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Velsy · 2013-02-02, 11:56

Hmm I see. I got confused there when they were calling them by actual names.

Yeah I was aware of the brainwashing. Half the reason I cant see them as heros.

Wysth · 2013-02-02, 18:14

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Originally Posted by ReaperxKingx

That could be a illustration mistake, even Sirzerch's power of destruction is Crimson. Rias' has a lot of Demonic power so that accounts for the black in the Death Ball and the Power of Destruction is the other part of the Death Ball.

Regarding cyberdemon's statement, I can see that very clearly but I think Rias' Death Ball won't go Kaboom when it hits something. I am taking the guess that Rias' Death Ball is like a ball that can be control and is continuous.

If she can control it it will be more technique rather then power, I agree with it being continous but I think the power is so enormous that even ise's armour won't be strong enough to defend from it.

serbian otaku #1 · 2013-02-02, 18:27

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Originally Posted by Wysth

If she can control it it will be more technique rather then power, I agree with it being continous but I think the power is so enormous that even ise's armour won't be strong enough to defend from it.

It's not armor that stops power of destruction, it's other power. Ise's armor couldn't even stop Milcas's PoD that even thought isn't as strong as strong as Rias's, is quite strong. I remember when Rias shot PoD at Kokabiel, he engulfed his arms with light to defend, so Ise would have to create an armor of power, like Sirzesch's serious mode.

chrono25 · 2013-02-02, 20:52

or use divine divide to weaken it if he can master it now with the new body!

serbian otaku #1 · 2013-02-02, 21:16

That's true. But he has to touch something or someone if he wants to weaken them. Even Vali had to touch him in JD, and he's the owner of DD. That's pretty big problem if he's against PoD, maybe if he could learn Half Dimension, he could use it against PoD.

NeutralZero · 2013-02-03, 00:20

The envoy of the vamps, Elmenhilde was it?
She's soooo infuriating...
The way she talks makes us want to route for the faction of Valerie...
It'll be also interesting if she is to be one of Ise's future piece, more so than Valerie even if she has the Sephiroth Grail...

malason13 · 2013-02-03, 00:30

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Originally Posted by NeutralZero

The envoy of the vamps, Elmenhilde was it?
She's soooo infuriating...
The way she talks makes us want to route for the faction of Valerie...
It'll be also interesting if she is to be one of Ise's future piece, more so than Valerie even if she has the Sephiroth Grail...

I know right? She maked me so angry!!! THIS TRULY THE FIRST TIME I HATED A WOMAN!

iK@r0s · 2013-02-03, 00:34

I actually like her that vampire...am i the only one?

cyberdemon · 2013-02-03, 00:35

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Originally Posted by serbian otaku #1

That's true. But he has to touch something or someone if he wants to weaken them. Even Vali had to touch him in JD, and he's the owner of DD. That's pretty big problem if he's against PoD, maybe if he could learn Half Dimension, he could use it against PoD.

Yeah. Vali's power is much worse than Ise's so there would have to be some kind of limitation otherwise he'd only have to stay far away and just keep doing that.

malason13 · 2013-02-03, 00:44

If there is no limitation to vali's power then clearly he will not get any challenged. And there will a few who wants to fight him.

XFire · 2013-02-03, 00:48

Well, now I know why n0m@n hated her so much.

malason13 · 2013-02-03, 00:49

Indeed you can't just like her. And as they say the first impression is very strong to a person.

Red_Zeal_Knight · 2013-02-03, 01:42

Wish Ise can go to vamps world and kick so asses and teach them to fear dragons there too

NeutralZero · 2013-02-03, 01:51

Some how she's kinda similar to Ravel when she was first introduced (our view)... maybe worst...
Probably one of the reason we wished for her to be one of Ise's possible harem/piece... just like Ravel...

sky black swordman · 2013-02-03, 01:55

I was shock to hear Elmenhilde talk to Ise, The Sekiryuutei, the way that she did.
Know your place Vampire, a Heavenly Dragon who possess the power of the Dream and the Infinite is on a higher level than you.

