Vivid Strike! - Episode 9 Discussion / Poll

[Kairin]

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[B214]

Half an episode with Rinne being depressed till Einhart talks or rather negotiate her out of it. And thus we finally reach Fuuka vs Rinne except it's not on an official match. From the looks of things, Fuuka is the one with the advantage but for some reason i feel like Rinne will be the one who wins the fight.

[FlareKnight]

Well not surprising at this stage that the story stays pretty tight on Rinne. We get a pretty full picture of her current mindset; from the fight with Vivio through to the start of the fight with Fuka. Not surprising after last week...she basically fell apart. Probably a combination of losing through KO and thus reviving that trauma and also losing to the same person twice. Certainly feeling like she hasn't gotten anywhere.

I am curious about Fuka's mindset. We really don't get into her head much during this episode. Obviously she still wants to fight Rinne...but that's about all I've got. I don't know if her words at the end are her trying to antagonize Rinne or because she's just legitimately pissed at her current mindset. It could be an effort to draw out everything Rinne has been pushing down and not dealing with. Draw out some legitimate anger out of her and make it possible to work through this. Or she could just be frustrated with Rinne. I don't know.

Einhart's plan was pretty solid. It was about the only way to lure out Rinne and get her to take a fight right now. Not sure anyone could have really convinced her not to quit. I mean...if she's not enjoying it, she's miserable in general...hard to say "keep on fighting."

On the positive side...they've got a lot of room for this fight. They can really just go nuts and get really destructive. Hopefully it's a very long fight. Considering that yet again....Fuka's previous fight got glossed over. Amazingly she makes it to the final....and we've only seen her fight once.

[4th Dimension]

Fuka is really getting shafted with how little time she is getting. Instead of introducing a credible opponent to her so we could see how and why she is good, the fight is resolved in a prologue. So Fuka's entire tournament sans her potential match vs Einhart is boiled down to one fight in the beginning and no fight presented her with a challenge. And then instead of showing how good Fuka is we are treated to Corona and friends again singing her praises. This is not how you do stories. Show don't tell.

There is some movement with Rinne's character when she realizes that neither victories nor defeats mean anything to her and she feels empty. That is depression. You solve that through getting help not punches to the head.
Apparently what hurt Rinne the most is that this is twice that she lost to a younger competitor. I hope they mean less experienced because that is the only thing that matters, but we were never told Rinne more expirienced. She allways felt like a new threat. But if it is actual age that bothers her that is bullshit Rinne.

They try comparing Rinne to Einhart, when Rinne asks Victoria about the Ein AS IF SHE HAS NOT RESEARCHED HER ALREADY. Oh well, still while the comparision has some merit it does not work completelly since Ein despite being alone was never this uncaring about others. Or it might be just me.


The entire Einhart's plan was stupid. And I'm in full agreement with Nove that it is pointlessly reckless to promise Rinne a championship fight if the wins over Fuka. Bi*** gave her word. They are trying to make me feel sympathetic to Jill too. "Oh no I tried so hard to make Rinne into a ruthless destroyer of people. I'm now so sad I failed her BUhu" I couldn't care less. She even had the audacity to come to the hospital where Vivio and Miura are to "apologise" for their injuries through cake. Ughrhrhrhrhr.

Good news. At least the older competitors were fun in their antics so that is something. In the end the match is set on the Alpine training course/cityblock and they basically gather all the competitors from Vivid, bot the old competitor cast and the new one. Yes that also includes the witch Croz. They even bait us with like 10s of Sig walking through the course. She doesn't do anything but she is a welcome distraction.

Since the fight is outside the tournament we might actually get to see some damned magic finally. They even reminded us that Rinne knows how to throw medium range magic attacks and is good with even them. Which is one of the eraly reasons I disliked her since she felt like too much of a Mary Sue that could do everything and was invunerable.

In the end the fight starts they exchange throwing each others at walls and Fuka FINALLY gets to call her on her stupid shit:
"You look down on and show contempt for others, but you give up easily when things get hard for you. I'm gonna destroy your spoiled attitude!"
DAYYYYYMMM You go girl. Let's hope they don't pull some sort of shit to get you to loose to Rinne. She needs shutting down and not to be rewarded with being allowed to have a shot at the title of the Champion. But than again we have three more episodes so that is likely.

