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I do think the idea of such a device having the power to "recycle" an existing Enhanced Armament is cool. Though I think such a power would require devoting another Level Upgrade to the device on top of the Upgrade needed to get the crafting device in the first place. As to the idea that Brain Burst might feature "crafting materials", I suggested that these things would ONLY appear to an avatar who had a "crafting device". That is, I don't think Brain Burst normally includes such things at all. Rather than looking at it as "Enemies now drop mats", look at it as, "This crafting hammer now sometimes randomly generates a mat whenever you kill an Enemy". So it's a property of the crafting device rather than of the game as a whole. |
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So taking it all together, Lisbeth is an Avatar, probably bluish, who crafts swords with her EA [Genesis Hammer]. She crafts by spending BBs and/or crafting materials, then hitting empty space with her hammer. To gather materials for special crafts, she has to: 1. Kill Enemy with the hammer 2. Acquire a drop or item --> smash it with hammer --> use item that drops out to reforge the EA into something stronger, or combine with other items to forge a new melee EA 3. Smash special pieces of terrain in the UNF and that may yield something useful 4. Occasionally, smashing a player with a blow that defeats him (doesn’t have to permakill him) may drop an item that is used for crafting an EA somewhat related to that player? Okay, so Gold Cub walks into a shop and asks Oyster Smith to craft an EA for him, and he proceeds to break one of her EAs...
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Name: Red Ray (tentative)
Color: Red (tentative) Legion: Black Focus: Mobility, Range, Firepower Appearance: 1. average human girl size 2. body suit 3. helmet (most of the face can be seen through) Parametres: 1. fast, agile 2. no armor 3. only one offensive skill (long range beam Radial Burst) 4. Radial Burst fired only from left hand I've been working on it for a long time, but this is the best I could iron out for now.
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2013-08-11, 06:42 | Link #565 |
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Unrelated but you know I'm Box, right Meister?
Another one I was able to clear through, this time the pseudo-antagonist. Name: Gold Rush Color: Metal (Gold) Legion: Metal Focus: Fast, Strong, Tough, 'Close' range Charger Type Appearance: 1. 7 feet tall 2. centaur 3. Pre-Industrial European Armour Parametres: 1. very fast because of charge, but little to no agility 2. armour is thick, but legs are unarmoured 3. size gives good range despite mostly melee 4. lance in left hand for piercing and throwing 5. sword in right hand for slashing and guarding Gold Rush, a former rising Avatar in the White Legion, took over what was the Red Legion's territory after Red Rider's suicide and the disbandment of Prominence. Despite being King of the relatively new Metal Legion, he refuses to level up beyond 8.
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...USODA!!
Ahem, well, I guess that means most of ISOC has revived... Quote:
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2013-08-11, 07:38 | Link #567 |
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I actually don't have a very clear grasp on Gold Cub's parametres despite following since page 1.
Though I remember you mentioning somewhere that the Avatar was born from greed? Or maybe it was desire. Gold Rush was born from a personality that charges directly at all obstacles.
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But Enhanced Armaments are much bigger deals in Accel World than weapons are in other games, being far more rare and expensive. Quote:
Also, wouldn't breaking an Enhanced Armament just reset it to an item card at worst? As with the Mystic Reins? Anyway, I recently thought of a new ability, similar to the crafting device. Instead of making new Enhanced Armaments, you make new Special Attacks. You can't sell these, of course. It would be like the Original Sword Arts systems from New ALO, where players can design their own Sword Art attacks. Probably, the special attacks designed by this Burst Linker would need to be limited to work with a particular range of combat, or a particular class of weapon. Perhaps the ability is embodied in an Enhanced Armament sword that offers you the chance to buy new Special Attacks which become unlocked after defeating certain enemies. Of course, if this ability is within the sword, then the Burst Linker might be completely incapable of using these extra Special Attacks if he tried using the Impulse or the Infinity. Because you don't simply REPLACE weapons in Accel World; not when a weapon can represent so much of your avatar's invested potential. |
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That would be an example of "That's from SAO!... and Accel World ensues." Like how Haruyuki spouts that famous line from SAO that sparks a similar misunderstanding. That's how I intended to have these little easter eggs. Quote:
The sword itself would be hot property as it can unlock additional skills in an avatar after using it in certain situations. The sword itself can then be traded off while the Avatar continues to improve the new special they've unlocked. This is further balanced by dividing points between the special attacks they have, ensuring that no one can have a bazillion maxed out specials.
