The Genderbending of Haruhi Suzumiya [Spoilers Aplenty]

[swtrooper42]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Spoiler for September the Fourth, Day 3, Universe 1: Cat and Mouse:

Cat and Mouse

Nagato is taking me up the stairs.


Kyonko: Why not just go outside the school!? And I can walk for myself!

Yuuki: The possibility exists that physical displacement may occur during dimensional transfer. As such, it would be unwise to put you in further danger by exiting a relatively safe environment such as the school.

Kyonko: We’re in danger right now!

Yuuki: In addition, the short-range scan appears to be malfunctioning. Correction, it has restarted.


We reach the top of the stairs right as Nagato says this… and he steps back… and jumps right back down the stairs.


Kyonko: Waaaaaaah!


As before, Nagato lands perfectly. The students around us are scattering in a panic, unsurprisingly.


Kyonko: Nagato, what—

Yuuki: Enemies ahead. Retreating to a safer location.


---

Nagato and I are looking down from the top of the stairs.


Kyon: …Shouldn’t we follow them?

Yuki: No need. The intruders can be cut off at the next location.


Nagato runs off down the corridor, me directly behind her.


Kyon: So what’s the ‘next location’?


---


Kyonko: The library!?


Nagato’s taken me to the library to hide. Great.


Yuuki: …Silence is requested when inside a library.


…Did he just tell me to shut up!?


Weaving through the bookshelves, Nagato eventually deposits me somewhere in the middle of the library.


Kyonko: Now what?

Yuuki: Performing short-range scan…


You have got to be kidding me. What does he run on? Windows ’95?


Yuuki: …Scan completed. Enemies at both front and back entrances.

Kyonko: Eh? Then we’re trapped?

Yuuki: …

Kyonko: Wait, question. Why are they even enemies? Why can’t we just talk this out peacefully.

Yuuki: …We cannot be allowed to come into contact with them no matter what.


With those words, Nagato bent down to my level…


---


Nagato’s plan is for us to cut them off here. If we can block both their ways out, they’ll have to come through at least one of us.

I can’t say I’m exactly confident in my ability to guard an entrance, though…

A sudden crashing noise echoed through the library… as one of the bookshelves suddenly fell over.

---

Nagato had grabbed me all of a sudden, jumped up, kicked off of one of the shelves, which went flying backwards, and landed on the one opposite.

I swear, my heart stopped about twice.


Kyonko: N-Nagato, what…


Without saying a word, Nagato jumps to the next shelf, his momentum knocking the one we were just standing on flying as well. Immediately, we jumped again, picking up speed. And again, and again… heading towards the big double windows set in one wall. Oh no…

This display of acrobatics has created a huge cacophony of noise, among them screams. Please don’t tell me you killed anyone, Nagato.

And with one final jump, we’re about to crash into the windows… I hear Nagato mutter something under his breath… and, once again, we pass through the window like it’s a sheet of water.

---

As I stare at the carnage in the library, I’m lost for words. At least no one appears hurt.


Kyon: Should we follow them…?


I ask Nagato, who has appeared beside me.


Yuki: Impossible.


Of course. No one normal could think of doing something like that, and it’d create way too much of a scene anyway. Just like this.


Yuki: All the bookshelves have been knocked down.


…Nevermind.


Kyon: Where are they headed now?


Nagato closes her eyes for a brief second, then answers.


Yuki: The…

---

Yuuki: …cafeteria.

Kyonko: Why there?

Yuuki: Large amount of students.


So it’d be easier to hide there. Makes sense.

We enter the cafeteria, Nagato dodging through students like always.

Near the back, however…


Yuuki: Enemies detected dead ahead.

Kyonko: What? Where?


Nagato wheels around… and knocks over some girl carrying an empty tray.


Girl: Hey! Watch where you’re going!

Kyonko: Sorry!


I apologize to her from Nagato’s arms.

Wait… that’s one of the girls from the pictures…!

I don’t get a chance to say anything else, since Nagato is now carrying me towards the kitchen, but I think I heard her mutter “weirdo”.

If you are who I think you are, you’re one to talk…!

---

I was about to climb through the tiny cafeteria window, but Nagato stopped me suddenly.


Kyon: What’s up?

