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Old 2011-12-26, 06:19   Link #3321
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How many magical circuits does Rin have? and what is the average for a magus?
I recall reading somewhere that Rin has about 40 whilst an average magus would have 20.
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Old 2011-12-27, 12:04   Link #3322
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I think Rin is a long way above that, actually. She's supposedly got something like 20 times more than the average magus.
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Old 2011-12-28, 22:56   Link #3323
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A very important question, and I bet my two cents this has been asked about an infinity times between after both Fate/stay Night and Unlimited Blade Work film came out:

Any remote, and whatsoever little, chances if an animated adaptation for Heaven's Feel is going to materialize?

Heaven's Feel is a must see.
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Old 2011-12-29, 12:06   Link #3324
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It seems pretty unlikely, unfortunately.

Although, honestly, if Deen would be making it (which seems likely), I'd rather it not happen at all. If they make as big a mess of it as they did of the UBW movie (in terms of character development, at least), then Sakura will come across as very unsympathetic. Hell, even people who have played the game misunderstand her character often enough....
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Old 2011-12-29, 14:27   Link #3325
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Strongest Servant is serious Gil, this is straight form Nasu the Overgod of Type-Moon Universe
Citation needed.
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Old 2011-12-29, 15:22   Link #3326
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How many magical circuits does Rin have? and what is the average for a magus?
Quality over Quantity

sometimes all you need is just One.
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Old 2011-12-30, 04:25   Link #3327
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she has a lot and they're all high quality, too...
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Old 2011-12-30, 09:22   Link #3328
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Rin is awesome. But you really do need more than one.

Spoiler for UBW:

Spoiler for HF:
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Old 2011-12-31, 01:52   Link #3329
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just a had thought

Avalon which can protect saber against anything vs Primate Murder with his Absolute Right To Murder Human.

Can Avalon keep out the Beast of Gaia?
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Old 2011-12-31, 04:33   Link #3330
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just a had thought

Avalon which can protect saber against anything vs Primate Murder with his Absolute Right To Murder Human.

Can Avalon keep out the Beast of Gaia?
Seeing as how Avalon is compared to True Magic, and it has the ability to move you into a completely isolated dimension, I'd think Avalon can keep Primate Murder out.
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Old 2011-12-31, 11:35   Link #3331
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Seeing as how Avalon is compared to True Magic, and it has the ability to move you into a completely isolated dimension, I'd think Avalon can keep Primate Murder out.
But the Beast of Gaia needs 7 Counter guardians to stop its rampage. That is equivalent fire power of 7 FSN Archer.
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Old 2011-12-31, 13:56   Link #3332
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that's nothing to Avalon

it 'blocks' everything .. although I don't know about MEoDP .. probably it too, Avalon is from fairy-land, not Earth afaik, it likely doesn't have earthen origin, so no MEoDP


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But the Beast of Gaia needs 7 Counter guardians to stop its rampage. That is equivalent fire power of 7 FSN Archer.
CG's don't have NP's .. although they do have practically limitless prana
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Old 2011-12-31, 15:04   Link #3333
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How about one of the Ultimate Types? they aren't form Earth either.
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Old 2011-12-31, 15:24   Link #3334
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MEoDP from regular Shiki's doesn't work on ORT

from VOID Shiki dunno


Avalon would block anything the Ultimates have I think


it doesn't really block per se, more like transports the user to an alternate dimension
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Old 2011-12-31, 23:04   Link #3335
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Like Kallen said, Avalon's main function essentially makes you 'not there,' so theoretically it should protect you from literally anything.

Of course, against a type, the user would get obliterated the instant it was deactivated, but if you're just asking whether it could stop an attack or two, then sure.

I'm curious though how Avalon works. Does it physically transport you? Or does it work like a pseudo-Reality Marble? I suppose the question really comes down to is can Crystal Valley "overwrite" Avalon? Regardless of whether it does or not, unless you can find some way of attacking while being effected by Avalon (which should be just as theoretically impossible as harming someone under Avalon's effect) its not really a flexible enough defense to help significantly in a battle against something as strong as a Type.

As far as MEoDP vs Avalon, I'm not entirely sure how it would fair either. From what I can find, Avalon functions as a True Magic, so I doubt its the kind of thing that Shiki or Ryougi would be able to recognize as killable.
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Old 2011-12-31, 23:07   Link #3336
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Avalon still runs on magic

it's not something that can be activated non stop
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Old 2012-01-01, 00:06   Link #3337
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If I'm not mistaken, Tohno Shiki's eyes can only perceive the death that he can understand (As Arcueid said in Tsukihime).
In other words, because he's a Gaian (Earthling) and works under Gaia's rules, thus he won't be able to perceive Avalon's death. As Avalon was created by fairies and works by "putting the user" in the domain of faeries through boundary field.
So, the user's body is essentially on the land of faeries upon using Avalon's full power. You can't attack something which isn't there, thus, an absolute defense Noble Phantasm.
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Old 2012-01-01, 00:35   Link #3338
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i get that Avalon transport the user "away" so the user will be safe. But how about a direct attack on Avalon itself? How many hits form ORT before Avalon itself cracks?
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Old 2012-01-01, 02:36   Link #3339
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I don't think the Land of the Faeries means not from Gaia though :/ I don't understand how the Faeries would come into contact to give Excalibur and Avalon (and etc) in the first place if they weren't from Earth.

As for attacking Avalon itself, my speculation is that it depends on how it works. If it is physically transporting them somewhere, theoretically it shouldn't even be able to be attacked. If its just acting like a Reality Marble, then I figure ORT just being there would probably crush it via Crystal Valley. According to the wiki, it says "The scabbard dissipates into countless tiny particles in the air and immerses the user to become a "portable fortress" that shuts out all interference." I feel that kind of supports my bubble-Avalon theory, but even so whether or not Crystal Valley just kills the person through Avalon, destroys Avalon itself, or has no effect, I can't imagine ORT being tripped up by it. I mean the Faeries might be strong, but I doubt they could make a shield capable of protecting against a Type for any significant amount of time.
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Old 2012-01-01, 02:53   Link #3340
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i get that Avalon transport the user "away" so the user will be safe. But how about a direct attack on Avalon itself? How many hits form ORT before Avalon itself cracks?
An inactive Avalon maybe...but a fully activated one dissolves into shiny fairy dust particles that immerses the user and transforms them into an untouchable moving fortress (as seen here):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeTSjWvkIAo

Simply put, it's an automatic "I Win" since it displaces the user out of phase with whatever reality they are in...rendering them untouchable by any external force. (not even the Anti-World EA could do a thing about it)
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