2008-06-11, 00:34 | Link #2001 | |
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I like to think of the short-range Gae Bulg as a self redirecting 50 caliber bullet were as thrown Gae Bulg is a bomb...which is thrown, and has a drill on it...? …That made sense in my head. |
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2008-06-11, 09:46 | Link #2002 |
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Will all servant(except of archer classes) die at the moment their master is killed?
Can a servant cancel their contract with their master? Since Archer is EMIYA can other servants sign contract with him? Does Archer still have avalon in his body? What is the name of Sasaki Koujirou's Noble phantasm? Rin said in fate route that Kansho and Bakuya is not Archer's Noble phantasm. So what is Archer's noble phantasm? How many kinds of barrier that existed in Nasuverse? Since Gilgamesh himself is divine will archer traced enkidu work on him? What is archer's strongest arrow? I heard that activating Unlimited Blade Work harms Shirou and archer and for that reason Archer wore the red trench coat. Is that true? What determines the stat of the servant's abilities?
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1) How much mana they have left. 2) If they have Independant Action as a skill. Saber, without a Master can last for 2 hours before she disappears. Archer (after heavily draining his mana taking on Lancer, Caster, Saber, and Gilgamesh) can last 2 days. Quote:
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How long each servant lingers depends on one factor: mana. As long as the servant has mana, they can main. And a few factors affacts on how long their mana will last, as well. Some servants, like Bererker, uses up a lot of mana just by existing. They are the most likely to 'disappear immediately' without a mana source. 4th HG war Berserker disappeared almost immediately when he sucked his master dry of mana during combat. Some servants, like casters, are capable of absorbing mana from external sources to replenish their mana reserve, and does not really have a problem staying without a mana source. However, without a master the HG won't supply them with the mana required to exist(which is far greater than any humans can generate) Some servants, like archers, has independent actions, are also capable of lingering like casters. However this is done by cutting the amount of mana loss instead of replenishing their reserve. Quote:
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This is deduced by the fact that Archer knows Avalon is in Shirou's body(forgot where...but probably in the UBW route), and the only Shirou who knows about Avalon is from Fate route. Quote:
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By the way...what's the difference of a tactical nuke and of a nuke? |
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2008-06-11, 11:59 | Link #2006 | |||
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Basically, the red coat is an artefact and not just for show. He mentions in in the sequel. It's implied at various points that the red cloth used by Caren to bind men is the material for Archer's coat. On the basis that it's a red artifact with spirit protection possessed by the only person not pulled from the young Shirou's memories. It's suggested that Caren comes from Archer's memories instead. Quote:
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EDIT: {54km is given as the upper boundary for a 20Mt device. But I note that "Castle", "Hardtack 1 & 2" and "Dominic" pushed 40-50Mt, over twice the yield, so devices exist that extend far further. Range is also increased if the device is detonated underwater and used against a fleet.} But I'm pretty sure that most tactical devices ended up not going into production. Neverthless, unless Archer can level everything in 2km with a single shot, it's still not a nuke-equivalent. Last edited by rastilin; 2008-06-11 at 12:04. Reason: "Bravo" should read "Dominic" |
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2008-06-12, 19:08 | Link #2008 | |
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Saber - Shirou (Bad End) Archer - Caster Lancer - Kotomine Caster - ????? (Something happened to her first master). In the fourth, Archer killed Tokomi Tohsaka. |
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2008-06-13, 09:02 | Link #2010 | ||
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Archer managed to attack Rin because Rin was not her master due to Rule Breaker. Lancer killed Kotomine after Kotomine used up his command mantras, same thing for Caster. In the fourth HG War, it was Kotomine who stabbed Tokomi Tohsaka, archer merely stood by the side and watched. Quote:
Unleashing Excalibur itself already depletes his mana, so using it as Broken Phantasm should be impossible, since broken phantasm is done by having the user pour more mana than required into it, causing said noble phantasm to overlord and explode like a bomb... I'm wondering...should Broken Phantasm have capitals in each word? Unlike other Noble Phantasms, it's the name of a move itself... |
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2008-06-13, 13:35 | Link #2012 | |
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To make matters worse(for Caster), the archer class servant is the most capable of defying their master with 'independent action', weakening their master's orders. Caster, with Saber, Assassin and Archer as her servants, will and definitely have difficulty keeping them in place. |
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2008-06-17, 22:30 | Link #2013 |
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umm i have some questions after i rewatched the anime
1. how does ilya know that shiro is a master at first sight? 2. kotomine kirei said someone unfit got the grail, and he doesnt know what wish that master made. he said he retired early in the 4th war. so that means he lied, right? sorry that my questions might have been asked, but theres 101 pages to go through. |
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As for masters detecting masters, their command mantras are actually solid mana themselves, so if a mage detects another mage with a very concentrated mana souce on their body part, then they know he is a master. Illya herself being a big mana block is even more sensitive to active command mantras. Quote:
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You notice the statement 'I do not lie' is always and never fails to be a lie itself in any situation, any person, and any universe? |
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2008-06-21, 04:17 | Link #2019 | |
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Why does Iskander have a D-rank magic resistance?I thought Rider class does not have magic resistance? How strong is a C-rank magic resistance? Iamandragon you once said shirou will grow to be 10 times stronger than archer in UBW route.In what way do you mean strong? His strength or what?? Can archer traced avalon like shirou did?
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EX - Everything A - Nearly everything B - Three Verse C - Two Verse D - One Verse E - Only Weakens Saber doesn't have total magic resistance, it's still possible for strong enough magic to hurt her. Quote:
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