[Endscape]

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

I am curious about Fuka's mindset. We really don't get into her head much during this episode. Obviously she still wants to fight Rinne...but that's about all I've got. I don't know if her words at the end are her trying to antagonize Rinne or because she's just legitimately pissed at her current mindset. It could be an effort to draw out everything Rinne has been pushing down and not dealing with. Draw out some legitimate anger out of her and make it possible to work through this. Or she could just be frustrated with Rinne. I don't know.

I'm pretty sure Fuuka is annoyed with Rinne, and she has every right to be.

Rinne promised to fight her if she lost in the tournament and then when she does end up losing she decides not to bother until Einhart flashes a title match at her, and then she turns away from her after one down. Anyone would be irritated to be looked down on to such an extent. I certainly would be.

Originally Posted by 4th Dimension

They try comparing Rinne to Einhart, when Rinne asks Victoria about the Ein AS IF SHE HAS NOT RESEARCHED HER ALREADY.

I'm sure Rinne researched Einhart as a fighter, but she was asking about her as a person.

They are trying to make me feel sympathetic to Jill too. "Oh no I tried so hard to make Rinne into a ruthless destroyer of people. I'm now so sad I failed her BUhu" I couldn't care less.

I'm actually pleased that they didn't go the obvious route with Jill. She's not a horrible person, but she let her own desires interfere with guiding Rinne properly, and she gets that. Not bad at all.

She even had the audacity to come to the hospital where Vivio and Miura are to "apologise" for their injuries through cake. Ughrhrhrhrhr.

Don't think there's anything really wrong with that.

[novalysis]

Poor Fuka. Rinne stole the title of main protagonist away from the girl.

I get the sense that Rinne is even more of a creator's pet than Fuka. She's the new Miura of Vivid-Strike. At this rate, we could show a screencap of Rinne towering over Fuka in this fight with the fake caption "It's my anime now bitch!"

[Blueknight78]

Originally Posted by 4th Dimension

Fuka is really getting shafted with how little time she is getting. Instead of introducing a credible opponent to her so we could see how and why she is good, the fight is resolved in a prologue. So Fuka's entire tournament sans her potential match vs Einhart is boiled down to one fight in the beginning and no fight presented her with a challenge. And then instead of showing how good Fuka is we are treated to Corona and friends again singing her praises. This is not how you do stories. Show don't tell.

There is some movement with Rinne's character when she realizes that neither victories nor defeats mean anything to her and she feels empty. That is depression. You solve that through getting help not punches to the head.
Apparently what hurt Rinne the most is that this is twice that she lost to a younger competitor. I hope they mean less experienced because that is the only thing that matters, but we were never told Rinne more expirienced. She allways felt like a new threat. But if it is actual age that bothers her that is bullshit Rinne.

They try comparing Rinne to Einhart, when Rinne asks Victoria about the Ein AS IF SHE HAS NOT RESEARCHED HER ALREADY. Oh well, still while the comparision has some merit it does not work completelly since Ein despite being alone was never this uncaring about others. Or it might be just me.


The entire Einhart's plan was stupid. And I'm in full agreement with Nove that it is pointlessly reckless to promise Rinne a championship fight if the wins over Fuka. Bi*** gave her word. They are trying to make me feel sympathetic to Jill too. "Oh no I tried so hard to make Rinne into a ruthless destroyer of people. I'm now so sad I failed her BUhu" I couldn't care less. She even had the audacity to come to the hospital where Vivio and Miura are to "apologise" for their injuries through cake. Ughrhrhrhrhr.

Good news. At least the older competitors were fun in their antics so that is something. In the end the match is set on the Alpine training course/cityblock and they basically gather all the competitors from Vivid, bot the old competitor cast and the new one. Yes that also includes the witch Croz. They even bait us with like 10s of Sig walking through the course. She doesn't do anything but she is a welcome distraction.

Since the fight is outside the tournament we might actually get to see some damned magic finally. They even reminded us that Rinne knows how to throw medium range magic attacks and is good with even them. Which is one of the eraly reasons I disliked her since she felt like too much of a Mary Sue that could do everything and was invunerable.

In the end the fight starts they exchange throwing each others at walls and Fuka FINALLY gets to call her on her stupid shit:
"You look down on and show contempt for others, but you give up easily when things get hard for you. I'm gonna destroy your spoiled attitude!"
DAYYYYYMMM You go girl. Let's hope they don't pull some sort of shit to get you to loose to Rinne. She needs shutting down and not to be rewarded with being allowed to have a shot at the title of the Champion. But than again we have three more episodes so that is likely.

Originally Posted by novalysis

Poor Fuka. Rinne stole the title of main protagonist away from the girl.

