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UsagiTenpura · 2011-07-08, 17:27

It is not a "when they cry".

Although a "when they cry 5" is not impossible, it doesn't seem to figure in Ryuukishi's plans for now.
If anything, it's probably better both for him and us to be 100% over Umineko before making/reading the next when they cry.

TW25 · 2011-07-08, 18:19

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It just seems silly making a "When They Cry" series with 2 loosely connected games with similar themes. If there was a third one, perhaps using some characters from both, it might make the series seem more solid as a "whole".

When They Cry is not meant to be a series in that sense. It's more along the lines of "a series of works" rather than a "a series of parts of a whole".

cronnoponno · 2011-07-08, 18:59

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Originally Posted by LyricalAura

Come, let us depart. Take the dancing Spider Lily’s hand. Welcome to this cruel yet beautiful world, the world of the spider lilies….

Problem, Beatrice?

Lol, Hiban really sounds like it's said the same was as a ''when they cry'' series, try saying it out loud.

catastrophe8 · 2011-07-08, 19:38

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Originally Posted by Roseweave

It just seems silly making a "When They Cry" series with 2 loosely connected games with similar themes. If there was a third one, perhaps using some characters from both, it might make the series seem more solid as a "whole".

Best to think of it like Final Fantasy, same series name, yet are loosely to not connected

ndqanh_vn · 2011-07-09, 04:31

Is the artist for the Higanbana still Ryukishi? (Damn he did improve)
I read the manga chapter and...don't quite like it (it feels like it's trying to be as disgusting and "dark" as possible without any sane or sympathetic viewpoint).
Anyways, I think I should start to learn Japanese now...

Bluemail · 2011-07-09, 06:58

Higanbana no Saku Yoru ni OP:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPwGtQYdKos

Reminds me of the Higurashi Matsuri and Kizuna openings.

And to ndqanh, the artist is still Ryukishi.

Katsu Koneko · 2011-07-09, 07:09

*o* That was amazing and I definitely agree on it seeming like Higurashi Matsuri/Kizuna! Do we have a name/artist for this song yet?

CrimsonMoonMist · 2011-07-09, 08:21

What happened to that Tsubasa translation project that was getting talked about earlier?
was it ever completed? Hate asking something i could search up, but there's kind of a lot of pages in this thread.

Acinem · 2011-07-09, 09:48

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Originally Posted by CrimsonMoonMist

What happened to that Tsubasa translation project that was getting talked about earlier?
was it ever completed? Hate asking something i could search up, but there's kind of a lot of pages in this thread.

there is tsubara translation, all except of 3 tips. It is not done by WH but it is reliable. link sorry.. it is somewhere is this topic but where ...

moldy_tomato · 2011-07-09, 10:05

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Originally Posted by CrimsonMoonMist

What happened to that Tsubasa translation project that was getting talked about earlier?
was it ever completed? Hate asking something i could search up, but there's kind of a lot of pages in this thread.

Found it with a single Google search.

It's in the page 300

CrimsonMoonMist · 2011-07-09, 10:56

Thanks,
Glad i don't have to look through all those pages.

Roseweave · 2011-07-09, 21:42

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Originally Posted by catastrophe8

Best to think of it like Final Fantasy, same series name, yet are loosely to not connected

That works when there's a whole series of games. I mean, imagine if you had just Final Fantasy 1, and 7 with it's slight Cyberpunkness. It would seem kind of weird wouldn't i? But when you have loads of different games with different ideas, but with common themes, 7 seems more like a "Final Fantasy" game.

You can't do it with just 2 games, it's silly. 2 games isn't enough for common trends to emerge.

AuraTwilight · 2011-07-09, 22:07

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You can't do it with just 2 games, it's silly. 2 games isn't enough for common trends to emerge.

Final Fantasy did it back when it was Final Fantasy 1 and Final Fantasy 2. It has to start somewhere.

cereal_killerxx · 2011-07-10, 03:35

So, 20-30 hours each with 8 arcs in all. So around 160-240 hours to read the whole thing. O_O I'm beginning to wonder if I have the time to read this.

Orophin · 2011-07-10, 08:52

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Originally Posted by cereal_killerxx

So, 20-30 hours each with 8 arcs in all. So around 160-240 hours to read the whole thing. O_O I'm beginning to wonder if I have the time to read this.

I think those numbers are a bit exaggerated. I'd be surprised if someone needed more than 120 hours to read the whole thing, even for a non-native Japanese/English speaker. Someone who's reading Umineko in his native language should probably be able to read all eight Episodes in under 100 hours.

