Code Geass (Generic discussion thread)

[eaglei3]

I think the above two pretty much pointed it out. I'd however like to add what keeps this fueled somewhat too is when the monthly magazines come out and add a few interviews here or there or some random thing with characters. Plus Sound episodes/picture dramas and whatever.

When the above occurs, we get:
1) People figuring out if it could make sense canonly or if it breaks down the 4th wall.
2) If it comes for a staff, we question the insanity of the staff member has half the people here take it as the word of God, while the other half of us think the staff member has lost it cause what they said makes no sense in what the presented us in the Anime. (Hell, some of us believe Okouchi's explanations of things are leaning on cop out and don't fit with what is presented at times.)
3) Discuss the crazyness of it just to discuss.

[Charred Knight]

Originally Posted by kir44n

Good God Reina. Your coloring makes me want to claw my eyes out O_o . In any case, Code Geass is nothing but a hot-bed of angst, shipping wars, and ambiguity. All of which can contribute easily to flame wars, vehement discussions, Intense debate, 4channery, and childish arguments.

For furthering this point, I will draw your attention to the fact that 2 of the 3 largest AS usergroups are completely Code Geass centric in nature (Lelouch's Awesome Hat Club & the Lelouch Lives! groups). These groups continue to grow even though the show ended close to 2 months ago.

As for the current argument on E.U & china's possible bad-assery...it wasn't really shown quite in depth enough for us to really get a feel for eithers position and how they got there.

Hell Lelouch Lives group continues to grow even though Lelouch is confirmed dead

Though you are right, I have never seen an anime series that leads to flame wars as easily as Code Geass. Its a very divided fanbase

The least they could have done is make a French joke about the E.U.

As for Badassery I don't know how you can call a one sided war anything less than pathetic. Its as bad as France's performance in World War II, and France is still being made fun of for that.

Originally Posted by eaglei3

I think the above two pretty much pointed it out. I'd however like to add what keeps this fueled somewhat too is when the monthly magazines come out and add a few interviews here or there or some random thing with characters. Plus Sound episodes/picture dramas and whatever.

When the above occurs, we get:
1) People figuring out if it could make sense canonly or if it breaks down the 4th wall.
2) If it comes for a staff, we question the insanity of the staff member has half the people here take it as the word of God, while the other half of us think the staff member has lost it cause what they said makes no sense in what the presented us in the Anime. (Hell, some of us believe Okouchi's explanations of things are leaning on cop out and don't fit with what is presented at times.)
3) Discuss the crazyness of it just to discuss.

I don't think I have ever seen anyone think that Okouchi has lost his mind. The only part I remember thinking Okouchi as giving a bad answer was the part where he stated that the situation is still tenuous because he thought an ending where everything is peaceful was unrealistic, when season 2 was largely unrealistic.

I just don't think anime and realistic should be mentioned in the same sentence unless the line is "Anime is not realistic".

For example I would have added a scene where Britannians watch Elevens fight to the death.

I will compliment him on stating that Lelouch is dead because in this day and age that takes balls. Normally you would just get some half ass answer because in case they bring Lelouch back they don't want someone to point out that they changed their minds.

[bladeofdarkness]

but if the britanninan DIDNT have the 7th gens then they would not have that big of an advantage
it wouldnt be that one sided

[Charred Knight]

Originally Posted by bladeofdarkness

but if the britanninan DIDNT have the 7th gens then they would not have that big of an advantage
it wouldnt be that one sided

Actually things went to hell as soon as 2 of the KoR showed up. Your point is still meaningless because Britannia was massively more powerful than the E.U, and the E.U would have been better off if the surrendered right off the bat.

Franly, I was just dissapointed that the war didn't have this huge epic feel of Western hemisphere vs. Eastern Hemisphere that I thought we where going to get.

It was stated that we would get a more world wide view of the place, and all we got was Xingke.

[bladeofdarkness]

why was the OOBK able to much britannia while the rest of the world couldnt
its not just ZERO you know
they had machines that could match up to britannina

[Charred Knight]

Originally Posted by bladeofdarkness

why was the OOBK able to much britannia while the rest of the world couldnt
its not just ZERO you know
they had machines that could match up to britannina

Creator Provincialism, since Code Geass is made for Japanese then it makes sense to have the Japanese be the good guys.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...rProvincialism

Probably the most infamous example is Independence Day which is borderline propaganda.

