actually I consider Asuna pretty strong for a girl player, especially in mmorpg without level limit, I mean nowadays I don't recall any mmorpg which can't be maxed out in 2 years, there were a lot of them back then in early 2000 XD, and in those games usually guys out level girls by a lot.
back then I could play like 48h nonstop (eating instant noodles while playing) then took a bath for 15min, sleep for 4-5h, after that continue the cycle for a month or two.
10/10 nothing more to add.
Ohh or I will just add that this anime really is great, one of the saving graces of this season. Accel world pales in comparison.
Color me absolutely not surprised by this episode: I was actually wondering why Kirito put more emphasis on "same sword" for Dark Repulser, but dismissed that he would dual wield, considering it didn't seem to be a trump card (I guess the studio goofed up, since a thug in Episode 4 was dual wielding axes, and Kirito insisted that "dual wielding" (not specifically swords) is unique).
At least, quite satisfied that the anti crystal field possibility was proved to be true as I expected, so other means to trap players is absolutely not out of question now. In fact, It would be even more nerve wrecking if more mechanics are in play with further boss (floor trap, paralizing fields etc) than just trapped boss room.
Anyway, they did a good job in building the tension and all, but again, not trying to nitpick too much, but the design and animations weren't that consistent: past the flurry of attacks being quite flashy, Kirito often got shafted in design (even Klein in fact), with a lot of static shots etc.
That said, the current episodes definitely make up for the slow 2-7 portions.
actually anyone can dual wield, the skill just doesnt show up meaning they can't lvl it or use any skills in conjuncture with both weps. So its basically in WoW terms "white hitting" no system assist or w.e so technically the anime production team didnt goof it up
actually anyone can dual wield, the skill just doesnt show up meaning they can't lvl it or use any skills in conjuncture with both weps. So its basically in WoW terms "white hitting" no system assist or w.e so technically the anime production team didnt goof it up
But no one would do it, because it isn't efficient if you can't use a technique with it.
Yeah, fair enough. They do show one shot of the boss's HP, and it looks like the Army took down the first HP bar. If we assume that they got it down to half-HP by the time Kirito took over, that's probably a good bet.
That's also a fair thought. In this game, team work mostly seems to involve timing and switching out, and Kirito wasn't really leaving any openings for a switch, so it could be that they couldn't really do much even if they wanted. But by the same token, I also got the impression that they were mostly shocked.
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on a side note, sword skills cant be stopped once they are activated meaning, they need to be completed and then there's a lag time and a cool down timer on said skill. Btw its a 32-hit skill which is the freaking most hit skill I've seen, that said, highly doubt there's room for ppl to switch in until he finished Star Burst Stream
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Is there a time limit or something? Was Kirito worrying he can't finish the boss off?
Well, no. Although.. the longer the fight went on, the worse it got for Kirito, because even if he did block Gleameyes' attacks, it didn't nullify the damage completely (as shown by one scene in the anime).
But no one would do it, because it isn't efficient if you can't use skills with it.
well we can just say that low lvl Pk'er was just retarded and prolly just trying to look intimidating opposed to saying that the production team messed up, give em the benefit of the doubt cuz hell, I've been waiting for a SAO anime since I started reading several years back
I don't really see Asuna falling more in love with Kirito as a sign of being weaker.
What girls can't fall in love now without being seen as weak?
Even though she is the Vice Commander of one of the best guilds in the game, she is still a 14 year old girl. While death might still be a commoner sight on the frontlines, its still something that's harsh to see in front of you.
Well, I don't think, taken on its own, anything she did was necessarily out-of-character or unexpected (and to be clear, I didn't want to imply that her falling in love itself was a sign of weakness), but on the whole you see there's a bit of a disparity going on. It does seem a little bit like what Kazu-kun said: when she's on her own, she's a strong vice commander that everyone respects, but next to Kirito, she's weak. I guess you can take that two ways: first, you can say that she's showing a side of herself to Kirito that she can't show to her guildmembers (because, in front of them, she has to look strong and respectable all the time) -- so it's a sign of trust. But, second, you can also say that the story only built her up to be strong and respectable to put her up on a pedestal that only our hero protagonist could reach, and once he reaches it, that pedestal doesn't really matter any more.
