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Keroko · 2011-12-29, 05:50

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Originally Posted by Key Board

Honestly, though.. there's no way adult mode should be healthy for her natural development.

Vivio is a special case, but when other people are doing it... you have to wonder what they are sacrificing

I don't see why not. Spending long periods of time as a ferret did nothing to weaken Yuuno either after all. And it's not as if she's skipping out on training in her younger form either.

I'm with RD here, it's just transformation magic. Not some super secret only accessible by Belkan royalty kind of thing.

Key Board · 2011-12-29, 09:21

IIRC, Vivio's greatest strength is her processing power

Her lag-time for Divine Buster caliber spells is insanely brief, and hits hard

this is why she is a counter attack specialist, a trait that is mentioned by Touma in the Nanoha PSP game

Sunder the Gold · 2011-12-29, 13:32

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Originally Posted by Keroko

I don't see why not. Spending long periods of time as a ferret did nothing to weaken Yuuno either after all. And it's not as if she's skipping out on training in her younger form either.

I'm with RD here, it's just transformation magic. Not some super secret only accessible by Belkan royalty kind of thing.

Agreed. The royalty thing is that I beleive they made the spell genetically inuitive, so that no one would have to teach Vivio (or Olivie, Klaus or Einhart) the spell.

Or is Adult Mode supposed to be different from Sankt Kaiser Mode? If so, then Sankt Kaiser Mode, and the Kaiser Armor, are the genetic additions.

Keroko · 2011-12-29, 13:43

Sankt Kiaser mode is Vivio connected to the Cradle and it empowering her and downloading stuff into her head for combat, if I recall.

Sunder the Gold · 2011-12-29, 15:11

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Originally Posted by Keroko

Sankt Kiaser mode is Vivio connected to the Cradle and it empowering her and downloading stuff into her head for combat, if I recall.

Downloading stuff? You mean like the spells that the Nanoha wiki tells me she learned totally on her own just from watching videos of other mages casting them in battle?

Kuze · 2011-12-29, 16:02

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Originally Posted by 00-Raiser

Was it really necessary to photoshop Olivie's face for that?

Hey, all I did was move her pupils nine pixels over, in MS Paint. One minute of work. Her facial expression does the rest.

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Originally Posted by Justin Brett

...what's the point of adding DERP to something you made look derpy?

Oh come on, you've seen chapter 29 already. I barely had to do anything for that.

Which could be kinda strange, considering that there was nothing wrong with her appearance during the first flashback with Claus or that painting of her, but then again, sometimes mangaka just get worse with time.

Keroko · 2011-12-29, 16:14

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Originally Posted by Sunder the Gold

Downloading stuff? You mean like the spells that the Nanoha wiki tells me she learned totally on her own just from watching videos of other mages casting them in battle?

There's that, but there was also a Cradle defense program running to assist her in combat. That's what took over when the reactor got hammered.

Justin_Brett · 2011-12-29, 17:07

You could make anyone look freaky moving their pupils by that much.

Sunder the Gold · 2011-12-29, 21:31

I'm not expecting or asking anything to change when I complain about this, buuuut...

It's kind of annoying to have people openly discussing what happens 7+ chapters after the chapters which are translated into English -- the ones I can actually read.

Means that I have to completely avoid this thread if I want to be somewhat surpised when the next chapter is available in a language I can understand.

Shadow Angel · 2011-12-30, 03:26

So, when are we going to get to see Rio fight anyone?

Key Board · 2011-12-31, 18:24

If I were to guess, I'm guessing they are reserving the witch girl for her

edit: Lio is in the same group as banchou girl (Harry Tribecca)

Akiyoshi · 2011-12-31, 19:19

I've have sort of a feeling that Witch-girl will fight against Lutecia xD

Key Board · 2011-12-31, 20:58

Oh, good call

I almost forgot Lutecia existed...

...

what?

I'm sure I'm not the only one

Lycodrake · 2011-12-31, 20:58

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Originally Posted by Key Board

Oh, good call

I almost forgot Lutecia existed...

...

what?

I'm sure I'm not the only one

Isn't it sad, Lutecchin?

Akiyoshi · 2011-12-31, 21:24

I won't forget about her, and surely hope for it to be a glamorous battle xD! Lu-chan my be not the strongest but she's such a show off i'm pretty sure her battles will be plenty of entertainment xD

Sunder the Gold · 2011-12-31, 23:38

I wonder what a summoner does in a duel in a small circle. Can't really go all out with tank bugs or kaiju bugs. Does she handicap herself to just teaming up with Garyu?

Justin_Brett · 2011-12-31, 23:40

Well, that's neater than if Caro had ever joined. Her smallest summon is still bigger than a car.

Key Board · 2011-12-31, 23:46

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Originally Posted by Sunder the Gold

I wonder what a summoner does in a duel in a small circle. Can't really go all out with tank bugs or kaiju bugs. Does she handicap herself to just teaming up with Garyu?

Well, the translation isn't there yet, but Corona and Einhart had an epic battle that tore the arena apart.

