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surerman · 2009-08-12, 13:18

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Originally Posted by bebichocpha

bc u are not real otaku

You make me smile, thanks. Wanna join our A-Tan fans?

Honestly I don't know if I can call my self an Otaku. I'm sure like to read Manga and watch Anime but feel a person that buy Figurine or Nendoroid as stupid

to buy something that didn't very useful (except if you want to make 3D model of your fav. character). May be I can call my self Half-Otaku...a dangerous one

btw any spoiler Primuler-bro? or some one else?, that spoiler picture above didn't have enough resolution in my display. Text will better

Tom Bombadil · 2009-08-12, 14:05

Someone translated the ch237 spoiler into Chinese here. I think I'll share it by here translating the Chinese into English.

Spoiler for Diarrhea alert for poor language cooking skills.:

Maydie · 2009-08-12, 14:20

This might be a dumb question, but I think I skipped the part that tells us why A-Tan needs to get the stone. Just cuz of the money? or it has some special power?

cynicalicious · 2009-08-12, 14:24

The way things usually go, I'm betting that just as Hina confesses, or starts to, A-tan walks by. Hayate says "A-tan?" A-tan is stunned for a second, either by Hina's confession or Hayate's presence, while Hina puts 2 and 2 together and figures out that something happened with Hayate and A-tan previously. (And that's why Athena wigged out when she called her "A-tan.") Probably lots of tears and running away by both womenfolk, leaving Hayate alone and even more confused. (And probably bruised-- I'm sure both will get a punch or two in.)

Things will have to get MUCH worse before they can even hope to get better. Besides, there's nothing like the awkwardness between Hina and Hayate.

Maydie · 2009-08-12, 14:25

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Originally Posted by Tom Bombadil

Someone translated the ch237 spoiler into Chinese here. I think I'll share it by here translating the Chinese into English.

Spoiler for Diarrhea alert for poor language cooking skills.:

Wow.. thank you for translating those!

Maydie · 2009-08-12, 14:29

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Originally Posted by cynicalicious

The way things usually go, I'm betting that just as Hina confesses, or starts to, A-tan walks by. Hayate says "A-tan?" A-tan is stunned for a second, either by Hina's confession or Hayate's presence, while Hina puts 2 and 2 together and figures out that something happened with Hayate and A-tan previously. (And that's why Athena wigged out when she called her "A-tan.") Probably lots of tears and running away by both womenfolk, leaving Hayate alone and even more confused. (And probably bruised-- I'm sure both will get a punch or two in.)

Things will have to get MUCH worse before they can even hope to get better. Besides, there's nothing like the awkwardness between Hina and Hayate.

I don't know about lots of tears, but I agree with you that A-Tan will walk by and see Hayate and Hina dating. Besides, the restaurant is suppose to be "very luxurious" according to the previous chapters.

Mentar · 2009-08-12, 14:32

Whoa! Well, I guess Hata made me eat my last posting, then...

Spoiler for chapter237:

Game8910 · 2009-08-12, 14:47

Oh boy this is going to get ugly really soon. And im loving it!!!

3 outcomes can come from this.

1. Athena happens to show up right before confession (not necessarily because she saw them, she could just be hungry and decides to walk in). By Hayate's expression Hinagiku realizes how they were related.
2. Hayate sees Athena somewhere outside and decides to chase after her. (Hinagiku left alone with o_o face).
3. Hina successfully confesses and becomes Ayumu #2. Because Hayate wont accept anyone if he doesnt meet Athena first.

Either way Hinagiku fans are sure to rage soon

Mentar · 2009-08-12, 15:07

Hardly. I'm a Hina fan, and I know that if Hina does confess, there's no way Hayate could accept right now. And I haven't seen any Hina fan who believes that Hayate could accept. So, there's no "rage" potential in me.

And sorry, dear A-tan fans, I don't see Athena as the real obstacle, I honestly not even see her in the running. Why? Because the REAL roadblock is Hayate's devotion to Nagi - not of the romantic side, but the "care for her" side. Unless Nagi "releases" Hayate in some way, freeing him up to pursue a romantic relationship, it will not happen. Simple as that.

Likewise, I see no snowball's chance in hell that Hayate would desert Nagi for Athena. This won't happen either, I consider this even more unlikely. Athena would be Nagi's symmetrical opponent, and she will never allow this to happen, unless there are huge twists in the story.