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That wasn't the idea.
The idea was that the avatar itself would have the power to buy new special attacks without leveling up, or that a special evolving weapon could be upgraded without leveling up. I never considered the possibility of a sword that enables direct upgrades of the avatar itself. (Not that it's necessarily a bad idea.) |
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Yes, the avatar has desire, fear, grief, loss and the greed that comes from compensating for all that. But the kid still has a brain, so he doesn't openly show it like a card-carrying villain. Quote:
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2013-08-11, 20:19 | Link #572 |
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I could see Blue Knight having the inherent ability to spend Burst Points to create new "Sword Art" Special Attacks for himself.
Or if not him, then Graphite Edge. At the same time, developing new super attacks for swords could also be accomplished through the Incarnate System, which both of those swordsmen would have mastered. In the end, though, the idea may simply be too broken. See, it lacks the limitations that Red Rider's device had. Rider could only hold a certain number of guns at once, for instance, and could lose them if they were knocked away or destroyed in a fight. But Special Attacks inside the avatar can be without number and cannot be so easily disarmed. There is also no evidence that the game allows Burst Linkers to upgrade Enhanced Armaments without leveling up (otherwise Sky Raker would have done so for the Gale Thruster). Maybe Red Rider could improve existing weapons, or maybe he was forced to create a completely new one each time. |
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But they'd all be level 1 and the avatar only has so many points to upgrade them. Having lots of Specials will give him versatility, but a lot of them will have minimal combat power or saddled with long cooldowns, for example, because they are all level 1.
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You can't go to a Shop to buy new Special Attacks for your avatar. |
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Black Lotus only chose close-range, single-target special attacks originating from her sword-limbs; very specialized. She had options for long-range attacks and Enhanced Armaments, but rejected them all. Cyan Pile chose Lightning Cyan Spike, a long-range attack that extended beyond his specialty of mid-range combat. In defiance of his direct-damage coloration, his choice of Spiral Gravity Driver is as much an indirect attack that also pushes an enemy away instead of focusing on inflicting injury. Splash Stinger is an attack which forsakes his Pile-Driver instead of improving on it, which at least the other two attacks can claim. (His fourth Special Attack is unknown, and the author may have forgotten that he's supposed to have one.) So, Cyan Pile not only refused to upgrade his basic starting abilities with passive bonises, he didn't choose any Special Attacks which worked within his intended specialty. Personally, I blame Cyan Pile's parent, who was apparently an idiot. Last edited by Sunder the Gold; 2013-08-12 at 11:11. |
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2013-08-12, 20:21 | Link #579 | |
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And there are effectively only eight Bonus choices, at most, since no one reaches Level 10, and there's no choice for Level 1. At Level 5, Silver Crow has already chosen half of the upgrades he can ever recieve. There are only four possible choices left. Black Lotus also claimed that reaching as far as Level 9 would take considerable grinding in the Unlimited Neutral Field, which seems to be how she and the other Kings made it. It only took Lotus two years in the real world, but how many decades or even centuries in the Accelerated one? It's possible that there's some rare item or Enemy in the UNL that you can collect or kill to upgrade your avatar in some way, but such a thing should only work once (per avatar, or at all). |
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According to my calculations, 2 years less 1/3 for sleep and 1/3 for attending to other business * 1000, that's endlessly grinding for 800 ingame months. And you thought Korean MMOs were insane Grindy McGrindersons. Platforming minigame! Go exploring for Datacrons and hidden scrolls.
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