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the dialogue is great. Setting is unique, animation and colors are pleasing to look at.
Its a bit raunchy, but it actually works really well in characterizing the people, and the setting and personality of the mains. Looking to head towards a strong 10 if this keeps up. lol @ what an impotent incubus Maria made. uh oh @ a human trying to attack an angel.
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2015-01-18, 13:02 | Link #82 |
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I'll give Joseph some credit. Not much of a better impression you can make there than picking a fight with an archangel for a girl . This should be considered fine by Michael's point of view since it's just humans acting on their own free will right?
Sounds like some remarkable selfishness on the part of heaven. It's perfectly fine for people to do whatever, but if someone with power like Maria actually tries to interfere with the fighting that's a problem? It's apparently fine for them to mess with the wars as we've seen with the other angels, but stopping fighting is the issue? They are really picking and choosing what goes against the natural order aren't they? This show really is quite good. Watching the first 2 episodes back to back (since somehow I missed the first episode) was fun. Doing a nice job with the cast and the setting.
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Notice that the Angels don't mind if by succubus proxy, Artemis drains the men and seduces them into deciding not to attack because in the end, the human is making the final decision The way the witches in the trees were acting, this also seems to be the case. But directly hardline interfering directly into human affairs like Maria is doing is a no-on.
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Just feels really hypocritical. They don't mind people escalating conflicts, or using familiars to stop conflicts from happening, but Maria's route is too much. In the end whether you are interfering directly during the battle or stopping it by intervening with the leaders you are still stopping people from doing what they wanted to do. I wasn't thinking on the Valkyries in this case, but agree I doubt they were tampering or anything.
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2015-01-18, 15:13 | Link #88 | |
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It is one thing if humans themselves choses what to do if given a choice and an other thing if they are forced to do one thing. Not that I mind Maria's reasoning much, after all it is true that if everyone stopped fighting there would be no war. XD As for the episode, I laughed goodly at the Inccubi with no D but a hazy cloud because Maria was too embarressed/has no idea what a man looks like down there. XD And then that general guy was okay with it as long as he had a hole. XDDD But boy, poor Maria, her innocent eyes are sullied now by that "serpent" she saw. XD I wonder if she wonders what Jospeh looks like below. ^^ Her blushing when he showed up to greet her was certainly cute, same when Artemis was teasing her or Ann asking them if he ws her boyfriend. <3 Also I am shipping them so hard now, Jospeh shoting an Archangel from behind and telling him his next arrow land between his eyes - what a badass! Panties dropping everywhere! 8D And given the OP we gonna see more cute scenes between those two. <3 Hope Michael is as impressed by Jospeh as we are, else Jospeh picked an insanely strong opponent to impress Maria. Jospeh, you know you just shot Archangel Michael, right? "I'd fight anybody who wants to harm Maria, be it devil or angel!" He's a keeper, Maria. :3 |
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2015-01-18, 17:02 | Link #89 |
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lol @ first half of the episode, the part of the priest and his aid, and later with the muscular one was really funny, and I can see most of the jobs of the incubus will be with mens, he has all those uke vibes.
The dialogue between Michael and Maria was kinda hard to hear, it hits some weak points of religions and some hard realties behind them, and it was well done imo, so well done Cant see a flaw yet, and thats very good, keep like that Junketsu no Maria.
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2015-01-18, 17:10 | Link #90 |
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Not a fan of the first half to be honest. Just the way in which the entire plot and humor revolved around sex seemed too crass even for me. I mean in a show that has a relatively decent portayal of the Hundred Years war, it seems a little too "anime-fied" and lacking in dignity.
The second half was better but I'm not really a big fan of the MC being such an enlightened pacifist. The concept is fine but the execution makes her feel a bit Mary Sue-ish.
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2015-01-18, 17:19 | Link #92 |
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Maybe. Michael does seem to hint at her naivety so there is that. But for the most part, I'm struggling to think of what she's done wrong other than perhaps her methods (why try and stop individual skirmishes and not try and appeal directly to the royals for some diplomacy?)
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2015-01-18, 18:26 | Link #93 |
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Valkyries exist too? I hope to see some Thor vs Michael action later
Pretty good episode. I wonder if Maria's powers also cause a negative impact just from her usage? Ie, supernatural powers shouldn't exist in the world (aside from the Gods observing) and her use of it upsets some higher balance that will ultimately tilt the world into chaos? |
2015-01-18, 18:42 | Link #95 | |
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And wow Joseph is a surprise! He's visibly shaken but he still went for it! I'm a chicken so I would flee the scene just like a chicken would Go Joseph! And yes, he's definitely a keeper Maria! @HandofFate Yeah pretty much that. But at the same time, it's hard thing to decide. But then again, EVERYTHING has a consequence. If she did not stop the battle, many would die but the mercenaries would have money and not raid a village. She stopped it so not many people died but the mercenary raid a random village. It's not perfect at all.
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2015-01-18, 18:48 | Link #97 | |
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So far it goes that: Maria stops battles Mercenaries attack her village Maria blinds the mercenaries Villagers intend to kill the mercenaries Maria stops them and tells them to dump them far away. Only makes sure the mercenaries go to raid another village that isn't under Maria's protection A bit simplifying it, but essentially, she's just passing the bill, and making sure killing doesn't happen in her backyard.
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2015-01-18, 20:27 | Link #99 | |
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Furthermore, we don't know why "Heaven" believes that the direct usage of magic is that disruptive. While we can be uncharitable, and theorize that it is to maintain their monopoly on the super-natural, the fact that the Witches can use Familiars without problems suggest that there might be something very problematic and very dangerous with using magic in such a blatant fashion again and again. Also, because Maria's power is so absolute, it's so easy to see how it could be abused. While it doesn't seem within Maria's character to do so, if you think back on how the other Witches seem like, were every Witch to follow Maria's logic or even go beyond, things could very ugly for the Muggles very, very quickly. I won't be surprised if the Witches were once dominant in this world long ago, and their reign was marked with horrific excesses and brutality, because there was nothing but whatever moral compasses they had restraining their power. It could well be that while Maria's reasoning is sound on the individual basis, if that reasoning was applied to Witches as a whole, we would end up with a dictatorship of the Mages on a Macro-scale level, were we to follow Maria's logic to the extreme ends, and this might well be something both Muggles, and Heaven rather not see. In other words, sure, Maria may have a firm sense of morality, but because not every single witch is Maria, their powers must be constrained as a collective whole. And this was what the Archangel was trying to explain. Would you stop the burning of your home village? How about that village two hills over? How about that city currently under siege? How about the thousands of battlefields across the world? Maria's counterpoint is that if everyone was like her, that wouldn't be happening, and the angles should be intervening. But that's an awfully naive way of seeing the world, and the supernatural used to impose order on the world by taking away free will can quickly turn into abuse. In any case, Joseph came riding down with a crossbow, as a representative of his Lord (who clearly doesn't want to see his taxpayers slaughtered by a bunch of trump up upstart bumpkins). Which I suppose is the stand in for the idea that the natural course of things is some form of authority, some form of state protecting it's members from "anarchy" - ie: the phenomena that those with arms can rape, pillage and kill freely, to put it in this show's context. Though the idea of state is quite anachronistic, and Hobbes, Locke, Roseau and Voltaire are 200 years off. Last edited by novalysis; 2015-01-18 at 20:39. |
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