Accel World - Anime General Discussion

[GDB]

Poor Haru. If he had stayed quiet about his suspicions just a little longer, he would've gotten a loli in the tub with him.

[Sixth]

Is Kuroyukihime jealous of Niko or she was just angry and worry about Accel World after Haru told her about yesterday incident?

[mechalord]

Is there a twist later on where Haru was the actual first Red King?

Was he the red king as little kid but had his mind wiped and forgot all about Accel Word? Then Black Lotus finds a loophole and decides to reintroduce him to a game he used be a part of out of guilt?

That would explain some things...

She gets sad when Red Rider is mentioned and then Haru swears he'll never fight her. He has those wings, too. Kind of like an angel or phoenix. Maybe like he was reborn or something... imagery.

[thundrakkon]

Originally Posted by noobita

Is Kuroyukihime jealous of Niko or she was just angry and worry about Accel World after Haru told her about yesterday incident?

I'm pretty sure KYH was jealous and unnerved by the whole bath incident.

Originally Posted by mechalord

Is there a twist later on where Haru was the actual first Red King?

Was he the red king as little kid but had his mind wiped and forgot all about Accel Word? Then Black Lotus finds a loophole and decides to reintroduce him to a game he used be a part of out of guilt?

That would explain some things...

She gets sad when Red Rider is mentioned and then Haru swears he'll never fight her. He has those wings, too. Kind of like an angel or phoenix. Maybe like he was reborn or something... imagery.

I doubt Haru is the former Red King just due to the fact that once Brain Burst is uninstalled, it can no longer be reinstalled. Black Lotus did a straight normal install, so it did not look like foul play.

Plus, Haru is silver in color, and the Red King was... well... red. I'm quite sure it is safe to assume that Haru and the former Red King are not one and the same.

She gets sad because she probably has some regret as to how she handled the situation at that time. The Red King had a girlfriend, who was the Purple King. If she knows them in real life, then there could be a more complicated story or situation (maybe a reverse Haru/Taku/Chiyu situation).

[mechalord]

Originally Posted by thundrakkon

I'm pretty sure KYH was jealous and unnerved by the whole bath incident.



I doubt Haru is the former Red King just due to the fact that once Brain Burst is uninstalled, it can no longer be reinstalled. Black Lotus did a straight normal install, so it did not look like foul play.

Plus, Haru is silver in color, and the Red King was... well... red. I'm quite sure it is safe to assume that Haru and the former Red King are not one and the same.

She gets sad because she probably has some regret as to how she handled the situation at that time. The Red King had a girlfriend, who was the Purple King. If she knows them in real life, then there could be a more complicated story or situation (maybe a reverse Haru/Taku/Chiyu situation).

Of course, Red Rider could have been her brother or twin brother... someone close to her. Who knows?

Even though it has been stated that the program can not be reinstalled... it could be one of those cases that it's not the whole story. Maybe what is meant is that the previous memories and the previous avatar can not be reinstalled as they were and there is period it can not be reinstalled.

Black Lotus "killed" Red Rider years before the story, it appears.

If Haru would have been purged it could have been back when he was 10 or 11. Despite formerly being Red Rider he could have "reincarnated" as Silver Crow... a new avatar if it were possible.

Just saying... his avatar has wings and Black Lotus does get really sad around him.

[Xaturas]

Originally Posted by mechalord

Black Lotus "killed" Red Rider years before the story, it appears.

Not really. Dunno as I didn't read the novel. But they are kids.
How many years it could be 1, 2 maybe 3-4 at max. So its not so long ago.

[Guido]

The traps laid for Haru couldn't have gotten more literally as the title suggested for the eighth episode.

The supposedly cute, elementary grader, and second-cousin to Haru, whom she cuddly home baked cookies for him and wanted to take a bath, underneath that cute exterior laid dormant a very GAR Yandere.

