The Dark Knight Rises (2012)

[Kyero Fox]

^ Face expression before you play the video = GO SEE IT

[MUAHAHAHAHAHA]

Critic sent death threats over Dark Knight Rises review.

http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/website-s...18-085946.html

[MakubeX2]

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Well, for me, it’s not surprising if TDKR can’t surpass TDK, or rather I already anticipate it. One primary reason is that there’s no Heath’s Joker in TDKR that everybody miss. In addition, this TDKR story is not “part of the plan” since the Nolan brothers originally plan The Joker to reappear in the 2nd sequel and most likely end Nolan’s Batman saga. But then, out of respect for Ledger’s towering performance, Nolan scrapped The Joker character altogether and (according to many critics’ reviews that I read) isn’t even mentioned in TDKR, at all. So yeah, Ledger’s death (just like the Joker character that he played) screwed up Nolan’s original plan and forced him to come up with TDKR. Still, I’ll def gonna see it .

[Sumeragi]

As I stated above, any fans of Knightfall would go crazy with DKR. A certain famous scene comes to mind.

[Sir Maddy]

Eeee I can't wait to see this. I've heard it's supposed to be the best film out of all The Batman films.

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Originally Posted by Sir Maddy

Eeee I can't wait to see this. I've heard it's supposed to be the best film out of all The Batman films.

If you read many critics' reviews out there, it seems that TDKR is not as good as TDK due to its more convoluted story. It doesn't change the fact that it's still an excellent movie by itself. Seriously, topping TDK's impact on the audience is a near impossible job even for Nolan himself. I still salute him for making TDKR a great movie and will totally see it. Just don't let your expectation sky-rocketting .

[kramerica]

Originally Posted by MUAHAHAHAHAHA

Critic sent death threats over Dark Knight Rises review.

http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/website-s...18-085946.html

Death threats are too much, but am I bad for laughing at people responding to them with "no, his punishment must be more severe?"

[Haladflire65]

I thought the whole death threats thing was kind of funny, too, actually. Talk about overreactions. Isn't it good enough if you enjoyed the movie? But a lot of those reviews were pretty annoying - so many unnecessary and unfair Ledger-Hardy comparisons >.>

On another note, I just saw it today. I won't spoil anything without the tags, haha. I'll just say that initially, I was pretty blown away and it gave me massive adrenalin rushes combined with some sobbing, gaping and nail-biting. BUT, if you stop to think about some of the plot points and happenings you start realizing that some parts don't really make sense/were bad writing decisions/just didn't work. Still, I loved it. Hathaway was good, I liked Bane, Bruce was great (I was happy it focused even more on him than TDK), the action was meaty, etc. It was an awesome experience, and I'm excited to discuss it more once everyone sees it

Spoiler for questions/thoughts/gripe about the ending, other thoughts, etc. spoilers:

The reason I'm confused about the ending is that even if Batman had set the Bat on autopilot, I could've sworn that there was a shot (or even several of them) of him in the cockpit when he was over the ocean. Also, if he'd fixed the autopilot, why didn't he just use it in the first place? I just didn't get how Batman got out of the thing before the bomb blew up. My friend and I were saying that perhaps he jumped off onto the buildings that he passed but then there were those shots of him in the cockpit over the ocean that I mentioned...

Oh, and I absolutely hated how they dealt with Bane's death. That was really anticlimactic and pretty terrible.

I interpreted the ending as being ambiguous; to me it was unclear whether Bruce had lived or died, mainly due to what I mentioned above. Could Alfred have been dreaming or having a fantasy at the cafe?

And another thing; wasn't the bomb a nuke? Carrying out that far to the ocean wouldn't have stopped its damage, would it?

[Sumeragi]

Originally Posted by Haladflire65

Spoiler for questions/thoughts/gripe about the ending, other thoughts, etc. spoilers:

And another thing; wasn't the bomb a nuke? Carrying out that far to the ocean wouldn't have stopped its damage, would it?

Spoiler for Response to one of the topics:

I'm not quite sure what it was, given I hadn't seen the movie itself, but from my understanding it's a development from the clean energy "fusion" reactor. It could be it's somewhat using the logic of Spiderman 2, where Ock used the water to drown the reactor and thus stop the reaction or at least reduce it. As I mentioned in a previous post, I had one small misgiving, and the reactor one was it.

[LoweGear]

Originally Posted by Haladflire65

Spoiler for questions/thoughts/gripe about the ending, other thoughts, etc. spoilers:

And another thing; wasn't the bomb a nuke? Carrying out that far to the ocean wouldn't have stopped its damage, would it?

Spoiler for Reply:

As I remember from the film, the resulting bomb was quoted to be only 4 kilotons in yield. For comparison, the Hiroshima Little Boy bomb (which is the second smallest nuke ever detonated) is around 15 kilotons. By comparison, the fusion bomb they made here is very small, likely flattening just a relatively small portion of Manhattan Island (yeah I know it's technically Gotham City) itself.

As to the autopilot, it's likely Wayne ejected out over the ocean at the last few seconds, after ensuring that the autopilot won't suddenly veer around towards the city or something.

[Sumeragi]

Originally Posted by LoweGear

Spoiler for Reply:

As I remember from the film, the resulting bomb was quoted to be only 4 kilotons in yield. For comparison, the Hiroshima Little Boy bomb (which is the second smallest nuke ever detonated) is around 15 kilotons. By comparison, the fusion bomb they made here is very small, likely flattening just a relatively small portion of Manhattan Island (yeah I know it's technically Gotham City) itself.