Whatever is going to happen, it will only be a moment's glimpse, and at best trigger new long-reaching developments. But it will not _decide_ anything now. No way. And so, no rage.

Rah · 2009-08-12, 15:32

I get the feeling that even if Nagi were to "release" Hayate, he would still stay by her side regardless..

We don't know much about Maria, but she's going to leave Nagi one day, and make her own future. Nagi already said this, and it can't be more true. If the stones don't resurrect someone, then Nagi will be left all alone if Hayate goes with someone, and when later Maria leaves. A relationship where Hayate were to remain Nagi's butler, and still date someone else.. is unlikely.

What I'm trying to say is that everyone needs some sort of pairing, either family or love. In this case the love is one sided, but as long as that's not revealed, it's still ok, though not absolute, and becomes fragile over time.

Point: Every love relationship will fail, or come to a hold. It's only a type of filler until the main issues are resolved (stones, parents, misunderstandings, ...).

Though even with this said, if Nagi were to confess to him.. ... well.. that would be a really horrible scenario.

But, well, love develops over time, like all bonds do. So it's not impossible for a Hayate x Nagi pairing. He just didn't give any thought to it, because, well.. he's Hayate. Lol.

Maydie · 2009-08-12, 16:14

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Originally Posted by Rah

I get the feeling that even if Nagi were to "release" Hayate, he would still stay by her side regardless..

We don't know much about Maria, but she's going to leave Nagi one day, and make her own future. Nagi already said this, and it can't be more true. If the stones don't resurrect someone, then Nagi will be left all alone if Hayate goes with someone, and when later Maria leaves. A relationship where Hayate were to remain Nagi's butler, and still date someone else.. is unlikely.

What I'm trying to say is that everyone needs some sort of pairing, either family or love. In this case the love is one sided, but as long as that's not revealed, it's still ok, though not absolute, and becomes fragile over time.

Point: Every love relationship will fail, or come to a hold. It's only a type of filler until the main issues are resolved (stones, parents, misunderstandings, ...).

Though even with this said, if Nagi were to confess to him.. ... well.. that would be a really horrible scenario.

But, well, love develops over time, like all bonds do. So it's not impossible for a Hayate x Nagi pairing. He just didn't give any thought to it, because, well.. he's Hayate. Lol.

Yea I agree with you that Hayate will do his brother ^0^

Tom Bombadil · 2009-08-12, 16:49

Let me clear something here in case there is some misunderstanding. Sorry if I am just explaining what's obvious.

Spoiler for confession or not:

Rah · 2009-08-12, 17:13

It looks like it's thought. Perhaps it was said on a previous page for real, and Ayumu is recalling it.. for whatever the reason is. Or it's her imagination over a few pages. Like for example, her imagining them having a good time, and then it comes to that, and Hayate accepts her feelings.

Or..... Nagi & Ayumu were feeling uneasy, and went spying on them. How about this misunderstanding: Ayumu tried lip reading and read Hina say "I love you so much", instead of "I love this food so much".

Evil spoiler is torturing me! What could it be? Can we expect an early raw, like the early spoiler? ...... Ah, who am I kidding. Next week... *sigh* How I'd like a time machine now.

Maydie · 2009-08-12, 17:42

I bet.. "I love you so much" - Ayumu with a strawberry icecream

IndoViking · 2009-08-12, 19:02

From what i read, it looks like the "confession" is just what Hina thought inside her heart... because she uses "koto" after saying "anata no koto ga suki datte". It was not in a bubble too, which makes me inclined to think it is not said loudly.

bebichocpha · 2009-08-12, 19:37

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You make me smile, thanks. Wanna join our A-Tan fans?

Honestly I don't know if I can call my self an Otaku. I'm sure like to read Manga and watch Anime but feel a person that buy Figurine or Nendoroid as stupid to buy something that didn't very useful (except if you want to make 3D model of your fav. character). May be I can call my self Half-Otaku...a dangerous one

btw any spoiler Primuler-bro? or some one else?, that spoiler picture above didn't have enough resolution in my display. Text will better

thank u for your compliment but i 'm hina fan

i think i just like u, i'm not really otaku who looking for new manga all the time, just some manga which animax show

To surerman : nice to meet u

Teleutao · 2009-08-12, 20:20

I think the whole Nagi road block won't be a problem once the end run starts. Thanks to the wonders of character development, she will realize that she has friends and even when they aren't living with her Hayate and Maria will still care about her and will not simply disappear. Right now she has fears and doubts from her mother dying but I'm sure this will get resolved and she will be okay with Hayate and Maria dating (possibly each other, we'll see).