Spoiler:

Fake Tomoko was just cutely badass shooting those insane and twisted faces at Haru, and particularly when she threatened to kill him in Burst Link due to him accidentally touching her "treasures".

The 2nd Red King lives to the reputation of an insane, powerhouse King.

The immobile Fortress with ridiculously, HAXX-powered anti-aircraft and offensive power, and let's not forget the fact she wears humongous and massive Fortress to protect her avatar.

Now things to like joining the discussion about Kuroyukihime's concern. We can't be so absolutely sure that Kuroyukihime just feels bad for the course of action she took back then to destroy the 1st Red King a couple of years ago.
Maybe she's been regretting all this time, because Red Rider might have been or not someone she knew....
Or maybe she's concerned for the fact that if it comes to worst the possibility of her betraying Haru could become true, taking the way she handled things with Red Rider in the past.

[thundrakkon]

Originally Posted by mechalord

Even though it has been stated that the program can not be reinstalled... it could be one of those cases that it's not the whole story. Maybe what is meant is that the previous memories and the previous avatar can not be reinstalled as they were and there is period it can not be reinstalled.

Black Lotus "killed" Red Rider years before the story, it appears.

If Haru would have been purged it could have been back when he was 10 or 11. Despite formerly being Red Rider he could have "reincarnated" as Silver Crow... a new avatar if it were possible.

Just saying... his avatar has wings and Black Lotus does get really sad around him.

I understand your line of thought in this, but it is still difficult to be convinced. First off, it was KYH herself that stated that once you lose Brain Burst, you lose the program forever. It would not make sense for her to tell Haru that if he was the former Red King. Also, the fact that the avatars are created in the image of your fears and weaknesses, it stands to figure that unless Haru completely changes his personality over the course of this short time, his avatar would not change in its looks either.

Also, I don't think KYH gets sad around Haru. I think she gets sad whenever Red Rider is mention. In many respects, she feels regret.

Originally Posted by Xaturas

Not really. Dunno as I didn't read the novel. But they are kids.
How many years it could be 1, 2 maybe 3-4 at max. So its not so long ago.

From what I recall, it was 2 to 2.5 years ago when she killed Red Rider.

Originally Posted by Guido

Now things to like joining the discussion about Kuroyukihime's concern. We can't be so absolutely sure that Kuroyukihime just feels bad for the course of action she took back then to destroy the 1st Red King a couple of years ago.
Maybe she's been regretting all this time, because Red Rider might have been or not someone she knew....
Or maybe she's concerned for the fact that if it comes to worst the possibility of her betraying Haru could become true, taking the way she handled things with Red Rider in the past.

I agree here. I did remark earlier that Haru gave her an oath to never fight Black Lotus, but she did not give him the same assurance in the end. Furthermore, she also mentioned that all other burst linkers are considered her enemy. Hence, that meant that she also must have betrayed the members of her own legion, or possibly that they turned against her.

[Cosmic Eagle]

Also best part of ep = Niko with her hair undone....how pretty...


And of course ORE NO IMOUTO GA KONNA NI KAWAII WAKE GA NAI!!!!

[Patriot's Blade]

Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

And of course ORE NO IMOUTO GA KONNA NI KAWAII WAKE GA NAI!!!!

also the epic Itano Circus scene!!

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by DRAGUN H.E.X.

also the epic Itano Circus scene!!

Hell yeah, that too...

[Haak]

There is obviously something about the Red Rider that we're going to find out later, but my guess is simply that the Rider Rider was KYH's "parent". Haru was going on about "parents and children not fighting" and I thought that was the clue.

[FlameSparkZ]

Originally Posted by mechalord

Is there a twist later on where Haru was the actual first Red King?

Was he the red king as little kid but had his mind wiped and forgot all about Accel Word? Then Black Lotus finds a loophole and decides to reintroduce him to a game he used be a part of out of guilt?

That would explain some things...

