2008-10-13, 05:18 | Link #161 |
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There's more to Shiro-chan than what meets the eye, but I don't expect him to win his fight. It won't be slaughter though.
Am I the only one that remembers Ichimaru vs Toushirou? The kid can give an excellent fight if he's got the motivation and they were both just using shikai's. Granted, Ichimaru outwitted him, but I'm pretty sure that's what the kid is capable of, and not what everyone seems to remember him by: The fight with the Arrancar and his doomsday against Aizen. (Which was really more of a plot device than a fight, just showing how hax Aizen was) He may not win but it won't be an imbalanced fight. I'm not expecting new abilities, I'm just expecting some crazy levels of reiatsu coming out from the kid. Raw power that will be outwitted yet again by battle experience.
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2008-10-13, 08:36 | Link #163 | |
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2008-10-13, 10:00 | Link #166 |
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Huh? Gin released Shinsou too, as did Toushirou with Hyourinmaru. Nothing that we've seen of the fight has shown that either of them had an upper hand on the other. The end of the fight was a sly trick of Ichimaru, but otherwise the fight was even.
Saying that Ichimaru played around with Toushirou is pure speculation until we get a clear level of power for either characters. Ichimaru because we only saw one fight out of him, and Toushirou because that one fight was overshadowed by plotkai Aizen and Arrancar/limiter fight. In short, I'm convinced Toushirou will pull out something. Probably not win the fight, but definitely impress somehow. If he looks bad, it's going to make Ichimaru look bad and we can't have that. After all, they both are the youngest appointed captains of their generations.
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2008-10-13, 10:15 | Link #168 | |
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2008-10-13, 12:26 | Link #169 | |
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At least I can see Stark as someone who has the right personality to defeat his opponent. Probably Ukitake is going to help Shunsui when he´s in trouble. Also Ichigo and Kenpachi are still in Hueco Mundo. I doubt that the fight will be over when they arrive. |
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2008-10-13, 14:19 | Link #171 |
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With all the bickering over Hitsu thats been going on for the last 4-5 pages, I'm highly surprised that no one has pointed out that Yama's sword is sealed when he yelled "Get Them". Now how exactly is he trapping Aizen and Co. when he sealed his sword?
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2008-10-13, 14:19 | Link #172 |
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yup, the throne, the crown etc. it shows mmmmmm
but i still go for Stark because of these reasons: > The order they are called by Aizen in ch 315 (Stark, Barragan, and Halibel respectively) > The way/order they were shown in the manga(right to left, top to bottom it always starts with Stark ch315 and 316) @lequory Good observation, it's discussed at other forums too heh.. my bet is that the fire prison does not need continuous control. its like i cast it there and leave it. and ill remove it when i want to. or that move consumes a lot of reiatsu and Yamaji needs to recover ^,,..,,^ |
2008-10-13, 15:01 | Link #175 |
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I somewhat suspect that Aizen could get out anyway, he's just choosing to stay there, give the illusion that he's trapped, and watch what happens.
Also, it does seem to me that Barragan's talking far too much and such to be #1. I also seem to remember, but can't find where it is, him saying "Don't underestimate me" to Halibel, suggesting he's not as highly ranked.
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2008-10-13, 16:57 | Link #176 | |
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2008-10-13, 17:01 | Link #177 | |
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2008-10-14, 01:02 | Link #178 | |
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Byakuya just sort of yawned for most of the fight, and his 2nd level bankai is way beyond Ichigo's bankai. He dropped one of his 10,000 swords onto Ichigo's foot and pinned him down. Hitsugaya has released his bankai immediately during every fight. This is a classic shounen sign of weakness--and since he's had so much screentime, he's one of the main characters and in clear need for a powerup. Ichigo also releases right off the bat--he's just to sad without his bankai, which isn't that impressive regardless. Of course, Hitsugaya's bankai is supposed to be the strongest ice type, which means he eventually may be in the same class as Yamamoto. The problem right now of course, he isn't very good at using his zanpaktoh, and he hasn't really displayed any captain-like abilities. If Barragan is not number one, and number #3 instead, then we have 2 possibilities. 1) Shunsui is screwed and Ukitake needs to join in the fight, and both will have to release their bankais. [1b) Shunsui doesn't release bankai, and Stark never releases their zanpaktohs, and the battle ends before either really exerts themselves...] 2) Shunsui wins, the espada are pitiful, Aizen, Tousen, & Gin escape from the fire cage, and own everyone without much effort, like they took down 4 captains and 3 VCs with little effort in the flashback arc. If #2, the vizards will have to come in to save the day; the Seireitei captains have very little chance against Aizen & Tousen + Gin combo. The only guy who has a chance against Tousen is (surprise!) in Heuco Mundo (Kenpachi). Gin I think is the overrated one in the group, his shikai appears very lame, which (may) be an indication of his power level. The main thing I see is, Gin's shikai melds VERY WELL with Aizen & Tosen's zanpaktoh abilities. Aizen & Tosen can control all senses, while Gin can selectively snipe at opponents. Last edited by astrallionheart; 2008-10-14 at 01:15. |
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2008-10-14, 01:19 | Link #179 | |
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2008-10-14, 07:18 | Link #180 |
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ummmm..
Alright I'm wondering where the list of "People who got sodomized by Aizen backhandedly" are in this fight. Those people are: The incredibly powerful captain level+ Vizards- these guys could mop the floor with the espada if a shikai captain like Zaraki can beat #5. Next on the list is Urahara- straight up beast of a captain who had to learn to fight bare handed just to keep his prisoners locked up (not to mention incredibly smart). Finally Tessai- Death dealer in his own right this man was the captain of the Kido corps and should know the highest of the high kido with mastery of that way above Aizen. So why Aizen and his squad are still among the living while making this list of enemies other than the Gotei 13 and coming to them is beyond me. Seriously at least the Vizards should be there. Speaking of which since Aizen is after the King's key why hasn't any of the Zero division shown up and just "neutralized the threat".
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