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Haak · 2010-05-27, 06:20

^ Well that explains your avatar.

Nilie · 2010-05-27, 08:20

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Originally Posted by Haak

^ Well that explains your avatar.

Which is very pretty by the way and which I have stolen. :P

Daniel Lind · 2010-05-27, 08:26

Uh, novel covers artwork been up on the official website since September 2009.
I kinda butchered the whole thing by flipping it, but oh well.

Spoiler:

Its just you know, its always interesting to re-experience the same characters looking in a different way.
Isin did the same trick in other series of his, quite extensively too.

I also have a thing for short hair...

Master Chibi · 2010-05-27, 10:04

No way, she's a billion times better with long hair.

I AM MENTALLY DISTRAUGHT OVER HERE

D:

Vexx · 2010-05-27, 12:25

Quick... we need "fan support services" ... mental carnage in progress.

Shiroth · 2010-05-27, 12:40

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Originally Posted by Daniel Lind

Uh, novel covers artwork been up on the official website since September 2009.
I kinda butchered the whole thing by flipping it, but oh well.

It's easily my favorite official image. If you weren't using a part of it as your avatar, it would have been my sig.

Daniel Lind · 2010-05-27, 13:40

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It's easily my favorite official image. If you weren't using a part of it as your avatar, it would have been my sig.

Well then go ahead.

Shiroth · 2010-05-27, 14:12

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Originally Posted by Daniel Lind

Well then go ahead.

You didn't have to go and change it just because i said.

Daniel Lind · 2010-05-27, 15:16

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You didn't have to go and change it just because i said.

It can't be helped.

SquirrelLuvsPnut · 2010-05-27, 15:31

Togame mouse pad is up for buy's.
http://www.otacute.com/index.php?mai...oducts_id=6936

Also, a cafe event thingy is happening. Coaster thingys are shown.

momobunny · 2010-05-27, 18:03

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Originally Posted by Master Chibi

No way, she's a billion times better with long hair.

I AM MENTALLY DISTRAUGHT OVER HERE

D:

Same... the style doesn't suit her very well in my eyes.

maplehurry · 2010-05-27, 19:06

There's already tragedy when the 3 brotherly maniwa (though I only pity the last 2) got killed by Nanami.

pseudonhym · 2010-05-27, 22:51

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Originally Posted by momobunny

Same... the style doesn't suit her very well in my eyes.

I like Togame with long hair too. Although, maybe I'm weird cause i like Nanami more than Togame.

Daniel Lind · 2010-05-28, 00:45

I guess it's largely a matter of personal preference and getting used to.
I wouldn't go as far as to say that it doesn't fit her. There's just that... something... about it.

Spoiler for 12:

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Also, a cafe event thingy is happening. Coaster thingys are shown.

Oh yeah. From what I understood, so-called "ufotable cafe" is frequently doing promotions for various anime, screening already aired episodes and adding new specials to menu. Interesting stuff.

Shiroth · 2010-05-28, 03:26

I find that short hair suits Togame quite well, though i won't say which one i prefer until i've seen the short hair in action at a later date.

karice67 · 2010-05-28, 04:06

I like her with the short hair too. Though that may be because I like having short hair myself - even shorter than that if possible...

hai_san · 2010-05-28, 04:34

Finaly watched ep 5, my conclusion

1.Shichika is S and Togame is M

2.Maniwa Birdman psychological warfare against Togame especially "Cheerio" was awesome

3.Shichika is seriously STRONG

Sol Falling · 2010-05-28, 05:52

This show is terribly dirty, lol. It doesn't really get anywhere near being explicit, but it turns my pervert switch right on.

I can say that was pretty much the most successful aspect of this episode. From a certain perspective, that's a pretty significant downgrade in comparison to earlier episodes. Since those episodes aren't fresh in my mind though, and since none of them quite managed to reach or make me expect perfection anyway, I can say I fully enjoyed this one.

Some of you guys mentioned this episode focusing on character development...there was certainly some of that, though I feel more salient/interesting was the foreshadowing with the mysterious princess lady and new Maniwa dude who didn't even fight. However, what I want to bring up here is in relation to all the 'Shichika is a sociopath' talk going on earlier. Let's compare and contrast:

Shichika slew Meisai, an honourable warrior with good intentions, in an unnecessary battle to the death. Afterwards, when Togame came, he promptly cheerfully waved and smiled. Conversely, Togame seemed to regret her death.

On the other hand, in this episode here, Togame matter of factly proposes several fairly underhanded and gruesome strategies of death. Shichika in contrast is somewhat put off by them. What makes the difference?

lol, I suppose I'll just say straight up here that I rejected the idea of Shichika as a sociopath. Death is a somewhat malleable thing. Shichika actually comes off rather simply to me as someone for whom death, or more precisely the struggle for life, is a natural thing, such that failure or success in the course of it (a struggle) is simply a fact of existence. The unnatural struggle of a slow, helpless death like Togame describes thus freaks him out. Togame's attitude is contrastingly somewhat more interesting/contradictory, in that she seems to regret 'unnecessary' killings and yet can so easily default to such detached strategems as she demonstrated in this episode.