Yuki: Intruders are no longer in that location. They are currently heading towards the back exit, through the kitchen.

Kyon: So if we hurry we can cut them off for real! Let’s go!

---

Kyonko: Hey, Nagato.


I asked as we dodged a cook.


---

Kyon: Have you ever considered that—

---

Kyonko: --the enemy might have a way to track us?


We had exited the kitchen through the back door, and…

Yuuki: Yes.


With that, he leapt… hit the exterior wall… and began running alongside of it, me still cradled in his arms.

…

Aaaaaaaaaaah!


Kyonko: Nagato what the hell what the hell are you doing?

Yuuki: Hiding is now without merit. Henceforth, running will take priority until the dimensional transfer is initiated.

Kyonko: What!?

Yuuki: Hold on tight.


We whipped around a corner at a blinding speed, and…


---

Kyon: Where… where did they go?

Yuki: Up.


I look up at the school building… and on one corner of the wall, I see a sudden flash of blue.

No way.


---

Just as Nagato was about to reach the edge of the wall, up onto the roof, he suddenly stiffened mid-run… and, with that, we fell off the wall.

…

Aaaaaaaaaaah!

Despite my utter terror, however, Nagato landed on his feet once again. Are you a cat or something?


Yuuki: Nyaa.

Kyonko: What, what’s wrong?


I asked, trying to catch my breath.


Yuuki: Access to that particular application is being denied. Executing backup plan.


…And off we go at full tilt again…


---


Kyon: How do we catch that!?

Yuki: Judging by the intruders’ current trajectory, they are heading for the gymnasium.


Heh… perfect.

Our gymnasium, by the way, has only a couple entrances and, most notably, no windows. We’ve got them now.

---

Kyonko: The gym? But if they pin us again, there’s no way out, right?


The basketball team had been practicing in here when we just barged in. They were, of course, staring at us.

Nagato paid them no attention and charged straight for the storage room. Isn’t that even more of a dead end!?

Once inside, Nagato finally put me down, and closed the door behind us.

Oi oi. What does this look like to the basketball players out there?

The storage room, by the way, is very tall in comparison to its width. Stacked high on many shelves are various sports utilities; bats, balls, the works.


Kyonko: I thought you said that hiding was for losers hiding is useless.

Yuuki: Not hiding.

Kyonko: Huh?


---

I look around the minute I enter the gym, as does Nagato across from me. No one can be seen except for a bunch of confused-looking basketball players.


Kyon: Hey, you guys, where did they go?


One of them points at the storage room.

Now if that isn’t a dead end. We’ve got them now!

I run towards the storage room, and wrench the doors open. As I do so, I hear a crashing noise, and…

I’m suddenly caught up in a flood of random sports equipment.


---

Nagato had, once again, grabbed me, and done his kick-off-shelves-to-get-higher-trick.

…Which, of course, destabilized them, sending mountains of sports equipment careening to the ground below.

I heard the door open and someone going “Aha!” but that quickly turned into the muffled, yet distinct sound of male screaming.

At the top of the storage room itself, Nagato spun around in midair and, I kid you not, roundhouse kicked through the wall.

We managed to land safely on the ground, predictably. Behind us, the chunks of concrete that formed the wall Nagato had smashed through floated in midair… and as Nagato muttered very quickly under his breath, the wall reformed, without a crack to show what had just been done to it.

My poor heart.

And with, that without so much as a word from Nagato, we’re off again…


---

Ye gods the pain.


Yuki: The intruders are now heading towards the old school building.


…Thank you, Nagato, but how did they even get out of that storage room? And could you help me out of here, please?

---


Nagato and I are now running up the stairs in the Old Shack, coincidentally near where Haruki first convinced me to join the SOS Brigade.


Kyonko: So why can’t we just go up the walls again if we’re heading for the roof?

Yuuki: Connection to the Data Overmind is being blocked in some areas. Alternately…

Kyonko: Alternately what?

Yuuki: What I am connected to may not be the Data Overmind at all.

Kyonko: …

---

Kyon: They’re heading for the roof?


Nagato nods, as we start to head up the stairs.

I’d say “We have them now” or something like that again, but very recent events have convinced me that might never be the case.

---

Nagato barges through the door to the roof, interrupting a tall second-year delinquent who had just wanted a quiet place to smoke.