By the way, is anyone else creeped out by the fact that Nagi is attracted to Hayate? I don't mean the age thing, it's the fact that he looks like her mom, and it's said that that was the reason she likes him and trusted him so easily. I also heard something about a picture of her dad looking like Hayate too, it's seriously messed up. I think Doctor Freud would have a few things to say to her.

No matter what happens though, I want to see both Hayate and Hinagiku get a happy ending, even if they don't end up together. The manga started with the entire universe being made to make Hayate suffer, he's like the Black Mage of this series. Ever since her birthday arc, Hina's been like this too with the entire world out to make her feel awkward, uncomfortable and guilty. While it is incredibly cute when she gets like that I still feel that she deserves something for everything she's had to go through. I say her and Hayate hook up and at least comfort each other before the universe does something even worse.

Rah · 2009-08-12, 21:26

So..... Nagi's father is Hayate's brother, which I presume looks similar to Hayate. He is an irresponsible bastard who left Nagi all alone, because he's still grieving over the loss of Yukariko. That would answer why he isn't shown anywhere. Perhaps he's even involved with the whole stone business to somehow bring her back.

So if that's true, then a Hayate x Nagi pairing is out of the question, because they are relatives.

Athena end is looking more and more likely. Izumi is light years away, Hinagiku is Ayumu #2, Ayumu is Ayumu #1 (lol). Add Hayate's brother = Nagi's father to the picture, and remove Machina, for Athena end.

Well I'm probably wrong, since Nagi's mom looks like Hayate as well. ... sigh

Why the heck do they look like him though? Those stones being as important as they are, why would Mikado hand one over to Hayate just like that? I'm not satisfied with it being just a plain coincidence.

... Oh well.. time will tell.

bebichocpha · 2009-08-12, 21:42

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By the way, is anyone else creeped out by the fact that Nagi is attracted to Hayate? I don't mean the age thing, it's the fact that he looks like her mom, and it's said that that was the reason she likes him and trusted him so easily. I also heard something about a picture of her dad looking like Hayate too, it's seriously messed up. I think Doctor Freud would have a few things to say to her.

yeah i think nagi and hayate will be good friend or something like that just like in Midori Day

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No matter what happens though, I want to see both Hayate and Hinagiku get a happy ending, even if they don't end up together. The manga started with the entire universe being made to make Hayate suffer, he's like the Black Mage of this series. Ever since her birthday arc, Hina's been like this too with the entire world out to make her feel awkward, uncomfortable and guilty. While it is incredibly cute when she gets like that I still feel that she deserves something for everything she's had to go through. I say her and Hayate hook up and at least comfort each other before the universe does something even worse.

most of HnG fan wants to see that ending

sr if i 'm ron xD xD

Rah · 2009-08-13, 07:54

After reading the latest chapter, I believe that he's going to ask Hina for advice, thus preventing her from confessing. By giving advice to him, Maria ruined, or saved the evening?

Which would be better?

a) Hina confessing, and potentially becoming Ayumu #2
b) Hayate asking for relationship advice from a girl that loves him
c) ?

Hina gets hurt in the end either way.

2009-08-12, 14:05	Link #1942
Tom Bombadil Senior Member Join Date: May 2007	Someone translated the ch237 spoiler into Chinese here. I think I'll share it by here translating the Chinese into English. Spoiler for Diarrhea alert for poor language cooking skills.: Ayumu: I wish I can go to dinner in a pretty dress with Hayate, too. Nagi: Shut up, brat. Ayumu: I also helped Hayate before. Hina is too crafty. Nagi: Stop dripping tears like a spoiled kid. Nagi: I can bear with Hina going with Hayate, but aboslutely not OK with you. Ayumu: eeeeh? How come? Nagi: If Hayate goes with you, he'll be in danger. Ayumu: What are you saying? I am not a female carnivore. 7:00pm. Hina: Sorry for keep you waiting. Hina: What? Hayate: Nothing. Hayate: Because you are so gorgeous in that dress. I lost myself in a second. Hina: Baka. Stopping saying such embarrassing things. Hayate: Yes. Please follow me. Hina: Saying "I lost myself in a second" so casually, in end, is because you are not aware a bit of my feelings. Hina: How happy I am when hearing that, yet you knows nothing about it. Hina: Because of that, to let you know how I feel... (Not sure who says this to whom): I love you so much. __________________