I get the sense that Rinne is even more of a creator's pet than Fuka. She's the new Miura of Vivid-Strike. At this rate, we could show a screencap of Rinne towering over Fuka in this fight with the fake caption "It's my anime now bitch!"

i really agrre here about this "rinne" episode, really serious they are trying to make me "like that broken character"???, a person which was ruthless toward others and just because she 'loose 2 times" for a very strong person now i must feel bad for her, feel all her sadness and think which was vivio fault her condition??? which she not "asked for what she get??? which she giving up so easy in martial arts is the right thing???and even for her "stupid jill coache which before the fight was all "my girl is powerfull we gonna take over the world muhahauhauau(acting like a evil character) and now she is a "nice person"???

Serious i was really enjoying this serie but this episode was really, really too forced, really sorry at this point after so good plot this episode come really terrible, while i can understand trying to "redem" a character, here the things are "too forced" like one second that peoples where the worst person in the world then in next second now they are "saints" and i must hook on then and feel bad for then?? really srry specially for jill, she really deserve be fired for what she did to rinne, which instead of try to help her fixe her condition just make things worst which her "win at any cost and only strongs can survive mndset".

Another problem of this serie is the pace, this serie is really, really being rushed like a "lightining", allmost all fuukas fights where offscreen and many pointless "sad moments" just to make me want to forigve some characters or hook, many wasted time in more important things like the fights and "really fix the issues" not just "milk all the drama" or episode.

i agree with fuuka in the end and rinne need to have her "ass kicked" to maybe she loose her broken mind and learn to actually be at last a "good fighters' not just a "whining "ojo-sama" which feel which she is too special to loose and all her life ended, man all rinne drama is being hard to accept which at this point after she had a good family which tried to support her until the end, she still broken like that with the help of the worst type of instructor i see ever.

Really i really disliked many parts of this episode and how he tried to force me accept forgive so easy that 2 girls.

Well since this is "cute girls" serie(not a really stupid one but a really good one) still a cute girls and forgive cute girls must be a "obligatory thing since in the next episode she will magically become a good person and we must forget all the shit they did in the past for the sake of "cutness".

well i really hope fuuka or hein kick hard rinne ass and make her instructor(jill) give up giving instructions to any person because all she will do is damage to peoples which her "way of think".

while somehow i could enjoy this episode i really hated a lot of things here.

[TwoZeroTwo]

Yeah, that was...disappointingly easy. I kind of thought (or was hoping) that maybe Rinne would do something more drastic or Fuuka would show some agency in meeting with Rinne but instead, things were so...diplomatic and subdued. Rinne gets a visitor that just basically gives a pep talk, and an 'official' match is set up, planned, and well-understood by all parties... like, it doesn't feel dramatic enough to me. Vivid Strike was doing a good job giving agency to the characters and feeling dramatic and this didn't continue at the same level. Yeah, Einhart might lose the belt if both Fuuka and she fall to Rinne, but still. It wasn't a very dramatic step in the plot and Fuuka definitely has much less 'drive' in the plot than I was hoping for.

I think Jill needed another scene to herself to go over her feelings and maybe her recovery since last episode. She went from angry enough at herself to draw a bit of blood last episode to basically feeling fine off-screen. And I know at the end of this episode and in the next one, it's technically Rinne's match and Jill's basically just there for representation by this point but it again feels too easy just letting Jill be back in her old role. She might not need to quit teaching completely as someone mentioned above but it would be good to see her realize she is wrong about her training philosophy, change that, and maybe let us see her doing differently in the future - assist in getting Rinne back on her feet or pick up a new trainee. Perhaps I was hoping for Nove to turn Jill around (with words though, not fighting) as sort of a parallel to what the girls want with Rinne. It certainly felt like earlier there would be a bigger rivalry there and aside from the small scene with Nove and Jill at the hospital, nothing was done and they were both cordial with each other.

Either way, the longer Rinne gets to be the way she is, the longer Jill's arc is directly slowed down or even reversed. Maybe when Rinne finally comes around, Jill can do a little more as well. Whatever, it's free anime for you, Jim!

EDIT: Another thing I though of after a minute or two - maybe it's the subs, but sometimes in this episode it felt like too much importance was put on "Rinne is sad because she lost to the same younger fighter twice" and not "Rinne is sad because losing at all directly shatters her unhealthy goal of being stronger than everyone else." Like, I get that A technically implies B but come on! Vivio even gave the whole "you don't enjoy fighting, do you?" speech already and it just deserves to be driven in more that it was. Not saying it's ignored completely, and Fuuka's trash talk is addressing the real issue, but it just felt weird to sugar-coat it sometimes.

