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GreyZone · 2017-11-08, 13:46

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Originally Posted by Dengar

That only justifies "it's not bad to watch Zero first". It does not justify "You must watch Zero first.".

And if you've gotten this far without watching Zero, why stop there? Why not watch things in the proper order?

Well, I only adressed the aspect of watching Zero first being OK. Of course watching Zero first is NOT a requirement. At least not as far as right now (who knows what the upcoming movies might pull).

I have gotten the impression from ufoUBW-related interviews that Nasu just wanted to seperate the stories, in other word making the order in which you watch it irrelevant because both are essentially self-contained stories, as far as Nasu is concerned.

Though one thing that you'll only understand in HF with knowledge from Zero (assuming someone is ufo-anime-only) is the Azoth dagger (IF it's not replaced for some reason). Otherwise it would just be some "random dagger" that Shirou gets from Rin. And who knows. Maybe they'll add in a scene like Kotomine after falling down due to "running out of time" gets finished by Shirou using the dagger. After all he has it and has literally NO REASON not to use it. Just to make sure he is REALLY dead this time. It's still strange to me that he didn't pull it out during the battle. Well one reason might be it being out of mana or something but still...

Dengar · 2017-11-08, 14:11

Isn't the Azoth dagger heavily featured in the finale of Fate?

chaos_alfa · 2017-11-08, 16:18

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Originally Posted by Dengar

Isn't the Azoth dagger heavily featured in the finale of Fate?

From what I remember, In Fate Shirou receives the dagger from Rin before he goes to confront Kotomine. I think he uses it to kill Kotomine in de final and Kotomine comments on it being ironic that he dies by same dagger which he used to kill Rin's father or something.

azenable · 2017-12-03, 12:56

watched it in the theatre today. have to say, didn't like the pacing. But great animation.

abc0716 · 2017-12-05, 11:09

Watched it earlier on at cinema, this route looks darker to watch, compare with Saber or UBW route....

Spoiler for Off-topic:

The Green One · 2017-12-05, 15:12

Heaven's Feel is indeed the darkest route out of the three.

Especially since you have to play the other 2 routes first to unlock this one so you're already intimately familiar with the characters.

cyberdemon · 2017-12-05, 15:21

Much darker with a lot more sadistic choices to make.

azenable · 2017-12-08, 20:11

sadly the movie didn't really bring out enough dark and sadistic element. might be due to rating...

The Green One · 2017-12-09, 01:57

It was my understanding that the movie hasn't gotten to the truly messy part of the route yet. That'll happen in Part 2 if I remember the route right, admittedly, it has been years.

cyberdemon · 2017-12-09, 02:37

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Originally Posted by azenable

sadly the movie didn't really bring out enough dark and sadistic element. might be due to rating...

This part of the route is sunshine and rainbows compared to what is about to come.

The Green One · 2017-12-09, 04:11

The death of Saber, a constant presence and source of support and protection in the other two routes and who's presence you've grown to take for granted, is the first shocking swerve of the route, the first sign that nothing is going to be the same anymore.....

DragoonKain3 · 2018-01-14, 19:46

Canadian premiere today. Overall, I'm a bit disappointed, but then again I already played the VN. I know first hand how people familiar with the source material always have qualms about the adaptation, but it really does feel unsatisfying. Fight scenes are the highlight as always, and they decently made things understandable even to the newbie viewer, but the climax didn't feel like a climax at all.

I suppose it is to be expected for a multi-part movie series, but all that said, I really do think Sakura's route is the penultimate route. I personally think Rin's the most waifu of the heroines, but I have always believed Shirou belongs together with Sakura, and I'm just thankful for the adaptation. Don't think my money was wasted, but I wouldn't rewatch this one until I can watch the trilogy all at the same time.

blitz1/2 · 2018-01-15, 18:06

I felt the Saber/ALter scene was a little too PEACEFUL/tranquil, I was kind of expecting like how Irisviel being dragged into darkness and as the taint ends with her becoming Alter.

seiftis · 2018-02-01, 06:07

Ah finally watched it in the cinema myself. Very nice quality as expected from ufotable. Glad they speed up the beginning part in that school and the whole getting contracted to Saber. We've watched that enough.

Do we have any release date rumor for part 2 though? Other than being in 2018

GreyZone · 2018-05-09, 00:59

The Blu-Ray version of the first movie was released today...

traviskeshav · 2018-05-10, 20:32

It has English subtitles, too. I watched the first 20 minutes or so, and was rather glad the Amazon listing was correct in that regard.

cyberdemon · 2018-05-11, 15:18

dub premiere is on June 5th in theaters

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/new...june-5/.130774

yay this time a theater close to me is actually showing it

Dengar · 2018-05-15, 16:30

I finally got my chance to view it as well.

Man, do I love Sakura. I love her so much.

This is the best route to me. It's the only route that is actually romantic.

