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Old 2016-12-08, 21:01   Link #321
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It's a grown man directly stabbing a child.
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Old 2016-12-08, 23:31   Link #322
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It's a grown man directly stabbing a child.
The result is still the same thing with the original being less graphic then then the censored one. Yet it does kinda messed up the symbolism in regards to what Artorius does with his sword and what happens in event later on in the game from what I seen. Personally, in my opinion it lessens the value of this scene and the later scene even if the conclusion ends up being the same.
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Old 2016-12-08, 23:36   Link #323
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Honestly the problem is the censored scene just looks really silly. It would have probably been better if they just didn't show the sword going through at all and just implied what was happening. Not like that hasn't been done before in other games.
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Old 2016-12-08, 23:55   Link #324
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Honestly the problem is the censored scene just looks really silly. It would have probably been better if they just didn't show the sword going through at all and just implied what was happening. Not like that hasn't been done before in other games.
They could had just blacken the scene when he goes about thrusting his sword into him if they felt they couldn't show the scene that badly and just show the aftermath of Artorious throwing him off his sword keeping the original meaning intact. They just legit changed up the whole scene for no reason.
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Old 2016-12-09, 00:13   Link #325
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I have a rule, if they don't censor it in Japan, then don't try to sell it to me censored. Either way, im just not going to buy it(NA). The scene does lose its impact to me just looking at the two. Right or wrong it does to me and thats enough for me to worry about what else will be changed. So im not even going to bother and just suck it up and import the game eventually.
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Old 2016-12-09, 02:43   Link #326
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Just because of one scene? That's rad. At least wait for others to check if more changes have been made before making that decision.
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Old 2016-12-09, 04:15   Link #327
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If you want protect censoring games go to tumblr or something. I will never support any censored product.
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Old 2016-12-09, 04:37   Link #328
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Was that for me? I also find censoring in games as silly and futile as most of you.
Actually, censoring in ANYTHING is silly and futile, especially in this age, where you can find anything on the net, as long as you know how to search.

Anyway, I just don't let such petty stuff affect my wanting to check it's story, characters and so on.
I know it's crappy, but there's always the net to check out what was censored, that's all.
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Old 2016-12-09, 05:36   Link #329
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It's scene from the trailer so surly there will be more censorship and Censored Gaming will cover all changed scenes after game release but then what? You will watch censored changes and still support buy game supporting censorship?

I know I went to far with that tumblr comment but I'm pissed off because just another game is censored and some people still are defending such censorship or still want support such games.
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Old 2016-12-09, 05:38   Link #330
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And can we do anything about it? No matter how much we complain, those idiots out there have stupid regulations to account for and SJWs to look out for. In sum, stupid people doing stupid things. If we were to not buy any game we liked but had been censored, then we'd have almost no decent game to get our hands on
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Old 2016-12-09, 05:47   Link #331
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Since you mentioned about SJWs, on NeoGaf they cry to censor Velvet outfit so we know what might be next on list to change in West release.


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Heeeh... MAJOR SPOILER WARNING - now this censorship is even more dumb.

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Old 2016-12-09, 12:11   Link #332
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The result is still the same thing with the original being less graphic then then the censored one. Yet it does kinda messed up the symbolism in regards to what Artorius does with his sword and what happens in event later on in the game from what I seen. Personally, in my opinion it lessens the value of this scene and the later scene even if the conclusion ends up being the same.
No it's not. Directly stabbing a child is more realistic than magic. That's like saying being electrocuted by a Pikachu is more graphic than being electrocuted by a taser. They're not remotely the same thing.

Yes, it does ruin the parallel with a scene near the end of the game where Velvet exacts her revenge on Artorius. But it's fairly obvious why they did it. Not everyone is an adult.
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Old 2016-12-09, 13:33   Link #333
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You may have read in an interview that we had promised not to censor the game in the West. The statement applied only to the Velvet’s outfit at the time, and we did our best to keep the game as close to the Japanese version as possible.

This is the only scene which has been altered from the Japanese version of the game. Everything else is exactly the same as the Japanese version including costume designs which you will be able to see for yourself once we release the demo on January 10th.
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Old 2016-12-09, 13:35   Link #334
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We have response about censorship. In short: I-I-It's due the ratings~~~

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You may have read in an interview that we had promised not to censor the game in the West. The statement applied only to the Velvet’s outfit at the time, and we did our best to keep the game as close to the Japanese version as possible.


And that's all. No buy from me.
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Old 2016-12-09, 14:14   Link #335
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We have response about censorship. In short: I-I-It's due the ratings~~~

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And that's all. No buy from me.
What a tragedy! No buy from you
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Old 2016-12-09, 14:26   Link #336
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And that's all. No buy from me.
We heard you the first time. That statement alone denounced two of your three complaints about the censorship (that Velvet was next, and that if there was one instance there was guaranteed to be more, leaving only the fact that there was censorship at all remaining). So can we stop hearing about it now?
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Old 2016-12-09, 14:46   Link #337
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No it's not. Directly stabbing a child is more realistic than magic. That's like saying being electrocuted by a Pikachu is more graphic than being electrocuted by a taser. They're not remotely the same thing.

Yes, it does ruin the parallel with a scene near the end of the game where Velvet exacts her revenge on Artorius. But it's fairly obvious why they did it. Not everyone is an adult.
Does it really make that much of a difference if the way it's handled is now that it's more indirect. The intent is still the same. This is why we have the ESRB rating. If the content is too mature for kids, then kids shouldn't be playing it in the first place. If a scene is meant to be horrific, and even with the censor is still horrific, it's pointless trying to water it down to something slightly less.
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Old 2016-12-09, 17:58   Link #338
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I think people are making too much of a buzz because of a simple change in a scene.
Yes, it may have repercussions later in the game's story, but man, it shouldn't stop you from enjoying all the rest.
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Old 2016-12-11, 01:15   Link #339
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Still gonna get it day 1(already purchased on Steam). Sorry, I'm too much of a Tales fan to care about 8 secs worth of footage. I haven't watched it, but even if I will think it would look silly or whatever, I'm sure that it will be a forgotten memory by the time I'm busting out of the first area of the game, and entrusting myself into its battle system.
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Old 2016-12-11, 01:55   Link #340
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It's very good for them that they respond quite quickly (there is already an thread on Steam), and truth to be told, it's not really their fault, it's the rating system in the West that such (and sometimes weird) restrictions come into place
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