Spoiler for About that:

It depends. Gotham City's size had varied, but for most purposes it's only about 1/3 of Manhattan, meaning even a 4 kiloton bomb would affect over half the city.

[Haladflire65]

Spoiler for again about the end:

I think I'm okay with that explanation about the bomb, it wasn't the biggest detail there anyway XD I think I need another viewing to decide about the ending though. I like to think that Bruce didn't make it because that ending just seems far more poignant that way. Someone told me I'm going to change my mind though, we'll see about that.

It seems like the ending's pretty controversial. A lot of people were hating on Nolan for it, mostly with the introduction of Robin and Bruce living (if that's what happened). I thought it was fine (if I go with my interpretation), although I didn't care much for Blake's character. People would complain either way though - if Bruce lives, they say it's cliche, if he dies, they say that Batman's an iconic comic character that you shouldn't dare to kill. It was a no-win situation for Nolan >.>

[Yui Is My Wife]

Have not seen the movie, so don't spoil it for me please.

Having given it some thought, Bruce's philosophy is REALLY counterproductive to the point of the horrid, terrifying monster that he created.

A giant bat IS scary, no doubt.

But when you KNOW that a giant bat crashing throught the windows won't kill you, massive wings open wings shilouetted against the moonlight or not, he becomes as scary as Superman, or worse, just another beat cop who takes you to a cell with 3 meals a day.

This comforting knowledge that all that will happen to you is a familiar trip to the police-station rather than the cememtery makes it painfully clear this is NOT demonic-avenger you should be afraid of, but just a man-child playing dress-up, and your whole myth becomes a childish joke.

And this smashes the mythical, mysterious and above all supernatural point of becoming a primal beast of the night into tiny, harmless little pieces.

Notice how Boss Maroney was bored rather than afraid of Batman when he held him by his neck over the second storey fire-escape in The Dark Knight: Once you are mundane, once you show you are human, you are no longer supernatural and therefore no longer terrifying to the forces of evil.

In this sense, Michale Keaton's Batman makes much more sense than Christian Bale, as there is actually a POINT in becoming a Hideous Demonic Giant Bat, because the forces of evil will continue to believe you are a Hideous Demonice Giant Bat, and be afraid to do evil as a result.

[Ithekro]

Batman may not kill you, but he might scar you for life.


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[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

I just want to say that just like The Avengers, TDR clearly got a large chunk of its time cut out. I look forward to the DVD "full director's cut edition".

And I am happy with what they have done. Despite this story been made after the Joker's untimely existence failure, the new conclusion did everything possible to tie up the entire trilogy with a neat pink ribbon bow.

What's important to me isn't that Gotham is saved;

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What's important is that Bruce Wayne found peace. And that he is no longer alone; he decided to put his trust in people. And his trust was ultimately rewarded despite betrayals on the way there.

And just to add, the heels on Catwoman... My understanding is that they are a pair of solid metal blades, and as such she uses them as concealed weapos. Pity we never get a good look at them.
(The internet complains that they are uncomfortable, dangerous and impractical for fighting. But I think they got the wrong idea. Catwoman doesn't wear heels because it is part of her costume; she wear heels because it is part of her "Highclass Woman" disguise. She is forced to wear heels the same way men are force to wear neckties. It is necessary for Selina Kyle.)


And finally? I actually like the bike more than The Bat. It did more cool things. And as far as I can tell, it is real.

[Destined_Fate]

Spoiler:

So they used the abandoned Bane and Tali love thing that never went through in the comics. Strange that they took out Talia being in love with Bruce and just had her use him.

Also, strange that they didn't use Dick as the Robin at the end of the trilogy but a combination of Tim Drake and Jason Todd. Furthermore, did Bruce retire from being Batman fully and moved on with Selina? Seems like Blake is on his own now as Robin when it ends.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Originally Posted by Destined_Fate

Spoiler:

So they used the abandoned Bane and Tali love thing that never went through in the comics. Strange that they took out Talia being in love with Bruce and just had her use him.

Also, strange that they didn't use Dick as the Robin at the end of the trilogy but a combination of Tim Drake and Jason Todd. Furthermore, did Bruce retire from being Batman fully and moved on with Selina? Seems like Blake is on his own now as Robin when it ends.

Spoiler for discussion:

The whole Robin thing is suppose to be a surprise, so they didn't use a known Robin name. And anyway he isn't any of the Comic robins; he is his own character.
As far as I can tell, Bruce didn't retire as such. He simply decided instead of being a Hikikomori in between Supervillains, that he would just take holidays instead. You bet he would fly back in the first sign of trouble. He just has a LIFE now.

As for Blake... He can keep the cave tidy until Bruce comes back. He wouldn't suddenly become Robin; that's too soon. It's all about future conflicts, not what would happen tomorrow.

EDIT: I am not sure. But I suspect the old police officer who first saw Batman in TDKR and say to "get ready for a big show", is the same character and actor as the one in Batman Begins, who was the first cop to see the Begins Batmobile.

[hero147]

The Dark Knight brings out the worst in people. There was a shooting in Denver killing 12 people at a Batman midnight screening.

Source: http://ca.news.yahoo.com/ten-killed-...083043066.html

[LoweGear]

Originally Posted by hero147

The Dark Knight brings out the worst in people. There was a shooting in Denver killing 12 people at a Batman midnight screening.

Source: http://ca.news.yahoo.com/ten-killed-...083043066.html

There's no evidence that it was The Dark Knight Rises that was the cause of the shooting, so I don't think "brings out the worst in people" is a good thing to say about it. For all we know, this crazed gunman could have done this at any other movie showing.