2009-08-12, 14:32	Link #1947
Mentar Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Hamburg Age: 54	Whoa! Well, I guess Hata made me eat my last posting, then... Spoiler for chapter237: Assuming that this isn't some cheap trick (like a quote from a pair at another table, or someone unrelated), this is quite a dam burst. If that's indeed Hina (I doubt that it could be Hayate at this point), she put it down more clearly and openly than even Ayumu did in the past. Blammo. However, some doubts of mine remain. First of all, the surprised face cut off below the confession looks like Ayumu to me - it's clearly neither Hina nor Hayate. Also, the talk leading up to the scene rather looks like THOUGHTS from Hina... Something's not right here. The wait for c238 won't be any easier now ^_^;

2009-08-12, 14:47	Link #1948
Game8910 Shanacon/Ariafag Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: a room full of despair Age: 34	Oh boy this is going to get ugly really soon. And im loving it!!! 3 outcomes can come from this. 1. Athena happens to show up right before confession (not necessarily because she saw them, she could just be hungry and decides to walk in). By Hayate's expression Hinagiku realizes how they were related. 2. Hayate sees Athena somewhere outside and decides to chase after her. (Hinagiku left alone with o_o face). 3. Hina successfully confesses and becomes Ayumu #2. Because Hayate wont accept anyone if he doesnt meet Athena first. Either way Hinagiku fans are sure to rage soon __________________ HEY GUYS BE NICE AND VISIT MY BLOG WILL YA? Latest Update: Spring 2011 Impressions (part1) Spring 2011 Impressions (part2)

2009-08-12, 14:20	Link #1943
Maydie Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009	This might be a dumb question, but I think I skipped the part that tells us why A-Tan needs to get the stone. Just cuz of the money? or it has some special power?

2009-08-12, 14:24	Link #1944
cynicalicious I like pie. Join Date: Nov 2004	The way things usually go, I'm betting that just as Hina confesses, or starts to, A-tan walks by. Hayate says "A-tan?" A-tan is stunned for a second, either by Hina's confession or Hayate's presence, while Hina puts 2 and 2 together and figures out that something happened with Hayate and A-tan previously. (And that's why Athena wigged out when she called her "A-tan.") Probably lots of tears and running away by both womenfolk, leaving Hayate alone and even more confused. (And probably bruised-- I'm sure both will get a punch or two in.) Things will have to get MUCH worse before they can even hope to get better. Besides, there's nothing like the awkwardness between Hina and Hayate.

2009-08-12, 15:07	Link #1949
Mentar Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Hamburg Age: 54	Hardly. I'm a Hina fan, and I know that if Hina does confess, there's no way Hayate could accept right now. And I haven't seen any Hina fan who believes that Hayate could accept. So, there's no "rage" potential in me. And sorry, dear A-tan fans, I don't see Athena as the real obstacle, I honestly not even see her in the running. Why? Because the REAL roadblock is Hayate's devotion to Nagi - not of the romantic side, but the "care for her" side. Unless Nagi "releases" Hayate in some way, freeing him up to pursue a romantic relationship, it will not happen. Simple as that. Likewise, I see no snowball's chance in hell that Hayate would desert Nagi for Athena. This won't happen either, I consider this even more unlikely. Athena would be Nagi's symmetrical opponent, and she will never allow this to happen, unless there are huge twists in the story. Whatever is going to happen, it will only be a moment's glimpse, and at best trigger new long-reaching developments. But it will not _decide_ anything now. No way. And so, no rage.

2009-08-12, 15:32	Link #1950
Rah Are you a lolicon? :3 Join Date: Aug 2009	I get the feeling that even if Nagi were to "release" Hayate, he would still stay by her side regardless.. We don't know much about Maria, but she's going to leave Nagi one day, and make her own future. Nagi already said this, and it can't be more true. If the stones don't resurrect someone, then Nagi will be left all alone if Hayate goes with someone, and when later Maria leaves. A relationship where Hayate were to remain Nagi's butler, and still date someone else.. is unlikely. What I'm trying to say is that everyone needs some sort of pairing, either family or love. In this case the love is one sided, but as long as that's not revealed, it's still ok, though not absolute, and becomes fragile over time. Point: Every love relationship will fail, or come to a hold. It's only a type of filler until the main issues are resolved (stones, parents, misunderstandings, ...). Though even with this said, if Nagi were to confess to him.. ... well.. that would be a really horrible scenario. But, well, love develops over time, like all bonds do. So it's not impossible for a Hayate x Nagi pairing. He just didn't give any thought to it, because, well.. he's Hayate. Lol.

