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Old 2015-05-31, 17:23   Link #81
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That's power level, not tactical superiority.

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Old 2015-05-31, 17:27   Link #82
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That's power level, not tactical superiority.

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Not being an expert in tactics doesn't make someone stupid. Is he the best? No. Is he the worst? No. He's average.
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Old 2015-05-31, 17:29   Link #83
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Not being an expert in tactics doesn't make someone stupid. Is he the best? No. Is he the worst? No. He's in the middle.
That's fanboy talk. Material says different. You can view it from any angle you want with any explanation you want.

It's plain language written in stone from the author as he advances the story.

Issei has plot shield, doesn't change his qualities as they are written. And boy are they written...too much at times.
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Old 2015-05-31, 17:49   Link #84
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That's fanboy talk. Material says different. You can view it from any angle you want with any explanation you want.

It's plain language written in stone from the author as he advances the story.

Issei has plot shield, doesn't change his qualities as they are written. And boy are they written...too much at times.
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Old 2015-05-31, 18:22   Link #85
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That's fanboy talk. Material says different. You can view it from any angle you want with any explanation you want.

It's plain language written in stone from the author as he advances the story.

Issei has plot shield, doesn't change his qualities as they are written. And boy are they written...too much at times.
Really? I find your notion that the LN supports your opinion curious, as there are numerous occasions where Issei has shown intelligent and creative use of his powers very clearly. An early example is creative use of Transfer.

While Issei is by no means the smartest of the group, I think calling him an all around idiot isn't a correct statement. The author has clearly shown he has the intelligence to adapt his powers on the fly to overcome dangerous situations.

An comparative example would be someone like Goku. Book smarts, he's not the best. Nor is he tactically. Where he shows his intelligence is creative manipulation of his abilities.

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Old 2015-05-31, 20:45   Link #86
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Ise is by far not dumb as a rock. Like GDK said he is very smart when it comes to using the tools available to him as a way to win. He works with what he has to make up for his other shortcomings. He knows he is not a genius and that many things are above and beyond him. Despite that he stands and fights and uses what he has to find a way to win.
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Old 2015-05-31, 23:16   Link #87
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Ise is by far not dumb as a rock. Like GDK said he is very smart when it comes to using the tools available to him as a way to win. He works with what he has to make up for his other shortcomings. He knows he is not a genius and that many things are above and beyond him. Despite that he stands and fights and uses what he has to find a way to win.
OK, let's not exaggerate here. He's very creative and inventive, but in terms of smarts he's just average.
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Old 2015-06-01, 07:20   Link #88
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Issei comes a long way since his debut in the series. He certainly a work harder,and throughout his efforts, he becoming stronger. It wouldn't be wise to get him mad. Trust me, Diodora learned the hard way.
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Old 2015-06-02, 08:21   Link #89
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The idea of dying just trying to go near him in his incomplete state is actually very scarey.
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Old 2015-06-02, 09:14   Link #90
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Bio, this is the anime sub-forum. Spoiler tag your comment godamnit.
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Old 2015-06-06, 21:22   Link #91
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I have a good comparison. Master Roshi vs Ise in pervertedness?
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Old 2015-06-07, 17:11   Link #92
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I have a good comparison. Master Roshi vs Ise in pervertedness?
If you had said Jiraiya that would be a good one but not Master Roshi.
Speaking of fun little things here's a fun one imagine issei's reaction to the Sexy-jutsu
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Old 2015-06-07, 18:25   Link #93
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If you had said Jiraiya that would be a good one but not Master Roshi.
Speaking of fun little things here's a fun one imagine issei's reaction to the Sexy-jutsu
Issei reaction to Gender Bender IS known.
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Old 2015-06-07, 21:17   Link #94
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If you had said Jiraiya that would be a good one but not Master Roshi.
Speaking of fun little things here's a fun one imagine issei's reaction to the Sexy-jutsu
I don't see how Master Roshi is not a good person to compare to Ise in terms of perverted-ness...
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Old 2015-08-02, 22:53   Link #95
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I don't know if you guys agree but issei is the perfect harem character. He's not spineless like Rito or completely dense like ichika. But he's not too perverted like akatsuki from hagure yuusha.
The fact is and most of you guys wont admit this sadly but akatsuki's actions are probably what most of you guys would take if you were in the situations of the harem leads.
issei is the type who loves women and knows he's loves women but the plot device is used to prevent this from being an h-manga granted it pushes that border all the time. He; really the perfect harem MC and im glad we finally got one
I have to agree with ImperialFlameGod. Unlike most of the other harem leads, Issei's willing to have a harem. Thus making his girls happy. Due to his kindness,bravery,and manliness, Rias,and the other girls throwing themselves at him. He already can sense the women's feelings. I think Ichika Orimura can learn a lot from Issei as well as to be inspired by him to understand women.
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Old 2016-01-13, 17:44   Link #96
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I have a question.
Issei tells his friends to call him Ise.
What is the phonetical pronunciation of Isse and Ise?
Issei I assume is pronounced as "eesay"{from the anime} but how is Ise pronounced???

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Old 2016-01-20, 17:46   Link #97
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I just not interested in ppl like him, for me he is only boring .....
I am far more interested in already dead Reynar and Mittelt, they are more evil and clever than him, but unfortunately he and his Rias far more powerful (
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