2004-06-06, 01:37 | Link #421 | |
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Good to see you gave up on your argument because it was pointless I agree that Itachi would own Neji, I would hope so as well, seeing as Itachi is a high level Jounin and Neji is just a Gennin, it would be kind of sad. I agree Neji would Own Sasuke as well. Most likeley Itachi can go with Hiashi, but I won't give judgement myself until I see Hiashi in an actual fight, not a 3 second Kaiten spin. |
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Before we start arguing in circles I'd like to point out that many of the arguements I made were against assumptions made by a Sharingan supporter about Sasuke being more powerful then Neji and an heir to the Uchiha blood being more powerful then an heir to the Hyuuga blood. I know we are talking about the bloodline and not the user, I was simply making those points to disprove the above two points.
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You seem to be confused on how I come to my opinions. 1. I read the manga. 2. I make opinions based on the facts in the manga. 3. I apply my opinions to the situtaion we are debating. Any argument you all have presented that had basis in fact I haven't called an assumption. They are valid opinoins and I will debate them. The ones I won't debate are the ones that come out of left field and that are complete speculation. Quote:
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"Yes but the Byakugan style is based on the very basics of how each shinobi fights. Everyone uses chakra and no one can train the inside of their body. Therefore everyone is susceptible to it. Some have defenses against it, but no one is immune to it. The Sharingan is more versatile but not as powerful." " Spoiler:
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2004-06-06, 01:48 | Link #424 |
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Just hit me I was thinkin since remember Itachi kept saying or was implying i dont have time for you sasuke doesnt it seem that hes sorta trying to make it up to his brother (in some weird twisted way). Also technically if he kills off his clan he wont have to worry about other intervining or more Sharingan ppl. Last edited by F!reStr!fe; 2004-06-06 at 01:59. |
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"Yes but the Sharingan techniques are based on the very basics of how each shinobi fights. Everyone has a face, and a face can have a chidori shoved into it. Therefore everyone is susceptible to it. Some have defenses against it, but no one is immune to it. The Sharingan is more versatile and more powerful." I continue to contend that merely stating the strengths of the Byakugan does not prove that it is more powerful. Sharingan let's you use Chidori, Amaterasu, and Tsukiyomi. How can you PROVE that jyuuken is more powerful than these? Verastility, however, is something we can prove. Just look at all the myriad types of ninjas out there, and ask how many could incorporate Sharingan into their style without changing it significantly, and how many could incorporate Byakugan? |
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2004-06-06, 21:12 | Link #434 | |
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Amaterasu is granted to a true sucessor of sharingan, i.e. Itachi. |
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2004-06-06, 23:54 | Link #435 | |
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Sasuke couldn't use his Sharingan in a useful way because he was too slow. You once again confond the bloodline and the user. Then for the Byakugan being more powerful than the Sharingan, how that? There is no attack directly connected to the Byakugan contrary to the Sharingan. The weapon allowed by the Byakugan is the Jyuken, a fighting style allowing to wound heavely and even kill in the worst case with a slight touch. The Jyuken is surely an incredible fighting style, actually I think that the advanced Jyuken of Neji (with the Tenketsu) is the best and deadliest Taijutsu style of the whole serie. But the 1 hit kills isn't reserved to the Hyuga, and I don't speak of limited use jutsu such as the Chidori or the Rasengan. Spoiler:
And that's just a hand seals, something that a Sharingan user can copy in a glance. Actually it's that simple : imagine a fight of pure Taijutsu and nothing else between Sasuke and Neji, who will win? I think about everybody will admit that Neji would win without a doubt. Now let Sasuke sees the CS with his Sharingan once. Now who will win? I wouldn't bet much on Neji anymore, in a glance Sasuke would become about the equal of Neji in Taijutsu. That's something that I call power. |
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2004-06-07, 00:13 | Link #436 | |
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Also I just remembered this doesnt The Byakugan need hand seals i swore i saw Neji and Hinata use Hand seals to do the technique. So that would be one of the down falls of the Byakugan,... |
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2004-06-07, 02:24 | Link #437 |
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I've seen Byakugan activated without the handseal, e.g. Hizashi when he was ...i dunno what he was trying to do. I'd say "giving Hinata a nasty look," but then someone might get the wrong idea I could have sworn I saw Neji go Byakugan without it too. Maybe the amateurs need the handseals but the experts can just activate it automatically. Now back to lurking in the murky depths....*slither*
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2004-06-07, 02:54 | Link #438 | |
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Sasuke activated his Sharingan without any hand seals as well. Even if the Byakugan absolutely required seals, how is that a downfall? It's not like it can be copied. Spoiler:
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2004-06-07, 03:55 | Link #439 | |
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Most of the time Neji doesn't do any handseals (Forest of Death, Fighting Naruto) Neither does Hinata (Forest of Death, and Neji fight) Who really knows But say it does REQUIRE handseals, I don't see how this would be a downfall, seeing as you can't copy the Byakugan with the Sharingan, and the handseal takes less than a second to do. Spoiler:
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