AlexiaCarcera · 2011-07-10, 16:30

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Originally Posted by Orophin

I think those numbers are a bit exaggerated. I'd be surprised if someone needed more than 120 hours to read the whole thing, even for a non-native Japanese/English speaker. Someone who's reading Umineko in his native language should probably be able to read all eight Episodes in under 100 hours.

Yeah, I'm a pretty slow reader, or I'm remembering wrong lol. It's definitely 10~20 hours per episode then?

Yirba · 2011-07-10, 17:29

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Originally Posted by LyricalAura

Yeah, I see a couple characteristic Google Translate-isms in there. Guess I'll take crack at it.

Cool, thanks for the translation! It makes a lot more sense now.

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Originally Posted by Roseweave

I'm confused, is Higanbana a "When they Cry" game?

It's not a WTC game. Ryukishi07 wanted to take a break from the series. This game will be a series of short stories that focus more on horror than mystery, I believe.

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Originally Posted by cereal_killerxx

So, 20-30 hours each with 8 arcs in all. So around 160-240 hours to read the whole thing. O_O I'm beginning to wonder if I have the time to read this.

Don't worry, just read a bit each day and it'll soon fly by… I read an hour each day, and it's fine.

UsagiTenpura · 2011-07-10, 19:59

I guess it depends on the type of reading. Think 10 hours or so is what any given arc took me to finish, or less, the first time.

And whenever a WH translation came out some people posted they had just finished it the same day it came out, so it can probably go faster.

Rereading them while taking note of everything, taking various screenshots or copy quote for reference, and constantly stop to try to make sense of what you got so far, can take you probably up to 20-30 hours per arc I guess.

cronnoponno · 2011-07-10, 21:21

I conveniently had some good free time when I started reading Umineko, usually at about 5 in the afternoon when I get off work, I read Umineko till about 12?(REALLY ADDICTED TO IT), I read about 1 episode a day, including the tea party and the ???'s.

Roseweave · 2011-07-10, 22:43

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Originally Posted by AlexiaCarcera

Yeah, I'm a pretty slow reader, or I'm remembering wrong lol. It's definitely 10~20 hours per episode then?

No way would it take 20 hours to read an episode, even for a slower reader. I'm pretty sure you could clear one in 6 if you were reading quickly.

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UsagiTenpura Artist Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Yesterday!	It is not a "when they cry". Although a "when they cry 5" is not impossible, it doesn't seem to figure in Ryuukishi's plans for now. If anything, it's probably better both for him and us to be 100% over Umineko before making/reading the next when they cry.

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ndqanh_vn Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011	Is the artist for the Higanbana still Ryukishi? (Damn he did improve) I read the manga chapter and...don't quite like it (it feels like it's trying to be as disgusting and "dark" as possible without any sane or sympathetic viewpoint). Anyways, I think I should start to learn Japanese now...

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Bluemail Zero of the roulette Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Finland Age: 30	Higanbana no Saku Yoru ni OP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPwGtQYdKos Reminds me of the Higurashi Matsuri and Kizuna openings. And to ndqanh, the artist is still Ryukishi.

2011-07-09, 08:21	Link #6588
CrimsonMoonMist Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Age: 30	What happened to that Tsubasa translation project that was getting talked about earlier? was it ever completed? Hate asking something i could search up, but there's kind of a lot of pages in this thread.

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CrimsonMoonMist Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Age: 30	Thanks, Glad i don't have to look through all those pages.

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cereal_killerxx Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007	So, 20-30 hours each with 8 arcs in all. So around 160-240 hours to read the whole thing. O_O I'm beginning to wonder if I have the time to read this.

2011-07-10, 19:59	Link #6598
UsagiTenpura Artist Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Yesterday!	I guess it depends on the type of reading. Think 10 hours or so is what any given arc took me to finish, or less, the first time. And whenever a WH translation came out some people posted they had just finished it the same day it came out, so it can probably go faster. Rereading them while taking note of everything, taking various screenshots or copy quote for reference, and constantly stop to try to make sense of what you got so far, can take you probably up to 20-30 hours per arc I guess.

2011-07-10, 21:21	Link #6599
cronnoponno Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011	I conveniently had some good free time when I started reading Umineko, usually at about 5 in the afternoon when I get off work, I read Umineko till about 12?(REALLY ADDICTED TO IT), I read about 1 episode a day, including the tea party and the ???'s.