2009-08-12, 17:13	Link #1953
Rah Are you a lolicon? :3 Join Date: Aug 2009	It looks like it's thought. Perhaps it was said on a previous page for real, and Ayumu is recalling it.. for whatever the reason is. Or it's her imagination over a few pages. Like for example, her imagining them having a good time, and then it comes to that, and Hayate accepts her feelings. Or..... Nagi & Ayumu were feeling uneasy, and went spying on them. How about this misunderstanding: Ayumu tried lip reading and read Hina say "I love you so much", instead of "I love this food so much". Evil spoiler is torturing me! What could it be? Can we expect an early raw, like the early spoiler? ...... Ah, who am I kidding. Next week... sigh How I'd like a time machine now.

2009-08-12, 17:42	Link #1954
Maydie Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009	I bet.. "I love you so much" - Ayumu with a strawberry icecream

2009-08-12, 19:02	Link #1955
IndoViking Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Indonesia (hence my name) Age: 32	From what i read, it looks like the "confession" is just what Hina thought inside her heart... because she uses "koto" after saying "anata no koto ga suki datte". It was not in a bubble too, which makes me inclined to think it is not said loudly.

2009-08-12, 20:20	Link #1957
Teleutao Ninja-In-Training Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ...In America!	I think the whole Nagi road block won't be a problem once the end run starts. Thanks to the wonders of character development, she will realize that she has friends and even when they aren't living with her Hayate and Maria will still care about her and will not simply disappear. Right now she has fears and doubts from her mother dying but I'm sure this will get resolved and she will be okay with Hayate and Maria dating (possibly each other, we'll see). By the way, is anyone else creeped out by the fact that Nagi is attracted to Hayate? I don't mean the age thing, it's the fact that he looks like her mom, and it's said that that was the reason she likes him and trusted him so easily. I also heard something about a picture of her dad looking like Hayate too, it's seriously messed up. I think Doctor Freud would have a few things to say to her. No matter what happens though, I want to see both Hayate and Hinagiku get a happy ending, even if they don't end up together. The manga started with the entire universe being made to make Hayate suffer, he's like the Black Mage of this series. Ever since her birthday arc, Hina's been like this too with the entire world out to make her feel awkward, uncomfortable and guilty. While it is incredibly cute when she gets like that I still feel that she deserves something for everything she's had to go through. I say her and Hayate hook up and at least comfort each other before the universe does something even worse.

2009-08-12, 21:26	Link #1958
Rah Are you a lolicon? :3 Join Date: Aug 2009	So..... Nagi's father is Hayate's brother, which I presume looks similar to Hayate. He is an irresponsible bastard who left Nagi all alone, because he's still grieving over the loss of Yukariko. That would answer why he isn't shown anywhere. Perhaps he's even involved with the whole stone business to somehow bring her back. So if that's true, then a Hayate x Nagi pairing is out of the question, because they are relatives. Athena end is looking more and more likely. Izumi is light years away, Hinagiku is Ayumu #2, Ayumu is Ayumu #1 (lol). Add Hayate's brother = Nagi's father to the picture, and remove Machina, for Athena end. Well I'm probably wrong, since Nagi's mom looks like Hayate as well. ... sigh Why the heck do they look like him though? Those stones being as important as they are, why would Mikado hand one over to Hayate just like that? I'm not satisfied with it being just a plain coincidence. ... Oh well.. time will tell.

2009-08-13, 07:54	Link #1960
Rah Are you a lolicon? :3 Join Date: Aug 2009	After reading the latest chapter, I believe that he's going to ask Hina for advice, thus preventing her from confessing. By giving advice to him, Maria ruined, or saved the evening? Which would be better? a) Hina confessing, and potentially becoming Ayumu #2 b) Hayate asking for relationship advice from a girl that loves him c) ? Hina gets hurt in the end either way.