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Xellos-_^ · 2007-11-29, 12:17

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Originally Posted by killbethy

there doesn't seem to be any limbo about it... they were intending to release things through adv, but the two companies couldn't come to an agreement. all the news i have read has said that geneon usa is dead for good... and if any of the series continue, they will have to be picked up by someone else.

http://anime.ign.com/articles/834/834362p1.html

Production has stop but the company is still there in a legal sense and still owns all rights to any anime in its profolio. So unless Genon USA completely close down and the rights to it is animes are revert back to the original company fansubs are still a no go.

Besides which Shows like Hellsing and Black Lagoon are pretty much going to be pick by someone they are the type of shows that tend to o well in the R1 market.

Also Avatar is still being pay by someone to work on Nanoha and Zero so both shows being release in the future is pretty high.

It is all just a matter of time.

Whitemoon648 · 2007-11-29, 12:42

I had a question. What does this Quote mean?:

"From October 1, 2007, Geneon USA will focus mainly on management of its works portfolio."

SeijiSensei · 2007-11-29, 13:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whitemoon648

I had a question. What does this Quote mean?:

"From October 1, 2007, Geneon USA will focus mainly on management of its works portfolio."

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...98#post1166898

Whitemoon648 · 2007-11-29, 15:51

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Originally Posted by SeijiSensei

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...98#post1166898

So it just means that they are looking to find people to sell their product's licenses to? I thought it had a more significant meaning than that.

SeijiSensei · 2007-11-29, 16:53

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Originally Posted by Whitemoon648

So it just means that they are looking to find people to sell their product's licenses to? I thought it had a more significant meaning than that.

Perhaps it does. What did you think it meant?

Vexx · 2007-11-29, 17:05

It doesn't just mean "to sell their product licenses" ... they have works in progress that they appear to be trying to negotiate completion, release, and distribution agreements with other shops.

Rereading their news releases ... I'm wondering if they're intent on just becoming a clearing house or "prime contractor" and all the actual work gets outsourced.

Whitemoon648 · 2007-11-30, 14:31

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Originally Posted by SeijiSensei

Perhaps it does. What did you think it meant?

Well what i wrote was what i thought. But i still thought there might have been a bigger meaning to what they said. Such as they might want to completly stop trades with USA. In another words i thought maybe Geneon (JP) didnt want to have any of their works released in USA any more, which would be a bummer. They usually have good works and Geneon's quality of anime was improving and at a really good level. I was curious ( as probably many fans are) why Geneon did that. Wouldnt USA be one of their biggest market?

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Originally Posted by Vexx

It doesn't just mean "to sell their product licenses" ... they have works in progress that they appear to be trying to negotiate completion, release, and distribution agreements with other shops.

Rereading their news releases ... I'm wondering if they're intent on just becoming a clearing house or "prime contractor" and all the actual work gets outsourced.

Oh to finish the unfinished works. I completly forgot about that. Well i still hope they would some how release their work in USA. Also It was a shame that they couldnt come up with an agreement with AD vision. After VIZ they are my most favorite producers.

Vexx · 2008-01-02, 18:46

Queried the address given on Geneon's still active website (which links to a Rightstuf address). Here's the response I got. Not promising but not dead and buried either.

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Originally Posted by Rightstuf rep for questions about Geneon

Hello-
Unfortunately, we haven't heard anything about another company picking
up Geneon's unfinished titles. If/when that does happen, the
announcement will be made on both the company website and ours as well.

Thank you and have a nice day,
Brandon B.

The other thing is that Geneon's website acts as if things are still running... just no updates or status updates since November.

Aoie_Emesai · 2008-01-02, 19:08

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Originally Posted by Vexx

The other thing is that Geneon's website acts as if things are still running... just no updates or status updates since November.

