simply put, no matter who we put at the top, it is always about GDP and international image rather than citizens' emotional well-being. The local government has been rather weak with their communication in the past 5 years - the 40+ years growth of laurels must have been getting too comfortable. Time to trim the plants. Quote:
There is no better form of redemption than ultimate shame.
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I claim that what you know and what you believe is the product of the profit driven social system. Reagan said it himself after all: "Government is not part of the solution is part of the problem". Of course, there is a little marvelous invention called the internet which has brought chaos to the good old political systems, media establishments and industries alike. * sarcasm* Not to worry though, we need to protect our children from internet porn, and cut the communication of terrorist groups across the globe. So it is important to regulate the internet! */end sarcasm* Quote:
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What needs to happen is to A) Start promoting fruits and vegetables more than items that go into your regular fast food item, B) Centralize the production of food and empower local farms. What we eat comes from distant places and it is usually a week old. I has also lost over 60% of its nutritional value. Quote:
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