Rising Dragon · 2011-12-31, 23:52

Lutecia still has offensive spells of her own, such as Todesdolch, Shockwave, and Reflect Mirage. She can fight without Garyuu.

Key Board · 2012-01-01, 01:23

I don't think the DSAA rules are clear regarding familiars

The true witch clearly had a few familiars with her

perhaps it's like golem creation

if you can summon them during battle it's fine, but probably only if they don't go over a certain limit

because Lutecia summoning her dragon wouldn't be fair

2011-12-29, 09:21	Link #1682
Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	IIRC, Vivio's greatest strength is her processing power Her lag-time for Divine Buster caliber spells is insanely brief, and hits hard this is why she is a counter attack specialist, a trait that is mentioned by Touma in the Nanoha PSP game __________________ "Legitimacy is based on three things. First of all, the people who are asked to obey authority have to feel like they have a voice—that if they speak up, they will be heard. Second, the law has to be predictable. There has to be a reasonable expectation that the rules tomorrow are going to be roughly the same as the rules today. And third, the authority has to be fair. It can’t treat one group differently from another.” Malcolm Gladwell

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Shadow Angel Hellraiser Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Within The Shadows of Darkness Age: 42	So, when are we going to get to see Rio fight anyone? __________________

2011-12-31, 18:24	Link #1691
Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	If I were to guess, I'm guessing they are reserving the witch girl for her edit: Lio is in the same group as banchou girl (Harry Tribecca) __________________ "Legitimacy is based on three things. First of all, the people who are asked to obey authority have to feel like they have a voice—that if they speak up, they will be heard. Second, the law has to be predictable. There has to be a reasonable expectation that the rules tomorrow are going to be roughly the same as the rules today. And third, the authority has to be fair. It can’t treat one group differently from another.” Malcolm Gladwell Last edited by Key Board; 2011-12-31 at 18:37.

2011-12-31, 19:19	Link #1692
Akiyoshi The Flame Crussader Join Date: Aug 2009	I've have sort of a feeling that Witch-girl will fight against Lutecia xD __________________ May 29 2010-2019 ...9 years ago, the day after never would be the same ~The ASFB~

2011-12-31, 20:58	Link #1693
Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	Oh, good call I almost forgot Lutecia existed... ... what? I'm sure I'm not the only one __________________ "Legitimacy is based on three things. First of all, the people who are asked to obey authority have to feel like they have a voice—that if they speak up, they will be heard. Second, the law has to be predictable. There has to be a reasonable expectation that the rules tomorrow are going to be roughly the same as the rules today. And third, the authority has to be fair. It can’t treat one group differently from another.” Malcolm Gladwell

2011-12-29, 13:43	Link #1684
Keroko Adeptus Animus Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	Sankt Kiaser mode is Vivio connected to the Cradle and it empowering her and downloading stuff into her head for combat, if I recall.

2011-12-29, 17:07	Link #1688
Justin_Brett Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Canada, Sault Ste. Marie	You could make anyone look freaky moving their pupils by that much.

2011-12-29, 21:31	Link #1689
Sunder the Gold Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	I'm not expecting or asking anything to change when I complain about this, buuuut... It's kind of annoying to have people openly discussing what happens 7+ chapters after the chapters which are translated into English -- the ones I can actually read. Means that I have to completely avoid this thread if I want to be somewhat surpised when the next chapter is available in a language I can understand.

2011-12-31, 21:24	Link #1695
Akiyoshi The Flame Crussader Join Date: Aug 2009	I won't forget about her, and surely hope for it to be a glamorous battle xD! Lu-chan my be not the strongest but she's such a show off i'm pretty sure her battles will be plenty of entertainment xD __________________ May 29 2010-2019 ...9 years ago, the day after never would be the same ~The ASFB~

2011-12-31, 23:38	Link #1696
Sunder the Gold Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	I wonder what a summoner does in a duel in a small circle. Can't really go all out with tank bugs or kaiju bugs. Does she handicap herself to just teaming up with Garyu?

2011-12-31, 23:40	Link #1697
Justin_Brett Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Canada, Sault Ste. Marie	Well, that's neater than if Caro had ever joined. Her smallest summon is still bigger than a car.

2011-12-31, 23:52	Link #1699
Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	Lutecia still has offensive spells of her own, such as Todesdolch, Shockwave, and Reflect Mirage. She can fight without Garyuu. __________________

2012-01-01, 01:23	Link #1700
Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	I don't think the DSAA rules are clear regarding familiars The true witch clearly had a few familiars with her perhaps it's like golem creation if you can summon them during battle it's fine, but probably only if they don't go over a certain limit because Lutecia summoning her dragon wouldn't be fair __________________ "Legitimacy is based on three things. First of all, the people who are asked to obey authority have to feel like they have a voice—that if they speak up, they will be heard. Second, the law has to be predictable. There has to be a reasonable expectation that the rules tomorrow are going to be roughly the same as the rules today. And third, the authority has to be fair. It can’t treat one group differently from another.” Malcolm Gladwell