She gets sad when Red Rider is mentioned and then Haru swears he'll never fight her. He has those wings, too. Kind of like an angel or phoenix. Maybe like he was reborn or something... imagery.

Originally Posted by thundrakkon

I doubt Haru is the former Red King just due to the fact that once Brain Burst is uninstalled, it can no longer be reinstalled. Black Lotus did a straight normal install, so it did not look like foul play.

Plus, Haru is silver in color, and the Red King was... well... red. I'm quite sure it is safe to assume that Haru and the former Red King are not one and the same.

She gets sad because she probably has some regret as to how she handled the situation at that time. The Red King had a girlfriend, who was the Purple King. If she knows them in real life, then there could be a more complicated story or situation (maybe a reverse Haru/Taku/Chiyu situation).

Originally Posted by mechalord

Of course, Red Rider could have been her brother or twin brother... someone close to her. Who knows?

Even though it has been stated that the program can not be reinstalled... it could be one of those cases that it's not the whole story. Maybe what is meant is that the previous memories and the previous avatar can not be reinstalled as they were and there is period it can not be reinstalled.

Black Lotus "killed" Red Rider years before the story, it appears.

If Haru would have been purged it could have been back when he was 10 or 11. Despite formerly being Red Rider he could have "reincarnated" as Silver Crow... a new avatar if it were possible.

Just saying... his avatar has wings and Black Lotus does get really sad around him.

Originally Posted by thundrakkon

I understand your line of thought in this, but it is still difficult to be convinced. First off, it was KYH herself that stated that once you lose Brain Burst, you lose the program forever. It would not make sense for her to tell Haru that if he was the former Red King. Also, the fact that the avatars are created in the image of your fears and weaknesses, it stands to figure that unless Haru completely changes his personality over the course of this short time, his avatar would not change in its looks either.

Also, I don't think KYH gets sad around Haru. I think she gets sad whenever Red Rider is mention. In many respects, she feels regret.

AH! My fanfic plot...you're getting to it
(Though, it's completely unrelated to Haru and Red Rider )

Originally Posted by Haak

There is obviously something about the Red Rider that we're going to find out later, but my guess is simply that the Rider Rider was KYH's "parent". Haru was going on about "parents and children not fighting" and I thought that was the clue.

It is possible...which would be a good reason for her to feel guilty.
But if that was the case, wouldn't Red Rider's real self take revenge on her?
Unless, she ran away to another town to hide

As for my opinion on ep 8: It was good. But the "level 2 to level 4" timeskip is a bit sudden for me...makes it feel like this season is only 12 episodes long

[Kakkou]

New OP/ED have just been announced on twitter:

OP2: "Burst The Gravity" by ALTIMA
ED2: "Unite" by Sachika Misawa (Kuroyukihime)

I'll miss the May'n OP since ALTIMA doesn't really stand out to me. Kuroyukihime's ED should be interesting.

[orpheus2]

Interesting.

I listened to ALTIMA and I am somewhat impressed. Let's hope for the best.

I am more interested in the ED.

I guess they will change at episode 13 then. Which features that arc...

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by Kakkou

New OP/ED have just been announced on twitter:

OP2: "Burst The Gravity" by ALTIMA
ED2: "Unite" by Sachika Misawa (Kuroyukihime)

I'll miss the May'n OP since ALTIMA doesn't really stand out to me. Kuroyukihime's ED should be interesting.

I like Kurosaki's voice so I'm looking forward to it...

But while Kuroyukihime ED would be interesting I'd rather have more KOTOKO...

[mechalord]

Originally Posted by FlameSparkZ

AH! My fanfic plot...you're getting to it
(Though, it's completely unrelated to Haru and Red Rider )


It is possible...which would be a good reason for her to feel guilty.
But if that was the case, wouldn't Red Rider's real self take revenge on her?
Unless, she ran away to another town to hide

As for my opinion on ep 8: It was good. But the "level 2 to level 4" timeskip is a bit sudden for me...makes it feel like this season is only 12 episodes long

Red Rider "died." He was decapitated by Black Lotus at Level 9 and lost all of his points. He would never seek revenge because he would have lost all of his memories involving Brain Burst.

