Nanoha - StrikerS - Episode 11 Discussion / Poll

[Dark Wing]

Originally Posted by Ratler

IS that a vote for the TSAB??

okay I guess you say that...

Originally Posted by Icarus

Why do some police forces condone the use of live ammo but allow the use of rubber bullets and tazers?

I know where your going with this but also take into account that in the Nanoverse magical beats physical this is why the TSAB never had non-magical individuals working for them because if your fight a mage on mage battle you'll need a mage whos power is equal or greater then the enemy to beat him/her. Physical damage wouldn't do jack to a magical shild and as for the AFM's I don't think that kind of tech is around for just anybody to pick up...

[Icarus]

Originally Posted by Dark Wing

...this is way the TSAB never had non-magical individuals working for them...

Genya has no magical ability. Most of the characters we've seen so far have magical ability, but that doesn't mean to say that the TSAB is filled with mages, that's far from it. They probably have scores of non-magical staff not just in support but also on the front lines as well.

Originally Posted by Dark Wing

Physical damage wouldn't do jack to a magical shild

And how may I ask do you know that? All we've seen so far is mage-on-mage battles. For all we know there could be an EMP-type weapon out there, as well as melee weapons that can negate magical barriers (think AMF-coated blades or similar).

Originally Posted by Dark Wing

...and as for the AFM's I don't think that kind of tech is around for just anybody to pick up...

The black market is a wonderful thing.

[Dark Wing]

Originally Posted by Icarus

Genya has no magical ability. Most of the characters we've seen so far have magical ability, but that doesn't mean to say that the TSAB is filled with mages, that's far from it. They probably have scores of non-magical staff not just in support but also on the front lines as well.

I meant in terms of combat usage but as fare as stuff like communications, medical treatment, and other non-combat roles there is no doubt in my mind that the TSAB have plenty of non-magical users working in those fields. however I've never seen a non-magic user on the battle field yet. As for Genya...whos that again? sorry I can't recall that name....

And how may I ask do you know that? All we've seen so far is mage-on-mage battles. For all we know there could be an EMP-type weapon out there, as well as melee weapons that can negate magical barriers (think AMF-coated blades or similar).

Back in A's we saw Vita use a melee attack on Nanoha during their first encounter and she deflected it. Mind you if it weren't for the cartridge system Vite was using it may have done nothing to her. Also yea we don't know if AMF type melee weapons are around or not but until I actually see one I'm sticking with my Magical beats Physical theory.

The black market is a wonderful thing.

Okay you got me here....but still difficult for normal people to get their hands one. Evil mad man with lots of underworld connections different story.

[octoberasian]

Well, took me a while to get the RAW since the versions on NicoNico didn't work. Had to read that chat log on the right side, next to the videos to find where to download them. Then, getting the RAWs in 2 files, spent half an hour trying to figure the goddamn password. -_-; Then there was a hint on the download page that took me a while to translate: "The password is the White Devil." (Hint was in Japanese. <.<) I was like... *lightbulb!*... Who is this White Devil they speak of? >.>; Then, I figured out the password.

Anyway... episode thoughts:

Spoiler:

1. They skip henshin sequence for Hayate and Ginga. >_< Oh well, Ginga's suit is mighty fine. o_o

- Hayate is one person to stay away from when her Limiter is released. <.< Even Fate and Nanoha had to clear the area. Imagine if Hayate and Rein II combined how much power the two have without a Limiter. @_@ Thank goodness Hayate's on the good side.

- Something tells me Scagliete is going to use every single person in those test tubes. x_x Scagliete's female army vs. RF6... I think they're fairly outnumbered. They should just let Hayate wipe them out to get it over with.

- Much more action than previous episodes, and we get to see the Nakajima sisters fight together.

- Hopefully Caro's alright. >_< She took a point-blank shot from Lutecia. T_T

- Tea gets to use her "gunblade" in this episode, though didn't get a chance to slice Lutecia. Aww...

I can't wait to see Ep.12 now. Erio would probably exact his revenge, and hopefully they don't lock away the Limiter again on Hayate. Going to be a fun fight next.

[Kha]

Originally Posted by Ratler

I thought so ok so far the votes are

1: TSAB -- 2
2: Church -- 1
3: Other -- 0

Ill try and keep track of it ^^

I vote 1, for the sure heck of the kick if the villian of the season turns out to be a "Durandal", not the device mind you.

Originally Posted by An Hero in Disguise

They don't have to repeat GSD, so instead of showing how bad is war they may tell that "war can sometimes be necessary to make society better", or "a good war justifies the goals" - fighting makes humanity evolve after all

I hope that's not from the good side, or Nanoha's mouth, cos that gives me Bush vibes.

[Ratler]

Originally Posted by Ratler

ok so on that note who does everyone think the clientis:
1: TSAB
2: Church
3: Other

OK here is the Poll update ^^

1: TSAB -- 5

Spoiler for Who voted for this.:

Fuyu no Sora, Keroko, Deathkillz, Dark Wing, Kha,

2: Church -- 2

Spoiler for Who voted for this.:

Ratler, An Hero in Disguise,

3: Other -- 1

Spoiler for Who voted for this.:

Icarus,

[aroduc]

Cappery/summary et all
http://www.seiha.org/blog/?p=133

Really liked the episode. They're finally giving form to the baddie squad and throwing the rookies into some actual combat instead of training. That said, the stock animation annoyed me, especially since there really was very little breathtaking action stuff otherwise.