Kyonko: Sorry! We’ll be out of your way in a minute!


Where are we going from here, anyway…? Straight of the roof, of course, given our current momentum. I guess that was rhetorical, huh Nagato?

Right before we jump off, I take a look back at the delinquent… who has just dropped his cigarette in shock.

I’d do the same thing in his position, especially since our trajectory is going to bring us straight into the middle of the pool oh god why Nagato why?

---

Yuki: They have moved again.


We were halfway up the stairs when she said this.


Kyon: From the roof!? Where the hell are they now?


Nagato does her focusing thing again, and…


Yuki: Their current position is…


---

I thought we were going to crash land into the pool, but Nagato muttered something else… and all the water turned into ice.

That’s even worse!

But instead of smashing into the ice, Nagato instead hit the surface… and slid all the way across the pool, landing on solid ground.


Kyonko: Haa… haa… why…


Behind us, the frozen pool returned to its normal, liquid state.

Nagato looked as though he was going to simply take off again, but I stopped him.


Kyonko: Nagato… wait, please.

Yuuki: …?

Kyonko: Please, let’s leave the school.

Yuuki: Physical displacement—

Kyonko: I don’t care!


I don’t know how to put this but… I’m in more danger when I’m with you then I would be if we rippled back into the middle of traffic.


Yuuki: Understood. Heading for the main entrance.


---

Kyon: ---the school gate!?


We’re now heading back down the stairs.

These ‘intruders’ of Nagato’s are clearly trying to escape.


Kyon: Now or never, huh…


Let’s get them.

Wait, why am I so excited about this in the first place!?

---

There are a couple students hanging around by the gates who gave us weird looks, but otherwise, we had no trouble getting out of the school.


Kyonko: So are there still enemies around?

Yuuki: Unknown. The short-range scan has broken down almost completely.

Kyonko: …Great.


Still, I think you can put me down now.

…On second thoughts, we’ll probably have to go back up the hill eventually, and if I don’t say anything, I can probably have him carry me up too.

…Nagato-san, can I hire you as a chauffeur?

Well, whatever. It’s fine just like


RIPPLE

Oh no it huuuuuuurtssss no no no but this is a good thing right but still no it hurts it tickles please oh god


Kyonko: Gaaahcck… Nagato…. Don’t… let me go…


RIPPLE RIPPLE RIPPLE RIPPLE RIPPLE RIPPLE

It hurts feels good hurts feels good what is this rush this euphoria this disgust it’s funny the ripples it’s so funny gotta laugh but can’t laugh it hurts to laugh it’s okay to laugh why why why the pain good lord the pain my eyes behind my eyes like drills the pain it’s funny why shouldn’t I laugh


Kyonko: WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


Everything is laughter it’s sound it’s fury it’s pain I love it I hate it I hate you all I love you all I want you all nothing is enough everything is everything I’m jealous sad angry happy turned on all at once it’s an eternity of madness I love it

Thepainthepainthepainthepainthepainthepainthepaint hepainthepainthepainthepainthepainthepainthepainth epainthepainthepainthepainthepainthepainthepainthe painthepainthepain

TO THE PAIN! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Life’s a laugh my dear that’s the way the cookie crumbles that’s the way the world ends it’s lunchtime lunchtime it’s all but an illusion of sound and fury the cookie is crumbling this is madness this is Nishinomiya I’m mad as a hatter or two hatters that are twice as mad

RIPPLE!

I’m falling into madness I can hear my own laughter ringing everywhere don’t let me go Nagato don’t let me go don’t let me fall this far I can’t take it it’s funny I love it I hate it madness madness madness madness it all ends right here right now.

Congratulations.

Long live the queen.

*ZZZZZZT*

That was insane!
Points for "roundhouse kicking through the wall".
Incredibly stylish for turning the water to ice and sliding across it.
Nagato vs Nagato is intense. Now if only we could see them fight each other symmetrically.

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by wittyusername

I played it a while ago. How is that interesting?

It's one of the darkest and yet most beautiful things I've ever played, is all.

Most people are turned off by the guro, so I'm just surprised to see another person I know playing it.

But then again you watched EoE at what, 9?

So I shouldn't be too surprised...