I guess they might still have a chance to see the market value of their assets ^^

Seiryuu · 2008-03-26, 06:27

I'm out of date on this, and there's probably a different thread somewhere I didn't look on it, but I'm curious about this. As I've heard it, Geneon USA has completely shut down. Some companies, like Funimation, are trying to acquire the licenses that Geneon either didn't start or didn't finish. Regardless, the licensing company seems to be no more, so my question is: of those licenses that have not yet had a single release, what is their status? I've heard of licenses being cancelled before, and I know how such a show's status is viewed on AS and the forums. But what of ZnT, Nanoha and Geneon's other recent buys?
Please note, I am only asking about Geneon licenses that have not begun distribution yet and that have not been officially picked up by a different company. If my information is out of date and all their licenses have been reclaimed, then that's fine. I also know that most of the licenses, if not yet claimed, are likely targets for other companies to license and will probably be licensed soon. But, again, until officially transferred, what is the general view?
note: I'm also disregarding issues with parent companies, such as MFI, since shows with such issues have the same status whether licensed or not.

bayoab · 2008-03-26, 09:20

All shows are still licensed by Geneon. They have just stopped releasing the DVDs. They are still working on production of the series (dubbing, subtitles) as they have contracts with other companies that require them to finish the work on them.

Vexx · 2008-03-26, 17:13

This is... so bloody strange. My 3 Karin volumes sitting their Karin artbox would really like to have the rest of their sisters join them. My fund for Nanoha is getting dusty....

The total lack of status doesn't improve my disposition.
Here's a link to the last bit of information someone was able to spot (in February):
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...-geneon-titles

Kamui4356 · 2008-03-26, 19:08

I really wish someone would take Nanoha off their hands already... It was one of the series I was looking foward to buying. On line of course, as I was certainly not looking forward to getting strange looks from the cashier at best buy.

You'd think as an anime fan I'd be used to those strange looks.

Icehawk · 2008-03-26, 19:58

So long as Black Lagoon and Higurashi get picked up I will be happy, those two shows simly MUST be finnished. Yeah, the silence on the status of this debacle is really annoying. Would have been nice if Funimation gave an update at that convention they were at recently.

Seiryuu · 2008-03-26, 22:30

Sorry for making the new thread, I was looking for this in the license department.
As I said, I have no doubt about stuff like Higurashi, where some of the series is complete. At that point, contracts and plans become harder to change. Prior to initial distribution, however, things are a little less certain. I understood, however, that no new productions would be produced and distributed, so it sounds like projects like Nanoha that are still in the earlier stages were simply cut. I just want to know how the "complete" shutdown of Geneon USA effects those. It could be that they're far enough along and have done enough work on the first volumes that contracts with other companies will require production or sale. On the other hand, depending on how far along production was, it could be like Mermaid Melody Pichi Pichi Pitch: work just stops and deals are voided. So, were the series they've been PLANNING but not yet PRODUCING completely dropped, or are there still some contractual obligations left?

bayoab · 2008-03-27, 00:18

Production continued on all Geneon series. Even the ones they hadn't even started work on before closing.

Also, it appears that the first true rescue has appeared as there is a post on the AnimeonDVD forums that Media Blasters has Seirei no Moribito. (Trailer is supposedly on Kite: Liberator DVD).

Xellos-_^ · 2008-03-27, 13:03

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Originally Posted by Seiryuu

Sorry for making the new thread, I was looking for this in the license department.
As I said, I have no doubt about stuff like Higurashi, where some of the series is complete. At that point, contracts and plans become harder to change. Prior to initial distribution, however, things are a little less certain. I understood, however, that no new productions would be produced and distributed, so it sounds like projects like Nanoha that are still in the earlier stages were simply cut. I just want to know how the "complete" shutdown of Geneon USA effects those. It could be that they're far enough along and have done enough work on the first volumes that contracts with other companies will require production or sale. On the other hand, depending on how far along production was, it could be like Mermaid Melody Pichi Pichi Pitch: work just stops and deals are voided. So, were the series they've been PLANNING but not yet PRODUCING completely dropped, or are there still some contractual obligations left?

Translation and timing for Nanoha has been finish for quite a while. Not sure where the dubs stand but Nanoha was not cut in the early stages.

Quarkboy · 2008-03-27, 22:15

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Originally Posted by Xellos-_^

Translation and timing for Nanoha has been finish for quite a while. Not sure where the dubs stand but Nanoha was not cut in the early stages.

Nanoha has been completely dubbed, info from personal contact who knows the VA for nanoha.

Whether the dub ever gets released is still completely unknown.

darkchibi07 · 2008-03-27, 22:47

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Originally Posted by Quarkboy

Nanoha has been completely dubbed, info from personal contact who knows the VA for nanoha.

Whether the dub ever gets released is still completely unknown.

Do you know who'll be dubbing it or that's a secret?