The episode was fine, I didn't hate it, but it felt like one big setup for the next episode when big things could have continued happening here.

[Blueknight78]

Originally Posted by TwoZeroTwo

Yeah, that was...disappointingly easy. I kind of thought (or was hoping) that maybe Rinne would do something more drastic or Fuuka would show some agency in meeting with Rinne but instead, things were so...diplomatic and subdued. Rinne gets a visitor that just basically gives a pep talk, and an 'official' match is set up, planned, and well-understood by all parties... like, it doesn't feel dramatic enough to me. Vivid Strike was doing a good job giving agency to the characters and feeling dramatic and this didn't continue at the same level. Yeah, Einhart might lose the belt if both Fuuka and she fall to Rinne, but still. It wasn't a very dramatic step in the plot and Fuuka definitely has much less 'drive' in the plot than I was hoping for.

I think Jill needed another scene to herself to go over her feelings and maybe her recovery since last episode. She went from angry enough at herself to draw a bit of blood last episode to basically feeling fine off-screen. And I know at the end of this episode and in the next one, it's technically Rinne's match and Jill's basically just there for representation by this point but it again feels too easy just letting Jill be back in her old role. She might not need to quit teaching completely as someone mentioned above but it would be good to see her realize she is wrong about her training philosophy, change that, and maybe let us see her doing differently in the future - assist in getting Rinne back on her feet or pick up a new trainee. Perhaps I was hoping for Nove to turn Jill around (with words though, not fighting) as sort of a parallel to what the girls want with Rinne. It certainly felt like earlier there would be a bigger rivalry there and aside from the small scene with Nove and Jill at the hospital, nothing was done and they were both cordial with each other.

Either way, the longer Rinne gets to be the way she is, the longer Jill's arc is directly slowed down or even reversed. Maybe when Rinne finally comes around, Jill can do a little more as well. Whatever, it's free anime for you, Jim!

EDIT: Another thing I though of after a minute or two - maybe it's the subs, but sometimes in this episode it felt like too much importance was put on "Rinne is sad because she lost to the same younger fighter twice" and not "Rinne is sad because losing at all directly shatters her unhealthy goal of being stronger than everyone else." Like, I get that A technically implies B but come on! Vivio even gave the whole "you don't enjoy fighting, do you?" speech already and it just deserves to be driven in more that it was. Not saying it's ignored completely, and Fuuka's trash talk is addressing the real issue, but it just felt weird to sugar-coat it sometimes.

The episode was fine, I didn't hate it, but it felt like one big setup for the next episode when big things could have continued happening here.

i feel even for a "setup" episode a lot of things where miss here, the pace of the episodes was fine before the battle, jill was a sort of "bitch", rinne a sort of crazy girl then the battle come and everything goes in the "speed of light" and them suddenly jill goes from a "scared person to loose her job, to a person which want to show which she is not "that evil" as she acted before, then rinne goes from a "crazy" to stupid then to a "emo" all in the speed of light, then heinward make her crazy stupid bet which make rinne instant recover making her looks really like a "spoiled kid" which someone come and say "no you can't do that" then she start to whining crybaby and complain until make the peoples give and say "ok you can do it now" then she go all happy again, she is sure a mess of person and the fact which she is so messed make jill even worse, cuz one of her "jobs" as rinne instructor is take care of her not jus physical but psichologic(mental too) and the fact which she not adressed rinne issues or used then to "make her strong" just show how bad she is as a instructor, cuz could be very obvious which rinne was about to crack at any time since her condintion was just getting worse and jill just for the sake of her "pride" don't take any action and allowed all that mess.

i really feel like we get too rushed things in the 3 or 2 last episodes which many offscreen fights and poor development of characters for the sake to get fast the final battle in time, i really feel like we get a lot of rush here which for me is bad since the anime was being fine in pace before and now just is getting desperated rushed leading to a lot of lack of development.

[FlareKnight]

Yeah, I'm kind of hoping it's just a weird assumption on everyone's part that Rinne is bothered by losing to someone younger. I don't feel like that's supposed to be part of the problem. And it's fine if it's a wrong presumption since most of them probably wouldn't know that losing via KO was more triggering of a trauma and wasn't really about Vivio's birth certificate...