Kanon · 2018-05-15, 17:57

I really liked the way they showed us how Sakura gradually managed to make a place for herself in Shirou's home, and in his heart.

Lancer vs True Assassin was a great fight. Perhaps too great. I thought they made True Assassin look more impressive than he is supposed to be.

Dengar · 2018-05-16, 05:46

To be fair, Assassin spent most of the fight avoiding attacks and running away. The few times he did attack, nothing happened.

I mean Assassins are still superhuman.

2017-12-05, 11:09	Link #3585
abc0716 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Age: 33	Watched it earlier on at cinema, this route looks darker to watch, compare with Saber or UBW route.... Spoiler for Off-topic: After I finish watching the movie, saw a group of (about 10-30) Japanese school-girls shopping when I buying groceries (while some are waiting outside the supermarket). Not sure are they having oversea school trip or studying at international school through...

2017-12-05, 15:12	Link #3586
The Green One Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010	Heaven's Feel is indeed the darkest route out of the three. Especially since you have to play the other 2 routes first to unlock this one so you're already intimately familiar with the characters. __________________

2017-12-05, 15:21	Link #3587
cyberdemon Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007	Much darker with a lot more sadistic choices to make. __________________

2017-12-09, 01:57	Link #3589
The Green One Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010	It was my understanding that the movie hasn't gotten to the truly messy part of the route yet. That'll happen in Part 2 if I remember the route right, admittedly, it has been years. __________________

2017-12-09, 04:11	Link #3591
The Green One Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010	The death of Saber, a constant presence and source of support and protection in the other two routes and who's presence you've grown to take for granted, is the first shocking swerve of the route, the first sign that nothing is going to be the same anymore..... __________________

2017-11-08, 14:11	Link #3582
Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	Isn't the Azoth dagger heavily featured in the finale of Fate?

2017-12-03, 12:56	Link #3584
azenable President of TecoT Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Singapore	watched it in the theatre today. have to say, didn't like the pacing. But great animation.

2017-12-08, 20:11	Link #3588
azenable President of TecoT Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Singapore	sadly the movie didn't really bring out enough dark and sadistic element. might be due to rating...

2018-01-14, 19:46	Link #3592
DragoonKain3 Osana-Najimi Shipper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mt. Ordeals	Canadian premiere today. Overall, I'm a bit disappointed, but then again I already played the VN. I know first hand how people familiar with the source material always have qualms about the adaptation, but it really does feel unsatisfying. Fight scenes are the highlight as always, and they decently made things understandable even to the newbie viewer, but the climax didn't feel like a climax at all. I suppose it is to be expected for a multi-part movie series, but all that said, I really do think Sakura's route is the penultimate route. I personally think Rin's the most waifu of the heroines, but I have always believed Shirou belongs together with Sakura, and I'm just thankful for the adaptation. Don't think my money was wasted, but I wouldn't rewatch this one until I can watch the trilogy all at the same time. __________________ Yes its YOU childhood friend - source of BERZERKER RAGE since forever Childhood Friend couple STATISTICS(spoilers abound though)

2018-01-15, 18:06	Link #3593
blitz1/2 Tenshi's Defense Squadron Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Fighting against those who oppress the system	I felt the Saber/ALter scene was a little too PEACEFUL/tranquil, I was kind of expecting like how Irisviel being dragged into darkness and as the taint ends with her becoming Alter. __________________ hai, hai. Onii-chan has his work cut out for him.

2018-02-01, 06:07	Link #3594
seiftis ~defying fate Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bodhum	Ah finally watched it in the cinema myself. Very nice quality as expected from ufotable. Glad they speed up the beginning part in that school and the whole getting contracted to Saber. We've watched that enough. Do we have any release date rumor for part 2 though? Other than being in 2018 __________________ Escaping reality

2018-05-09, 00:59	Link #3595
GreyZone "Senior" "Member" Join Date: Jan 2012	The Blu-Ray version of the first movie was released today... __________________

2018-05-10, 20:32	Link #3596
traviskeshav Junior Member Join Date: May 2011	It has English subtitles, too. I watched the first 20 minutes or so, and was rather glad the Amazon listing was correct in that regard.

2018-05-11, 15:18	Link #3597
cyberdemon Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007	dub premiere is on June 5th in theaters https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/new...june-5/.130774 yay this time a theater close to me is actually showing it __________________

2018-05-15, 16:30	Link #3598
Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	I finally got my chance to view it as well. Man, do I love Sakura. I love her so much. This is the best route to me. It's the only route that is actually romantic.

2018-05-15, 17:57	Link #3599
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	I really liked the way they showed us how Sakura gradually managed to make a place for herself in Shirou's home, and in his heart. Lancer vs True Assassin was a great fight. Perhaps too great. I thought they made True Assassin look more impressive than he is supposed to be. __________________

2018-05-16, 05:46	Link #3600
Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	To be fair, Assassin spent most of the fight avoiding attacks and running away. The few times he did attack, nothing happened. I mean Assassins are still superhuman.