Originally Posted by swtrooper42

Now if only we could see them fight each other symmetrically.

>_>

[vivify93]

About the Data Thought Sentient Integration Overmind Entity of 1000 Uses...

If we really wanna be literal, we could just call it the Jouhou Tougou Shinentai, can't we? Meh, I like Data Overmind better myself, and it appears so does everyone else.

...Too bad I don't have any rule over this. I'm not creating or discussing an MxM shipping of the Datathing and it's not useless information, so I'm afraid I'm reduced to...

nyoro~n

Now, back to Higurashi.

[Roger Rambo]

Aw damn. Kyonko's in some deep shit there. She's not gonna stay in good shape for long if this keeps up.

And Yuuki is rather...destructive in his attempt to escape with Kyonko.

[Heatth]

Originally Posted by wittyusername

Forgot about how you wouldn't have been used to the official English translation's terms.

It's a shame that there hasn't been an official translation in any other language. I kind of doubt there ever will be, though. Baka-Tsuki also doesn't seem to have too much translated in Portuguese, along with all the other languages there...

At last I know the group translating it is stil active. Just very slow. Unfortunately Haruhi is not as famous here, even on internet is hard to find a forum talking about it, so it is not likely to have it translated. Maybe the manga, but only when it finish in Japan.

Originally Posted by vivify93

About the Data Thought Sentient Integration Overmind Entity of 1000 Uses...

If we really wanna be literal, we could just call it the Jouhou Tougou Shinentai, can't we? Meh, I like Data Overmind better myself, and it appears so does everyone else.

...Too bad I don't have any rule over this. I'm not creating or discussing an MxM shipping of the Datathing and it's not useless information, so I'm afraid I'm reduced to...

nyoro~n

Liteal translation is not don't translating it. 'Data Thought Sentient Integration' may be a literal translation, 'Jouhou Tougou Shinentai' is not. Due to it nature, a literal translation would work well. Anyway, as I said, no point discussing it here (unless Kaisos is open to a change, which I do not believe)

[swtrooper42]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

It's one of the darkest and yet most beautiful things I've ever played, is all.

I've heard of it, but now I definitely have to check it out and add it to my pile of games to play.

[wittyusername]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

It's one of the darkest and yet most beautiful things I've ever played, is all.

Most people are turned off by the guro, so I'm just surprised to see another person I know playing it.

But then again you watched EoE at what, 9?

So I shouldn't be too surprised...

The guro stuff didn't really bother me. I don't know if that's because I was paying more attention to the story, or if it's a side effect of seeing everyone getting hugged and turned into Tang by a giant naked Rei. Most likely the first option, but if GNR can make me avoid Tang for the rest of my life, what can't she do?

Originally Posted by swtrooper42

I've heard of it, but now I definitely have to check it out and add it to my pile of games to play.

Yes. Yes, you do.

Bleh, I realized that there was nothing on-topic here. Then I thought of what the topic was. Genderbending.

...Picturing Saya as an alien shota isn't bad, but oh god I reaaally don't want to think of what would be done to man!Yoh.

[Aebliss]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

22 now. =P

Spoiler for September the Fourth, Day 3, Universe 1: Clubroom(?)- The Wrong Side of the Fence:

The Wrong Side of the Fence


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Wait why am I laughing?


The next thing I know I’m on the floor, throwing up my lunch.

Noooo! My precious omelette… gone… all gone…

I also sense someone looming over me.


Yuuki: Status?

Kyonko: I’m –blaaargh- fine, Nagato. Fine… where are we…?

Yuuki: According to long-range scanning, the SOS Brigade Clubroom, in the relatively older sector of North High School, in the northern part of Nishinomiya, Hyogo Prefecture, Japan—

Kyonko: Okay, thank you.


I unsteadily get to my feet.

If Nagato says it, it’s probably true… which means that this world must be so physically like our own that it’s pretty much indistinguishable. Unless he means that we didn’t ripple over at all, and I’m just crazy.


Kyonko: So, um, are we in another universe or…?


He nods. Okay, good. Wait, that’s not good.

Still, at least I know I’m not crazy.

I’ve begun to realize that the intensity of the ripples have something to do with how long I stay in this other world, so I might be here for a while.