I do think a downside was the lack of Fuka...doing anything in this situation outside of fighting. Einhart asks her how she feels and if she still wants to fight. Then Einhart goes ahead and sets up this match without really consulting anyone. Kind of feels like the MC should be a bit more active. Wouldn't a "let me talk to her" be in order? Even if Fuka couldn't talk Rinne into a fight....it'd make sense for her to try.

Just a downside I suppose of the path the story has gone down. Rinne is really well developed and understood. Certainly can't like where she's ended up as a person, but can at least understand how she's gotten here. Fuka....I don't know where she is as a character right now. Her development basically went from episode 1-3 and now is getting picked up again at the tail end of episode 9. Not that there isn't still time though. 3 more episodes to flesh Fuka out a bit. Maybe she can retake main character status.

Though feels like any time Vivio is on screen she's basically ready to take that main character status for herself .

[Nvis]

I still don't see Rinne winning this because they said the rules make it advantageous for Rinne.

And I'll be mad if Einhart loses her title.

And why is there an abandoned city out of nowhere?

[Blueknight78]

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

I do think a downside was the lack of Fuka...doing anything in this situation outside of fighting. Einhart asks her how she feels and if she still wants to fight. Then Einhart goes ahead and sets up this match without really consulting anyone. Kind of feels like the MC should be a bit more active. Wouldn't a "let me talk to her" be in order? Even if Fuka couldn't talk Rinne into a fight....it'd make sense for her to try.
Fuka....I don't know where she is as a character right now. Her development basically went from episode 1-3 and now is getting picked up again at the tail end of episode 9. Not that there isn't still time though. 3 more episodes to flesh Fuka out a bit. Maybe she can retake main character status.

Though feels like any time Vivio is on screen she's basically ready to take that main character status for herself .

yeah the fact which the supposed to be "MC" in this case fuka is the character which the worst development and maybe "screen" time is another problem on this serie, they focused so much in focus on rinne and the "others girls from the previous series season which make fuka don't really look like a Mc and more like a secondary character and almost anyone is "more important" than her, this is really weird for a main character.

[Rising Dragon]

Originally Posted by Nvis

And why is there an abandoned city out of nowhere?

Uh, Cranagan has always had large swathes of ruined city around it, deliberately left there as a grim reminder of the relatively recent war the dimensions had been embroiled in. We saw that much in StrikerS.

[4th Dimension]

Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

Uh, Cranagan has always had large swathes of ruined city around it, deliberately left there as a grim reminder of the relatively recent war the dimensions had been embroiled in. We saw that much in StrikerS.

Nah. They explicitly state this is on the Alpine estate. That would make the location that planet where the Alpines were exiled. On the other hand id I want to further nitpick a) that site took a direct impact from two SLBs b) time is too short for all of them to get there and also train since last time they went there they had to take a dimensional shuttle.

DEEEP BREATH

Okaaaaayyyy now that I have gotten that previous post out, that was more about me venting my frustrations and wanting to twist the knife in let's talk objectively.

Yes, the main issue so far has been that it has been ALL about Rinne with Fuka and anyone else relegated to background characters. And while I do agree with FlareKnight that I do understand how Rinne got where she is, hell I think she is interesting because of that, the show has not managed for me to feel any sympathy for her for pursuing her stupid martial arts carrier. What the fuck is wrong with leaving fighting if it doesn't make you happy? I think this would have been more interesting for me if the show did not pretend and keep hinting to us how all of Rinne's mountain of issues can be solved through fighting. The girl needs therapy from a authority figure who does not want to use her to prove a point.

So the show has succeded in creating an interesting character, even though her interesting sides boil to showing how much she is a subversion of a lot of Nanoha tropes.

With like 60% of last 9 episodes delegated to Rinne, an unsympathetic (subjective unsympathetic) character, and the rest of the cast not really being there the show does not inspie good feelings in me.

From technical standpoint in this episode there are moments that at times tug on my hearth as they are supposed to, like her determined look when she states she will not retire after fighting Fuka she will think about it after winning twice, but since they concern Rinne this is immediately counteracted by my brain "No you don't get to make inspiring speeches you shithead". The same happens during the Jill scenes. Clearly they are supposed to tug on our hearthstrings by showing how she regrets her actions, but she never says she was wrong in her approach, so any potential nubbin sympathy is gone since she is one of the main reasons they are in that mess in the first place.