Haak · 2010-05-28, 06:17

If Shichika viewed life in such a way then why would he find underhanded and cruel methods unnatural? But actually, when we say Sociopath, what we really mean is that Shichika has little appreciation for human life. And what you've described essentially amounts to the same thing.

Togame says she can be very detached and make decisions like that but I think this episode proved that wasn't actually the case. She actually genuinley watched Shichika to win, even though it would be to her advantage for him to lose. She made lame excuses like 'I can't really trust him', contradicting her earlier point of being able to trust those that love her. She was actually a bit surprised when that Brid Ninja suggested he cut his own arm off and even told him not to. In fact, i thought the entire point of the episode was to set up Togame and practical and cruel and then promtly subvert it.

Daniel Lind · 2010-05-28, 07:19

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She made lame excuses like 'I can't really trust him', contradicting her earlier point of being able to trust those that love her.

Wouldn't that rather boil down to her doubt on whether he loves her or not?
I don't exactly see the contradiction.

Besides, she might also doubt herself. Described back in January as a "woman who closed her heart" she doesn't really care that much about love and, well, it shows, but you can only go so much under a pretense.

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Daniel Lind ロック・オン！ Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Nizhny Novgorod, Russia	Uh, novel covers artwork been up on the official website since September 2009. I kinda butchered the whole thing by flipping it, but oh well. Spoiler: Its just you know, its always interesting to re-experience the same characters looking in a different way. Isin did the same trick in other series of his, quite extensively too. I also have a thing for short hair...

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SquirrelLuvsPnut Kill on sight Join Date: Apr 2007	Togame mouse pad is up for buy's. http://www.otacute.com/index.php?mai...oducts_id=6936 Also, a cafe event thingy is happening. Coaster thingys are shown.

2010-05-27, 19:06	Link #1252
maplehurry Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007	There's already tragedy when the 3 brotherly maniwa (though I only pity the last 2) got killed by Nanami.

2010-05-28, 04:34	Link #1257
hai_san Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Germany	Finaly watched ep 5, my conclusion 1.Shichika is S and Togame is M 2.Maniwa Birdman psychological warfare against Togame especially "Cheerio" was awesome 3.Shichika is seriously STRONG

2010-05-28, 05:52	Link #1258
Sol Falling Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Age: 35	This show is terribly dirty, lol. It doesn't really get anywhere near being explicit, but it turns my pervert switch right on. I can say that was pretty much the most successful aspect of this episode. From a certain perspective, that's a pretty significant downgrade in comparison to earlier episodes. Since those episodes aren't fresh in my mind though, and since none of them quite managed to reach or make me expect perfection anyway, I can say I fully enjoyed this one. Some of you guys mentioned this episode focusing on character development...there was certainly some of that, though I feel more salient/interesting was the foreshadowing with the mysterious princess lady and new Maniwa dude who didn't even fight. However, what I want to bring up here is in relation to all the 'Shichika is a sociopath' talk going on earlier. Let's compare and contrast: Shichika slew Meisai, an honourable warrior with good intentions, in an unnecessary battle to the death. Afterwards, when Togame came, he promptly cheerfully waved and smiled. Conversely, Togame seemed to regret her death. On the other hand, in this episode here, Togame matter of factly proposes several fairly underhanded and gruesome strategies of death. Shichika in contrast is somewhat put off by them. What makes the difference? lol, I suppose I'll just say straight up here that I rejected the idea of Shichika as a sociopath. Death is a somewhat malleable thing. Shichika actually comes off rather simply to me as someone for whom death, or more precisely the struggle for life, is a natural thing, such that failure or success in the course of it (a struggle) is simply a fact of existence. The unnatural struggle of a slow, helpless death like Togame describes thus freaks him out. Togame's attitude is contrastingly somewhat more interesting/contradictory, in that she seems to regret 'unnecessary' killings and yet can so easily default to such detached strategems as she demonstrated in this episode.

2010-05-28, 06:17	Link #1259
Haak Me, An Intellectual Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: UK Age: 33	If Shichika viewed life in such a way then why would he find underhanded and cruel methods unnatural? But actually, when we say Sociopath, what we really mean is that Shichika has little appreciation for human life. And what you've described essentially amounts to the same thing. Togame says she can be very detached and make decisions like that but I think this episode proved that wasn't actually the case. She actually genuinley watched Shichika to win, even though it would be to her advantage for him to lose. She made lame excuses like 'I can't really trust him', contradicting her earlier point of being able to trust those that love her. She was actually a bit surprised when that Brid Ninja suggested he cut his own arm off and even told him not to. In fact, i thought the entire point of the episode was to set up Togame and practical and cruel and then promtly subvert it. __________________ MAL \| AnimeSuki Choice Awards 2020 Winners Last edited by Haak; 2010-05-28 at 09:06.