It’d be useful to figure out something other than where I am, so…


Kyonko: …Nagato, could you possibly tell me what this world is like, other than geographically?

Yuuki: Understood. Performing short-range scan. …Startup is taking longer than normal. Error is as yet unidentified. Please wait a few minutes.

Kyonko: Er, okay, sure.


He’s only verbose at times like this, huh.

I look around the clubroom. The only obvious difference I can see is that the computer is off. Other than that, the room seems nearly identical to our clubroom. There’s even a maid outfit and a frog costume hanging up… and is that a nurse outfit?

I don’t see any boy’s clothes on this rack at all, actually.

…Poor alternate Asahina-sempai.


Yuuki: ...Beginning short-range scan... Scanning.


I really can’t see anything in this room that would give me any clue as to the identities of the people who spend their afternoons here. Unless… the billboard!

Haruki had posted up the pictures he took during our summer trip proudly. If I’m right…

And yes, there are pictures there… of people I’ve never seen before.

A girl with shortish dark hair, another, shorter girl (being held by the first in most of the pictures) with long brown hair, a deadpan-looking girl with lighter hair…

Appearing less often, a cute guy with short dark brown hair, and a very pretty guy with longer hair and creepily unblemished skin…

Who the hell are these people?!

…

…Wait.

A girl with dark hair and an impish smile, clutching a girl with brown hair who looks terrified, along with a girl with no expression…

A guy with a constant smile plastered all over his face, and a guy who looks bored out of his mind…

Those bangs look familiar. They’re the bangs I look at in the mirror every morning.

Oh no way. Who the hell comes up with crap like this?


I know the answer to that already.


Kyonko: Hey, Nagato, come look at this, it’s—Nagato!?


Nagato had suddenly gone incredibly stiff and… even though his facial expression hasn’t changed one bit, I can tell that he’s shocked.

[I’d love a CG of Yuuki doing the Newtype Flash thing here, but it’s not essential.]


Yuuki: Escape.

Kyonko: Huh? What?


Nagato walks over to where I’m standing…


Yuuki: Enemies detected through short-range scan. No time to waste. Escape is essential.


…And picks me up off the ground, cradling me in his arms.


Kyonko: H-hey! Wha-wha put me down!

Yuuki: Calculating best way to minimize damage…

Kyonko: Damage? What damage!?


And, still holding on to my rapidly blushing body, Nagato runs forward…. And jumps straight for the window.

…You have got to be joking.

The glass doesn’t shatter. Instead, we pass through it as though it’s simply a thin sheet of water.

But still. We’re several stories up.

As I look down, I can almost feel the ground rushing up to meet my face.


DEAD END

…Just kidding.

*ZZZZZZZZT*

To clarify, "long-range scanning" simply involves Nagato linking to a satellite and scanning an area that way. "Short-range scanning", conversely, involves him using his own abilities to directly scan through a smaller area. As such, it's more difficult in the first place, and he's currently having trouble.

Wheehee! Action hero Nagato Yuuki!

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by Roger Rambo

Aw damn. Kyonko's in some deep shit there. She's not gonna stay in good shape for long if this keeps up.

And Yuuki is rather...destructive in his attempt to escape with Kyonko.

Most of the more blatant destruction he repairs. Well, except for the poor library.

Maybe I should have Jintor add some line about Yuki 'glaring' in 'rage' at the damaged books.

Originally Posted by swtrooper42

I've heard of it, but now I definitely have to check it out and add it to my pile of games to play.

Um.

I would not do it unless you can handle gore everywhere. And I mean everywhere. Like OH GOD MY BEDSHEETS ARE MADE OF FLESH everywhere.

And generally disturbing descriptive imagery.

If you can handle that it's worth it as the story is fucking incredible.

Originally Posted by wittyusername

The guro stuff didn't really bother me. I don't know if that's because I was paying more attention to the story, or if it's a side effect of seeing everyone getting hugged and turned into Tang by a giant naked Rei. Most likely the first option, but if GNR can make me avoid Tang for the rest of my life, what can't she do?

The entire Komm, Susser Todd sequence was the greatest moment in animation, ever.

And yeah, I don't think I'll be able to drink Tang ever either, though I've never exactly looked for it...