The people hunting Black Lotus are Red King's former associates and followers. Most of them probably didn't even know who Red King was, as most of them keep their real identities private from one another.

Originally Posted by thundrakkon

I understand your line of thought in this, but it is still difficult to be convinced. First off, it was KYH herself that stated that once you lose Brain Burst, you lose the program forever. It would not make sense for her to tell Haru that if he was the former Red King. Also, the fact that the avatars are created in the image of your fears and weaknesses, it stands to figure that unless Haru completely changes his personality over the course of this short time, his avatar would not change in its looks either.

Also, I don't think KYH gets sad around Haru. I think she gets sad whenever Red Rider is mention. In many respects, she feels regret.



From what I recall, it was 2 to 2.5 years ago when she killed Red Rider.

Once Red Rider was dead and Brain Burst deleted... the person behind the Red Rider would change. They would have gaps in their memory and probably have trouble figuring out how they had changed. His personality would probably change and if they were to rejoin the game... they would probably show up with a different avatar.



I was just thinking of the story in KOTOR... Darth Revan. Maybe this series could go there.

Maybe the old Haru was confident and bold. Maybe this is why Takumu thought he had to go to such lengths to excel... maybe he tried to be like the old Haru or something.

Also, Haru is known as the Silver Crow. Crows are often associated with death and the afterlife. Silver Crow also looks angelic.

The twist would add some drama because Haru has been professing his loyalty to Black Lotus and credits her for changing his life. But what if, he's actually emotionally invested in the girl who "killed" him?

[FlameSparkZ]

Originally Posted by mechalord

Red Rider "died." He was decapitated by Black Lotus at Level 9 and lost all of his points. He would never seek revenge because he would have lost all of his memories involving Brain Burst.

The people hunting Black Lotus are Red King's former associates and followers. Most of them probably didn't even know who Red King was, as most of them keep their real identities private from one another.

Once Red Rider was dead and Brain Burst deleted... the person behind the Red Rider would change. They would have gaps in their memory and probably have trouble figuring out how they had changed. His personality would probably change and if they were to rejoin the game... they would probably show up with a different avatar.

Huh?
Is that from the novel? I haven't read much of it, but erasing the loser's memories seems a tad too much
I think it was mentioned somewhere that "Even if a former Burst Linker tried to talk about it (to an adult?), no one would believe him and dismiss it as a child's fantasy".

Originally Posted by mechalord

Also, Haru is known as the Silver Crow. Crows are often associated with death and the afterlife. Silver Crow also looks angelic.

Often, but not always. In some cultures they represent wisdom, as they can be quite intelligent.

[wandering-dreamer]

I would've guessed that Red Rider was KYH's "parent" as well but I could've sworn I saw a quote about them that doesn't quite match up.

Regardless, just noticed that the ED changed a little bit, Taku is now wearing his new uniform and glasses which I thought was a nice touch. Also, is Scarlet Rain (is her name actually Niko?) really an elementary schooler? I noticed she seems to be in an elementary school uniform in the ED but her real personality makes me wonder about that.

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by wandering-dreamer

I would've guessed that Red Rider was KYH's "parent" as well but I could've sworn I saw a quote about them that doesn't quite match up.

Regardless, just noticed that the ED changed a little bit, Taku is now wearing his new uniform and glasses which I thought was a nice touch. Also, is Scarlet Rain (is her name actually Niko?) really an elementary schooler? I noticed she seems to be in an elementary school uniform in the ED but her real personality makes me wonder about that.

Is a plot point actually...

I'm more amazed how hot she is for a 12 year old....dammit she's like Kanoe Yuuko in that sense....