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Old 2008-08-18, 15:31   Link #5101
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True, everyone does make mistakes...eh, that aside.

And as for development...Kallen didn't see through Lelouch's lie despite him telling her to live. I can only hope future showings of the duo are...well, better.
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:31   Link #5102
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Forget that, she was fully turned around when the Shinkuro landed.
true (had to watch frame by frame to confirm)

and she did ask him what she means to him right after minami said she might be under the geass
lulu just used that crack in the armor to hit the only spot that would have worked
if she didnt belive him when he pulled his "im so evil act" then she would have died too so he had to make it a good one
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:32   Link #5103
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And as for development...Kallen didn't see through Lelouch's lie despite him telling her to live. I can only hope future showings of the duo are...well, better.
Wait... what? Yes she did. Did you miss her reaction and subsequent plea?

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true (had to watch frame by frame to confirm)
I did too. ... With my bionic cyber-vision that is!
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:33   Link #5104
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Putting aside the translation groups which are awesome btw, they are pretty fast i gotta admit and on topic, i wanna see Guren action. It's been one epi and i miss it so bad. ;__; {i think i like Guren more than Kallen herself LOL}
Lelouch: Oh, Gurren, no one must know about our forbidden love. You're last upgrade has made you soo-
Kallen: LELOUCH! What are you doing to my KnightMare!?
Lelouch: ...I know this looks bad, but I have a perfectly good explanation as to why I'm half-naked. By the way, I'll be pilotting the Gurren now.
Kallen: But you can't-
Lelouch: Thanks, see ya, bye! *Flies off in Seiten*
Suzaku: I've found you, Kallen! Now, you shall taste the blade of Albion!
Lelouch: Oh no!
*Suzaku makes Gurren explode but Lelouch escapes*
Lelouch: Suzaku... for this... for this you will pay! SUZAKU!!
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:33   Link #5105
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We're kind of getting off track again. LOL

The fact Lelouch added anything to her at the end was powerful. She then tried to get them to stop.
Kallen's thread is like Kallen. Keeps getting interrupted.
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:34   Link #5106
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It wasn't just a plea but it also had a desperate ring to it as well.
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:35   Link #5107
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It wasn't just a plea but it also had a desperate ring to it as well.
well she was desperate
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:37   Link #5108
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Lelouch: Oh, Gurren, no one must know about our forbidden love. You're last upgrade has made you soo-
Kallen: LELOUCH! What are you doing to my KnightMare!?
Lelouch: ...I know this looks bad, but I have a perfectly good explanation as to why I'm half-naked.
OMFG you just gave me a new OTP. <3 {XD}

I want new episode now, need Kalulu scenes. Dammit Sunrise. You took my first OTP to give me another one to be all ghdjkf about it. "^^
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:38   Link #5109
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Initially, Var. It took prompting by Lelouch, you know.
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:39   Link #5110
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OMFG you just gave me a new OTP. <3 {XD}

I want new episode now, need Kalulu scenes. Dammit Sunrise. You took my first OTP to give me another one to be all ghdjkf about it. "^^
Thanks. I added a bit to it so that now, Lancelot destroys Gurren after Lelouch jacks it from Kallen and Lelouch swears revenge on Suzaku for killing his beloved KnightMare.
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:39   Link #5111
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It wasn't just a plea but it also had a desperate ring to it as well.
Pfft, fine, make it even more emotional why don't you. Poor girl. I wonder what was going through her head the moment she heard what he said. Her face was priceless... damn why did I give away that avie. XD

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Initially, Var. It took prompting by Lelouch, you know.
I don't think that's what you said... She saw through it all the moment he told her to live on.
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:39   Link #5112
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Initially, Var. It took prompting by Lelouch, you know.
Well Lulu can be damn convincing i guess. {but yeah, she was too fast to turn her back and say "sayonara Lelouch. The epi was rushed in general i guess.}
I was more surprised he did not kick him in the nuts, cause hell i would kick him like no tomorrow.
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:40   Link #5113
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the look when she saw that the shinkiro was gone half catatonic
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:41   Link #5114
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I don't think that's what you said... She saw through it all the moment he told her to live on.
It became pretty obvious after he told her to live on... There wasn't much to see through.
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:41   Link #5115
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The whole 'you were my greatest pawn' thing, Var. Kallen knows Lelouch personally more than almost anyone else on the show (the exception I recall being the old C.C., but, alas, she's gone). One would think she would see through that initially, and not require prompting.
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:44   Link #5116
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yes she does know him better then just about anyone else in the show
and the one thing she knows about him is how little she actually knows him
she was still trying to figure him out in ep 17
and just as she belived she had the answer he goes and does that
and then just as she belived he really is evil he goes and tells her to live on
he's not easy to understand
even more so to those who know him
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:45   Link #5117
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It became pretty obvious after he told her to live on... There wasn't much to see through.
You ask someone how they feel about you, ready to die, and they nonchalantly laugh at you and call you their greatest pawn. Its called hitting the right buttons.

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The whole 'you were my greatest pawn' thing, Var. Kallen knows Lelouch personally more than almost anyone else on the show (the exception I recall being the old C.C., but, alas, she's gone). One would think she would see through that initially, and not require prompting.
I don't know, I think Lelouch hit the proper cords to get her to move, he acted perfectly so that she'd live. I'd give more props to Lelouch than deduct from Kallen... and again, that's not what you said. You said that even with his prompting she did not see through him.
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:47   Link #5118
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The whole 'you were my greatest pawn' thing, Var. Kallen knows Lelouch personally more than almost anyone else on the show (the exception I recall being the old C.C., but, alas, she's gone). One would think she would see through that initially, and not require prompting.
I don't know... Suzaku might have her beat there. Heck, he might even have C.C. beat there.

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You ask someone how they feel about you, ready to die, and they nonchalantly laugh at you and call you their greatest pawn. Its called hitting the right buttons.
I never said it wasn't... That doesn't change the fact that it became quite obvious when Lelouch says to Live On.
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:47   Link #5119
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Pfft, fine, make it even more emotional why don't you. Poor girl. I wonder what was going through her head the moment she heard what he said. Her face was priceless... damn why did I give away that avie. XD
Well it farther strengths your point doesn't it? Sometimes you can complain about the strangest things.

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The whole 'you were my greatest pawn' thing, Var. Kallen knows Lelouch personally more than almost anyone else on the show (the exception I recall being the old C.C., but, alas, she's gone). One would think she would see through that initially, and not require prompting.
Look at Kallen's face and listen to the tone of her voice. In all the times she has faced death she reverts to as a scared girl with tears in her eyes or squeakier voice. But this time shielding Lelouch she was resolute, she was prepared to die with him even if he said he thought of her as just friends or something, but she laid out her feelings for him and wants to know his response. Lelouch basically spat on her feelings with what he said, it was mainly the attitude and to her feelings that made her walk away but when she overheard his last works it brought her back.
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:48   Link #5120
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yes she does know him better then just about anyone else in the show
and the one thing she knows about him is how little she actually knows him
she was still trying to figure him out in ep 17
and just as she belived she had the answer he goes and does that
and then just as she belived he really is evil he goes and tells her to live on
he's not easy to understand
even more so to those who know him
I'd say she knows now, or will after this next episode and a little reflection.
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