[AnimeFan188]

HARUHI transsexual "She KYON" doujinshi sale

See:

http://74.125.47.132/translate_c?hl=...cjxw2acuJibJ1w


How many different gender-bender Haruhi fanfics are there out there anyway?

[isadorathegreat]

Originally Posted by AnimeFan188

How many different gender-bender Haruhi fanfics are there out there anyway?

Well, there are the ones archived here ... and I know there's a Kyonko C2 on fanfiction.net.

Other than that ... no idea.

[Heatth]

While on that matter, I wonder if Japan has a organized project like this one and if it has a concensus about the characters personality.

I mean, most english fanwork derives from here right? So most characters are more or less similar to how they are here (based on Kaisos view of then) right? The same occurs in Japan?

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by Heatth

While on that matter, I wonder if Japan has a organized project like this one and if it has a concensus about the characters personality.

I mean, most english fanwork derives from here right? So most characters are more or less similar to how they are here (based on Kaisos view of then) right? The same occurs in Japan?

Japan only seems to have various doujin works rather than a semi-organized group like this, but...

Most of the early character interpretations here were based off of a single, very early doujin, which in turn was simply based off of the archetypes we can easily see they embody just by looking at the original NicoNico video that started all of this.

So the basis is the same.

I applaud the person who decided that turning Kyon into a loli tsundere was a good idea.

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

I consider this the BEST IDEA EVER.

I still agree with myself to this very day.

[Heatth]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Japan only seems to have various doujin works rather than a semi-organized group like this, but...

Most of the early character interpretations here were based off of a single, very early doujin, which in turn was simply based off of the archetypes we can easily see they embody just by looking at the original NicoNico video that started all of this.

So the basis is the same.

I applaud the person who decided that turning Kyon into a loli tsundere was a good idea.

I see. Really it is not that different. Many ideas of the rewrite also come from these early doujins rights? Like the early "Be my bride!" or Ryou(*couth*Assassin*couth*) with a katana.

Originally Posted by Kaisos

I still agree with myself to this very day.

I guess it is why you are still writing it right?

But now I am curious with the names. Reading this first pages, I saw you trying to decides how it would be. It ends how it is now, but only Haruki's and Itsuko's are different from the japanese version. Coincidence?

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by Heatth

I see. Really it is not that different. Many ideas of the rewrite also come from these early doujins rights? Like the early "Be my bride!" or Ryou(*couth*Assassin*couth*) with a katana.

Ryou = Assassin is ALL Danchou's fault. None of mine.

And "be my bride" thing I consider stupid now. It seemed like a good idea at the time though.

Originally Posted by Heatth

But now I am curious with the names. Reading this first pages, I saw you trying to decides how it would be. It ends how it is now, but only Haruki's and Itsuko's are different from the japanese version. Coincidence?

Itsuko's Japanese name is "Itsuki", but with the "ki" being the kanji for "princess". We could have gone "Itsuhime" to preserve the joke, but I seem to remember it being simpler to just call her "Itsuko".

"Haruhiko" sounds stupid to an English reader, as we'd naturally separate it into "Haruhi" and "ko", which would be making an already feminine name even more feminine. In fact, it should be separated as "Haru" and "hiko", (the latter of which is a strongly masculine ending) but, again, to an English reader...

In any case, "Haruki" keep the correct number of syllables and seems to be a more common name anyway, so to the Elevens.

Although unlike "Haruhi" and "Haruhiko" it can actually be written in Kanji, but again, that doesn't matter to us.

Also, Shin used "Haruki" and "Itsuko" and he was one of the early driving forces, so it became "Haruki" and "Itsuko".

And knowing is half the battle! GI Joe!

[Heatth]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Ryou = Assassin is ALL Danchou's fault. None of mine.

Actually it is the guy who draw he first fault. They have very similar appearence. A friend, who isn't familiar with neither, could tell it by sight. I always thought this is why he end up with a katana inste a knife.

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

And "be my bride" thing I consider stupid now. It seemed like a good idea at the time though.

Very stupid, yeah. But also stupidly funny.

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Itsuko's Japanese name is "Itsuki", but with the "ki" being the kanji for "princess". We could have gone "Itsuhime" to preserve the joke, but I seem to remember it being simpler to just call her "Itsuko".