Kamui4356 · 2008-03-28, 03:32

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Originally Posted by Quarkboy

Nanoha has been completely dubbed, info from personal contact who knows the VA for nanoha.

Whether the dub ever gets released is still completely unknown.

That's good to hear. If it's read to go it will hopefully increase the chances of another company picking it up. It would be a shame if they put all that work in and it never sees a release though...

2007-11-29, 12:42	Link #142
Whitemoon648 Sawa-Chan <3 <3 <3 Join Date: Dec 2004	I had a question. What does this Quote mean?: "From October 1, 2007, Geneon USA will focus mainly on management of its works portfolio." __________________

2007-11-29, 17:05	Link #146
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	It doesn't just mean "to sell their product licenses" ... they have works in progress that they appear to be trying to negotiate completion, release, and distribution agreements with other shops. Rereading their news releases ... I'm wondering if they're intent on just becoming a clearing house or "prime contractor" and all the actual work gets outsourced. __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2008-03-26, 06:27	Link #150
Seiryuu Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003	Concerning GENEON USA Licenses... I'm out of date on this, and there's probably a different thread somewhere I didn't look on it, but I'm curious about this. As I've heard it, Geneon USA has completely shut down. Some companies, like Funimation, are trying to acquire the licenses that Geneon either didn't start or didn't finish. Regardless, the licensing company seems to be no more, so my question is: of those licenses that have not yet had a single release, what is their status? I've heard of licenses being cancelled before, and I know how such a show's status is viewed on AS and the forums. But what of ZnT, Nanoha and Geneon's other recent buys? Please note, I am only asking about Geneon licenses that have not begun distribution yet and that have not been officially picked up by a different company. If my information is out of date and all their licenses have been reclaimed, then that's fine. I also know that most of the licenses, if not yet claimed, are likely targets for other companies to license and will probably be licensed soon. But, again, until officially transferred, what is the general view? note: I'm also disregarding issues with parent companies, such as MFI, since shows with such issues have the same status whether licensed or not.

2008-03-26, 17:13	Link #152
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	This is... so bloody strange. My 3 Karin volumes sitting their Karin artbox would really like to have the rest of their sisters join them. My fund for Nanoha is getting dusty.... The total lack of status doesn't improve my disposition. Here's a link to the last bit of information someone was able to spot (in February): http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...-geneon-titles __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2008-03-26, 19:08	Link #153
Kamui4356 Aria Company Join Date: Nov 2003	I really wish someone would take Nanoha off their hands already... It was one of the series I was looking foward to buying. On line of course, as I was certainly not looking forward to getting strange looks from the cashier at best buy. You'd think as an anime fan I'd be used to those strange looks. __________________

2008-03-26, 09:20	Link #151
bayoab Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003	All shows are still licensed by Geneon. They have just stopped releasing the DVDs. They are still working on production of the series (dubbing, subtitles) as they have contracts with other companies that require them to finish the work on them.

2008-03-26, 19:58	Link #154
Icehawk Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada Age: 42	So long as Black Lagoon and Higurashi get picked up I will be happy, those two shows simly MUST be finnished. Yeah, the silence on the status of this debacle is really annoying. Would have been nice if Funimation gave an update at that convention they were at recently.

2008-03-26, 22:30	Link #155
Seiryuu Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003	Sorry for making the new thread, I was looking for this in the license department. As I said, I have no doubt about stuff like Higurashi, where some of the series is complete. At that point, contracts and plans become harder to change. Prior to initial distribution, however, things are a little less certain. I understood, however, that no new productions would be produced and distributed, so it sounds like projects like Nanoha that are still in the earlier stages were simply cut. I just want to know how the "complete" shutdown of Geneon USA effects those. It could be that they're far enough along and have done enough work on the first volumes that contracts with other companies will require production or sale. On the other hand, depending on how far along production was, it could be like Mermaid Melody Pichi Pichi Pitch: work just stops and deals are voided. So, were the series they've been PLANNING but not yet PRODUCING completely dropped, or are there still some contractual obligations left?

2008-03-27, 00:18	Link #156
bayoab Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003	Production continued on all Geneon series. Even the ones they hadn't even started work on before closing. Also, it appears that the first true rescue has appeared as there is a post on the AnimeonDVD forums that Media Blasters has Seirei no Moribito. (Trailer is supposedly on Kite: Liberator DVD).