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I actually like her that vampire...am i the only one?

Most likely.

n0m@n · 2013-02-03, 02:24

Also the way how half-vampires are born scares me.
I mean, they kidnap and basically rape the human woman, then the woman ends up being pregnant. They are using them for their "pleasure" after all.

Luckily this is the first and last part where we see Vampires in this volume.
Next is the magicians~! But before that comes the bathing with Ravel~! You will laugh what happens at the end of that scene.

iK@r0s · 2013-02-03, 02:40

@sky
haha i like character with strange personalities

@n0m@n
base on myths vampires like to rape virgin women so maybe that's it

Chimurry · 2013-02-03, 02:44

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Originally Posted by n0m@n

Also the way how half-vampires are born scares me.
I mean, they kidnap and basically rape the human woman, then the woman ends up being pregnant. They are using them for their "pleasure" after all.

Luckily this is the first and last part where we see Vampires in this volume.
Next is the magicians~! But before that comes the bathing with Ravel~! You will laugh what happens at the end of that scene.

Well, I support Zenovia and Irina being Vamps hunters...

Tchadnis · 2013-02-03, 03:40

yeah this vampire is something else , im agree they can hunt her with no problem .. wouldnt be a big loss if you ask me .. lol

DarkSkiper · 2013-02-03, 03:56

Anyone knows Van Helsing's number?

Now, I hope the next important new character we meet will be a Vampire Hunter... Maybe the person Sona originally wanted to make her knight?

Anyway, with how the vampires act, I'm surprised they weren't wiped out yet. Are other factions ignoring them or are they truly that bothersome to deal with? Makes the vampire hunters go up in my eye's.

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serbian otaku #1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Black Hole	That's true. But he has to touch something or someone if he wants to weaken them. Even Vali had to touch him in JD, and he's the owner of DD. That's pretty big problem if he's against PoD, maybe if he could learn Half Dimension, he could use it against PoD. __________________

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n0m@n C-Z Join Date: Jan 2011	Also the way how half-vampires are born scares me. I mean, they kidnap and basically rape the human woman, then the woman ends up being pregnant. They are using them for their "pleasure" after all. Luckily this is the first and last part where we see Vampires in this volume. Next is the magicians~! But before that comes the bathing with Ravel~! You will laugh what happens at the end of that scene. __________________

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Velsy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008	Hmm I see. I got confused there when they were calling them by actual names. Yeah I was aware of the brainwashing. Half the reason I cant see them as heros.

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chrono25 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012	or use divine divide to weaken it if he can master it now with the new body!

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NeutralZero Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Earth	The envoy of the vamps, Elmenhilde was it? She's soooo infuriating... The way she talks makes us want to route for the faction of Valerie... It'll be also interesting if she is to be one of Ise's future piece, more so than Valerie even if she has the Sephiroth Grail...

2013-02-03, 00:34	Link #988
iK@r0s Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Beyond the horizon	I actually like her that vampire...am i the only one?

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Red_Zeal_Knight Member Join Date: Nov 2012	Wish Ise can go to vamps world and kick so asses and teach them to fear dragons there too

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NeutralZero Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Earth	Some how she's kinda similar to Ravel when she was first introduced (our view)... maybe worst... Probably one of the reason we wished for her to be one of Ise's possible harem/piece... just like Ravel...

2013-02-03, 02:40	Link #997
iK@r0s Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Beyond the horizon	@sky haha i like character with strange personalities @n0m@n base on myths vampires like to rape virgin women so maybe that's it

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Tchadnis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013	yeah this vampire is something else , im agree they can hunt her with no problem .. wouldnt be a big loss if you ask me .. lol __________________

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DarkSkiper Evil Mage Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: There...no, not there.Yes, there! Age: 32	Anyone knows Van Helsing's number? Now, I hope the next important new character we meet will be a Vampire Hunter... Maybe the person Sona originally wanted to make her knight? Anyway, with how the vampires act, I'm surprised they weren't wiped out yet. Are other factions ignoring them or are they truly that bothersome to deal with? Makes the vampire hunters go up in my eye's. __________________