It would be my preference that the show doesn't make her a "damsel in distress" too much because I think she's already demonstrated that she's strong and capable of her own right... but I guess we'll have to see what the show does going forward.
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actually I consider Asuna pretty strong for a girl player, especially in mmorpg without level limit, I mean nowadays I don't recall any mmorpg which can't be maxed out in 2 years, there were a lot of them back then in early 2000 XD, and in those games usually guys out level girls by a lot.
Eh, I don't really think that there's any reason why "girl players" have to be weaker. Both of my sisters played MMOs, and they were no weaker than any guy. It's really just about time committed, and in this game at least they have nowhere else to go. I think it's more that there are just more guys than girls, so statistically the best players are more likely to be guys.
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on a side note, sword skills cant be stopped once they are activated meaning, they need to be completed and then there's a lag time and a cool down timer on said skill. Btw its a 32-hit skill which is the freaking most hit skill I've seen, that said, highly doubt there's room for ppl to switch in until he finished Star Burst Stream
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Ah, that makes sense in that case. It was clear to me that there wasn't much of an opening, but it makes even more sense realizing that whole thing was one long single skill. Still it's a little bit "not only does he get a dual-wield ability that no one else has, but he gets an uninterruptable 32-hit skill to use it with"... he said the game was fair? Only partly serious...
actually anyone can dual wield, the skill just doesnt show up meaning they can't lvl it or use any skills in conjuncture with both weps. So its basically in WoW terms "white hitting" no system assist or w.e so technically the anime production team didnt goof it up
I really don't get it: why would the "dual wield skill" itself be considered unique, if anyone can wield?
I would understand if the unique skill was that Star Burst Stream, but dual wielding? As far as it goes, the anime shows that the act of using 2 weapons at the same time is not usual, considering both Asuna and Klein were shocked to see that.
Is there a specific part of the LN that explains the characteristic and "unique" aspect of the skill? because it doesn't make sense that anyone could wield 2 weapons.
I really don't get it: why would the "dual wield skill" itself be considered unique, if anyone can wield?
I would understand if the unique skill was that Star Burst Stream, but dual wielding? As far as it goes, the anime shows that the act of using 2 weapons at the same time is not usual, considering both Asuna and Klein were shocked to see that.
Anyone can attempt to use it, but the problem is that even if they do try to use it, a "dual wield" skill won't show up for them like it did for Kirito, so they can't level it to increase it's power and efficiency. The same goes for dual sword skills such as Star Burst Stream. I guess it'd be like wielding a weapon that requires 50 STR to wield, but the person trying to wield it only has 30. They can still use it, but it's nowhere near as effective as it could, and should be.
If we assume that "Dual Wield" is a kind of perk that enhances using two weapons at once, then there's likely statistical bonuses that come with it. And it's likely very hard to get such a perk, I imagine.
Anyone can attempt to use it, but the problem is that even if they do try to use it, a "dual wield" skill won't show up for them like it did for Kirito, so they can't level it to increase it's power and efficiency. The same goes for dual sword skills such as Star Burst Stream. I guess it'd be like wielding a weapon that requires 50 STR to wield, but the person trying to wield it only has 30. They can still use it, but it's nowhere near as effective as it could, and should be.
So, in other words, because there are skills specific to single sword use, there wouldn't be any advantage to dual-wielding, and in fact you might put yourself at a disadvantage. So, only because Kirito has that skill is there an advantage to dual-wielding. Anyone else could do it if they want, but it'd only be "to look cool". (Which could explain why that goon did it in Episode 4.)
I really don't get it: why would the "dual wield skill" itself be considered unique, if anyone can wield?
I would understand if the unique skill was that Star Burst Stream, but dual wielding? As far as it goes, the anime shows that the act of using 2 weapons at the same time is not usual, considering both Asuna and Klein were shocked to see that.
Is there a specific part of the LN that explains the characteristic and "unique" aspect of the skill? because it doesn't make sense that anyone could wield 2 weapons.
The only episode I saw someone dual wield was episode 4, but I guess that was anime only, the staff simply made a mistake.
Spoiler for Dual Blades:
In the LN, no one could wield two weapons at the same time (except sword+shield), either 2hand weapon, 1h+shield or 1h for style.
Dual Blades allows the user to use two weapons and have a set of sword skills unique to the Dual Blades skill. No other abilities allow that, hence it is unique.
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