[NyxOne]

Uh...yeah. Did you expect the anime to devote four/five episodes to the EU and have them be the good guys? No. They're not the focus of the story.

[Charred Knight]

Originally Posted by NyxOne

Uh...yeah. Did you expect the anime to devote four/five episodes to the EU and have them be the good guys? No. They're not the focus of the story.

Have like three characters show up, and join the UFN. I mean if your going to tempt us with this idea that where going to get this huge war at least don't have the war be Japanese + Xingke vs. Britannia.

It's not a deal breaker just dissapointing. Like I said its no where as bad as Independence Day.

[NyxOne]

No, Independence Day is actually better, because it has the whole world uniting against the alien menace. Here, it's just a country getting the shaft.

Plus...we can't just have characters show up. They need to DO something. Dragging along an EU pilot and two officials or something into the cast for no reason just to give a shafted country more screentime is a stupid move.

[Spring_sakura111]

Lol. Guys from EU appear? They don't have anything to do with the Kuro no Kishidan. It's a waste of screen time. Not to mention they already have A LOT of characters to focus on.

[Charred Knight]

Originally Posted by Spring_sakura111

Lol. Guys from EU appear? They don't have anything to do with the Kuro no Kishidan. It's a waste of screen time. Not to mention they already have A LOT of characters to focus on.

Not really R2 only focused on Lelouch, Kallen, C.C, and Suzaku, the rest of the cast was never developed in R2, except for those who where offscreen like Cornelia, and Guilford.

[Spring_sakura111]

I'm not saying that they did focus on ALL those characters. What I'm meant was that they already have a lot of characters which means adding another one or two from EU would be a waste.

[NyxOne]

Plus, again, they have to do something.

[Charred Knight]

Originally Posted by NyxOne

Plus, again, they have to do something.

Toudoh didn't do a single thing in the episodes he was in except fighting, and causing the capture of nearly the entire Black Knights group.

Just have a bunch of EU and one ace show up and be badass in a fight.

[NyxOne]

Toudou was, despite his lack of action, a key member of the BKs. The EU guys can be as badass as they want- they'll die against the oncoming wrath of Britannia anyway.

[Charred Knight]

Originally Posted by NyxOne

Toudou was, despite his lack of action, a key member of the BKs. The EU guys can be as badass as they want- they'll die against the oncoming wrath of Britannia anyway.

I meant have some guys join the Black Knights to get rid of the whole race war thing we had the last episode.

[NyxOne]

Well...they did. Look at episode 17. One Hummel is amongst the Chinese and Japanese forces, and there are reports that Italy and Holland joined the UFN some episodes prior. Although no EU characters save a couple of generals had any semblance of screen time, the whole affair wasn't a total race war.

[Charred Knight]

Originally Posted by NyxOne

Well...they did. Look at episode 17. One Hummel is amongst the Chinese and Japanese forces, and there are reports that Italy and Holland joined the UFN some episodes prior. Although no EU characters save a couple of generals had any semblance of screen time, the whole affair wasn't a total race war.

For all extensive purposes it was, except for some extras the only whites where some Britannian Defectors and half of Kallen who is for all extensive purposes Japanese. The only asians on Britannian side was Suzaku.

I just wish the series had toned down that aspect of the series.

[NyxOne]

...Er...unless I'm colorblind, white people were...everywhere.

[Levy]

If you are talking about ethnic groups, the Britannians are for the major part caucasian. Villetta and Dorothea are probably afro-something/latinos.

In the Bk, beside japanese and chinese people, you have Diethard, that is caucasian and Rakshata that is indian.

Originally Posted by Charred Knight

I meant have some guys join the Black Knights to get rid of the whole race war thing we had the last episode.

It's hard to deny that there's enough mess already even withouth the EU, although I agree with you, you do not really have the sensation of 'internationality' looking at the BK XD;;

...ad for the last episode, maybe having also a lot of Brits chained in front of Lelouch and a glimpse of the quite heterogenic composition of Cornelia's pathetic cell could be read as an attempt to show that the barriers were broken due to emergency. But yeah, rushed. :/

Ps. what are you referring at saying that Todoh nearly had everyone captured?