[FlareKnight]

Alright finally got the episode and after a few pages I'm back. I'd say it seems likely there could be corruption in the TSAB ranks and this client could be in there.

Spoiler for Episode Thoughts:

Of course the #1 thing that has to be said, The Return of Chrono! If they were going to sit him into a chair couldn't they have gotten around to that earlier? But hey just having him around again is nice. Hopefully they'll get him into the action and not just releasing limiters

Well get some bloody action this time and of course Erio takes the hit. Why else put a guy into the group unless he's going to get bloodied up right? Good job though rushing in to help Caro even if he got knocked around when Caro got blasted. Guess getting blown away from Lutecia hurts more than getting hit into a wall and leaving a crater.

Interesting how a similar move to Vita's 'Iron Howl' gets brought in against the rookies. Took till episode 11 but we've hit the point where the good guys hit some serious trouble. Guess throwing Zest into things just would've been overkill. Nice move by Teana using stealth and dagger mode to catch Lutecia even if it was for a moment. Get some damage as well on Garyu by taking a headshot at Lutecia. Though why she was embarassed by that I'm not entirely certain.

Interesting how when the talk about 'artificial mages' came up Erio was looking down on the ground.

Good episode with a lot of things going on.

[An Hero in Disguise]

Originally Posted by Kha

I hope that's not from the good side, or Nanoha's mouth, cos that gives me Bush vibes.

I'd expect from Hayate

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I wouldn't call physical weapons inferior to magic so fast. Even if in most cases it loses in terms of raw power there're several features about it that would make it more effective. I can understand the ban of its public usage but the military should've kept it (unless they're showing an example this way).

[GUTB_]

What are the Japanes fans saying about the attrocious animation of this series?

[aroduc]

Originally Posted by GUTB_

What are the Japanes fans saying about the attrocious animation of this series?

The what now? It hasn't really been up to the condensed greatness of the first two seasons, but it has still definitely been consistently above average compared to the overwhelming majority of stuff out there.

[Meophist]

Originally Posted by Deathkillz

and the way tea holds cross mirage vs 2 is still dangerous @_@ (since when did she learn cloaking :O)

Episode 1

In any case, I just finished watching the episode. Hrmm… how many characters are they planning on introducing? We already have around 20… even by the end of the series I think we'll have more than a 1:1 Character:Episode ratio.

[GUTB_]

Are you calling the animation "above average"?

Wow.

I guess there are no complaints from the Japanese fans then.

[mist2123]

They didn't want nanoha to blast the type-2th's cuz there wont be any planet after the PINK BIG BANG

[An Hero in Disguise]

Originally Posted by GUTB_

Are you calling the animation "above average"?

Wow.

I guess there are no complaints from the Japanese fans then.

Why should the japanese fans' complaints bother you? I wouldn't expect a 26-episode season to have top animation when even the 13-episode ones weren't flawless. It's perfectly watchable for me.

[Fuyu no Sora]

Originally Posted by An Hero in Disguise

Why should the japanese fans' complaints bother you? I wouldn't expect a 26-episode season to have top animation when even the 13-episode ones weren't flawless. It's perfectly watchable for me.

I support your statement fully. The show is actually starting to pick up now (maybe a little too much ) and we get to see some more action. There's nothing to complain about as far as I can see.

[Village Idiot]

I'm betting the DVD version will fix all the animation stuff.

Can't wait for someone to do DVD rips of the series.

[Meophist]

Alright, in this episode, there were 15 named combatants in battle at once(3 Aces, 4 Newbies, 1 Wolkenritter, Ginga, Fried, Reinforce II, Lutecia, Garyuu, 1 mystery character, Agito). The highest number previous to this in the Nanoha series was 11 at the end of A's(3 Aces, 4 Wolkenritter, Chrono, Yuuno, Arf, Lindy).

[An Hero in Disguise]

Originally Posted by Meophist

Alright, in this episode, there were 15 named combatants in battle at once(3 Aces, 4 Newbies, 1 Wolkenritter, Ginga, Fried, Reinforce II, Lutecia, Garyuu, 1 mystery character, Agito). The highest number previous to this in the Nanoha series was 11 at the end of A's(3 Aces, 4 Wolkenritter, Chrono, Yuuno, Arf, Lindy).

Well, they were acting on different stages though instead of being gathered in one bunch. I wonder if the next development will involve personal battles for some characters or we're up to one big free-for-all match?

[Fuyu no Sora]

Originally Posted by An Hero in Disguise

Well, they were acting on different stages though instead of being gathered in one bunch. I wonder if the next development will involve personal battles for some characters or we're up to one big free-for-all match?

I'm not sure which one would be the most dangerous, but it would be fun to see some more battles