And yeah the setup for the fight is rushed.
Einhart don't you and Fuka have like a match in copuple of days? Is this really the time to let a ragemonster beat you and her to bloody pulp. Now that I think about it you are not helping Fuka any by potentially exposing her to injuries during her breakout cup... Stop it 4thD. stop with the nitpicking! Gosh!
It felt rushed and gathering of much more interesting characters from Vivid kind of feels now like an excuse to gather sympathy from us because look guys those characters that you liked are here. Also now we can put them in the intro even though they had like 0% impact on the story apart from Victoria and Ix. And even them they were there more to be Deus Ex machina to resolve the plot.

Hell I was more excited to potentially see them all cut loose against each other in a team competition, a la that part in Vivid, than the Rinne/Fuka match.
I also see they are still not using any protection even though the terrain is equipped with Crash Override.
STOP NITPICKING!

______________

In conclusion, I can not say I have enjoyed things so far. The show did make some interesting choices, but for as many interesting there were dumb and pointlessly edgy ones. That being said a lot of my emotions might have been caused by weekly wait betwen episodes. Maybe if I binge watched this I would not have a week to chew on all the things I did not like and simmer. For example Miura might have gotten hurt and than I would not spend a week feeling rage toward Rinne for her lack of restraint and their lack of using protective systems like in Vivid, but would learn she is "fine" a minute later. My opinion when contrasted with the opinions of people who seem to like this remind me of what I saw when I skimmed through those threads covering the StrikerS. I breezed through the show practically one sitting and liked it a lot. God knows it had loads of problems, but it was still a fun mess for me. But I had the luxury of not debating every single issue (and those were a legion) the show had, thinking of how this could be fixed and then inevitably getting disappointed which would build up my rage further.

I do still think that no matter the speed of my watching would have been able to cover for Rinne and Jill's bad behavior and the fact that they haven't done anything to realize they need to reform, yet alone starting on the path to redeeming themselves. Because the same thing happened in StrikerS concerning "redeemed" Numbers who were only rescued from my wrath through reason and logic rather than emotions.

[Aetherdraw]

The only thing that would make me excited at this point would be the fight between master and student, because as good as Rinne is, Fuka fighting Einhart to show us just how much she's learned in her 4 months of tutelage under her would be great.

[Nachtwandler]

Originally Posted by 4th Dimension

Nah. They explicitly state this is on the Alpine estate. That would make the location that planet where the Alpines were exiled.

The same location was used for the team fight in the begining of the Nanoha Vivid manga and anime.

[tuckersister]

Sieg finally appeared. I just realized that Victoria and Rinne have nearly the same hairstyle (Nearly).

[Stark700]

I wish they covered a more detailed fight for Fuuka in this tournament after Rinne defeat.

My bet is on a draw or something between Rinne and Fuuka.

[Gx Hero]

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

Just a downside I suppose of the path the story has gone down. Rinne is really well developed and understood. Certainly can't like where she's ended up as a person, but can at least understand how she's gotten here. Fuka....I don't know where she is as a character right now. Her development basically went from episode 1-3 and now is getting picked up again at the tail end of episode 9. Not that there isn't still time though. 3 more episodes to flesh Fuka out a bit. Maybe she can retake main character status.

Though feels like any time Vivio is on screen she's basically ready to take that main character status for herself .

I have been saying that for a while. Fuka is a good main character, but has not really gotten to shine or be developed as much as she should have. To me this should have been vivio as the main character with Rinne as the antagonist. I guess to be blunt the lack of development in fuuka is the downside of vivid strike.

Now we can only hope they don't short us on the fight. no one is going to care about einheart vs rinne if fuuka vs Rinne isn't good. To be blunt the whole episode and part of the next should be dedicated to the fight.

[FlameSparkZ]

Originally Posted by Gx Hero

I have been saying that for a while. Fuka is a good main character, but has not really gotten to shine or be developed as much as she should have. To me this should have been vivio as the main character with Rinne as the antagonist. I guess to be blunt the lack of development in fuuka is the downside of vivid strike.

I have to agree. Although it was a good episode, the lack of development for Fuuka (and showing her fight her opponent) somewhat ruined it.

I don't know what's planned for the next 3 episodes, but it seems to me that they're rushing the plot because they're running out of time.

Originally Posted by Gx Hero

Now we can only hope they don't short us on the fight. no one is going to care about einheart vs rinne if fuuka vs Rinne isn't good. To be blunt the whole episode and part of the next should be dedicated to the fight.

Hope so too. The show has been lacking when it comes to showing Fuuka fight, so far we've only seen a bit of sparring and one official match (which ended in a few seconds)...but that's not nearly enough to show how much she improved.

So, I'm hoping her fight with Rinne will at least be one episode long...chances are half of the episode will be them talking, and the other half fighting.