"Haruhiko" sounds stupid to an English reader, as we'd naturally separate it into "Haruhi" and "ko", which would be making an already feminine name even more feminine. In fact, it should be separated as "Haru" and "hiko", (the latter of which is a strongly masculine ending) but, again, to an English reader...

In any case, "Haruki" keep the correct number of syllables and seems to be a more common name anyway, so to the Elevens.

Although unlike "Haruhi" and "Haruhiko" it can actually be written in Kanji, but again, that doesn't matter to us.

Also, Shin used "Haruki" and "Itsuko" and he was one of the early driving forces, so it became "Haruki" and "Itsuko".

And knowing is half the battle! GI Joe!

That I know ("Haruhi" couldn't be writen with 'spring' and 'day', btw?)

I was talking about the other 2 guys. They are Mitsuuru and Yuuki in Japan too right? I saw you discussed a lot before agree, but the name ended being the same as in japan. Coicidence or you just decided use it to have less discrepancy?

Hey, remeber I telling you we have to have a 'history' page on our site? I was talking about stuff like this. The genderbent history is the Tsuji history after all.

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Oh, an addendum. I really like Haruki way better then Haruhiko. And while Itsu'hime' looks fine in kanji, how it would be if ever got dubbed? I say your ideas are better . (by 'your' I mean 'people of the forum". Damn english that do not have a second person plural)

[DannyCat]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Although unlike "Haruhi and "Haruhiko" it can actually be written in Kanji

Ways to write Haruhi in kanji, and ways to write Haruhiko in kanji.

Oddly enough, for some reason only Haruhi has a katakana reading common enough to include. And Haruki in katakana is listed as a female name. Actually, most ways of reading "Haruki" are female names.

[Heatth]

Originally Posted by DannyCat

Ways to write Haruhi in kanji, and ways to write Haruhiko in kanji.

Oddly enough, for some reason only Haruhi has a katakana reading common enough to include.

Interesting. I didn't now you cold mix hiragana and kanji (はる緋).

Amusely, while 'Haruhi' is always femele, 'Haruhiko" can be femele too. And it is 'haruhi-ko'(春日子).

I didn't understand that sit well. How can o look for "Haruki"?
Nevemind, I found a way.

Haruki in Kanji

Interestingly, 'Haruki' in katakana seens to be a female name. I can be male if is write in kanji, however. I wonder how our Haruki's name is write then... (not that it really matter for a english speaker)

[DannyCat]

Haruhi: 100% female
Haruki: 35% female, 4% male, 61% unspecified. (results truncated at 100)
Haruhiko: 83% male, 8% female, 9% unspecified.

Overall, Haruhiko appears to be the most masculine of the three.

[Heatth]

Originally Posted by DannyCat

Haruhi: 100% female
Haruki: 35% female, 4% male, 61% unspecified. (results truncated at 100)
Haruhiko: 83% male, 8% female, 9% unspecified.

Overall, Haruhiko appears to be the most masculine of the three.

True, this explain why the japanese choiced it. Yet, Haruki feel more natural to me (and other non-japanese speakers, I suppose).

By the way, I make a list of my favourites kanijs for Haruki:
開 (open, unseal) If Kyonko is the key, he is the door right?
啓己 (disclose, open + rough male "I") Same as before, but with the "ore" thing.
晴喜 (clear up + rejoice) Becaus of the "rejoice" part. Also, it is one of the few that are definetly male.
晴基 (clear up + fundation) Cause clearing up fundations is what he do.
暖生東樹 (warm + life + east + wood) Just because it is ridiculous big. I mean, how it is possible have more kanjis then hiraganas?

(feel free to ignore, I just like this kind of stuff)

While on the subject, Yuuki's and Mitsuru's don't seen to be much masculine either. Both only have one way to write that is definetly male.

This site also says that 'Kyon' is female! And that Kyonko does exist, as a female name, amusely, the kanjis, 今武子, means "now", "military" and "child".

Now I wonder if Kyon's name is Imatake (今武). It seens to be the only reading for this kanjis. But '今武子' is 'Kyonko' (not Imatako). Removing the 'ko'(子) we have 'kyon'. Tough neither of this names seens to be very known. Also, don't know it Imatake is royal sounding.