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ChibiBear · 2009-09-17, 03:27

About the end of the 12th episode where Rosa says:

Spoiler for Rosa:

Can someone offer a brief explaination?? Pretty please?? ^^

TheForsaken · 2009-09-17, 03:30

They'll explain it in the next ep.

Christen · 2009-09-17, 03:42

Next episode. We wouldn't want you to miss the shit-bricks factor.

ChibiBear · 2009-09-17, 03:44

LOL ok, thanks!

Dreamtale · 2009-09-17, 05:47

Guys, i have a stupid question, but...

How to translate names in english? E.G. "Battler" is written in japanese like "Battora", then why "Battler"?

ChibiBear · 2009-09-17, 05:57

I think the way they write 'Battora' in japanese, the kanji means 'fighting person'... well it does in chinese, so I'm assuming its the same in jap

Any japanese speakers feel free to correct me if I'm wrong...

Jan-Poo · 2009-09-17, 06:40

It's correct, plus the romanizations of most names are official, meaning that Ryukishi himself decided so. You will never see in any japanese video any romanization different from "Battler" or anything that differs from what witch hunt used for the main cast of the 18 people. The problem comes for other characters where an official romanization wasn't disclosed, but since in most cases they are references to existing names from occultism, myths (and divine comedy) you still have a pretty solid foundation.

BTW it's "Batora" not "Battora" ^_-

**Klashikari** · 2009-09-17, 11:29

For your instance, we do have official romanization for the characters aside of the 18. It was provided to us by BT when we were trying to get an inquiry about 縁寿, because of the whole wikipedia issue with UMG 4.

DrCnCh · 2009-09-17, 21:44

First time poster, long time Guest Lurker, but down to it.

There is something that has been bothering me since episode 9 of the anime, and I don't know if it has been addressed. Does Meta-Battler exert some kind of limited control over Piece-Battler?

Marion · 2009-09-17, 22:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrCnCh

First time poster, long time Guest Lurker, but down to it.

There is something that has been bothering me since episode 9 of the anime, and I don't know if it has been addressed. Does Meta-Battler exert some kind of limited control over Piece-Battler?

Yes and no. It's believed that Piece Battler's emotions are influenced by Meta-Battler, but Meta-Battler can in no way communicate with his piece form nor control his actions.

maximilianjenus · 2009-09-17, 22:16

everything points out to no

Jan-Poo · 2009-09-17, 22:37

And I say yes, although he can't make piece-Battler do what he can't do (like knowing that there is a metaworld and that there were other games). So leave it as: "we don't know, there isn't any definitive answer".

maximilianjenus · 2009-09-17, 23:48

It's even more fun in the novel because there are/were sometimes when meta-batler ois telling piece batler to "do this you dumb guy", while there are other times when piece batler's action are a direct consequence of meta batler's desires.

k//eternal · 2009-09-17, 23:54

It's possible that Meta-Battler can only cause Piece-Battler to take actions that are realistic for his situation, that is, he can't cause Piece-Battler to gain knowledge that he can't know or to act on said knowledge.

Ithekro · 2009-09-17, 23:55

You can only move a piece according to what piece it is on the game board. If Battler is the King, his movement is very limited.

Christen · 2009-09-18, 03:22

IIRC the only time Battler seemed to have an influence over Piece Battler was when Rosa was blaming Kanon for Jessica's murder. Then again, that knowledge wasn't impossible for Battler to know.

tezu · 2009-09-18, 09:13

I have a little question concerning Ep III-1:

Spoiler for Episode III:

Alair · 2009-09-18, 09:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by tezu

I have a little question concerning Ep III-1:

Spoiler for Episode III:

Spoiler:

ChibiBear · 2009-09-18, 18:55

In episode 2-6 (11), then Lambdadelta is talking about losing to Bernkastel, does she mean

Spoiler for Higurashi Kai:

Jan-Poo · 2009-09-18, 19:05

If you think Bernkastel is Frederika Bernkastel and Lambdadelta was behind the mastermind of higurashi then yes. If not, it's a previous battle whose nature was never disclosed

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ChibiBear Aim's Stalker ^_~ Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Australia Age: 29	About the end of the 12th episode where Rosa says: Spoiler for Rosa: 'I Killed Beatrice' Can someone offer a brief explaination?? Pretty please?? ^^ __________________ Meow meow nano desu~ Nipah~

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TheForsaken Winter is coming Join Date: Aug 2008	They'll explain it in the next ep. __________________

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ChibiBear Aim's Stalker ^_~ Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Australia Age: 29	LOL ok, thanks! __________________ Meow meow nano desu~ Nipah~

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ChibiBear Aim's Stalker ^_~ Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Australia Age: 29	I think the way they write 'Battora' in japanese, the kanji means 'fighting person'... well it does in chinese, so I'm assuming its the same in jap Any japanese speakers feel free to correct me if I'm wrong... __________________ Meow meow nano desu~ Nipah~

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Jan-Poo 別にいいけど Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: forever lost inside a logic error	It's correct, plus the romanizations of most names are official, meaning that Ryukishi himself decided so. You will never see in any japanese video any romanization different from "Battler" or anything that differs from what witch hunt used for the main cast of the 18 people. The problem comes for other characters where an official romanization wasn't disclosed, but since in most cases they are references to existing names from occultism, myths (and divine comedy) you still have a pretty solid foundation. BTW it's "Batora" not "Battora" ^_- __________________

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Christen Endless Nine Artist Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: In a certain tropical island Age: 38	Next episode. We wouldn't want you to miss the shit-bricks factor.

2009-09-17, 05:47	Link #305
Dreamtale Recursion... Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Russia, Moscow Age: 38	Guys, i have a stupid question, but... How to translate names in english? E.G. "Battler" is written in japanese like "Battora", then why "Battler"?

2009-09-17, 11:29	Link #308
Klashikari 阿賀野型3番艦、矢矧 Lv180 Graphic Designer Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Belgium, Brussels Age: 37	For your instance, we do have official romanization for the characters aside of the 18. It was provided to us by BT when we were trying to get an inquiry about 縁寿, because of the whole wikipedia issue with UMG 4. __________________ [Sig art: Kagura Yuu, Nunukko, Maku Rako & Mishima Kurone] / [Twitter]

2009-09-17, 21:44	Link #309
DrCnCh Incomprehensibly Named Join Date: Sep 2009 Age: 35	First time poster, long time Guest Lurker, but down to it. There is something that has been bothering me since episode 9 of the anime, and I don't know if it has been addressed. Does Meta-Battler exert some kind of limited control over Piece-Battler?

2009-09-17, 22:16	Link #311
maximilianjenus [E] Join Date: Mar 2008	everything points out to no

2009-09-17, 22:37	Link #312
Jan-Poo 別にいいけど Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: forever lost inside a logic error	And I say yes, although he can't make piece-Battler do what he can't do (like knowing that there is a metaworld and that there were other games). So leave it as: "we don't know, there isn't any definitive answer". __________________

2009-09-17, 23:48	Link #313
maximilianjenus [E] Join Date: Mar 2008	It's even more fun in the novel because there are/were sometimes when meta-batler ois telling piece batler to "do this you dumb guy", while there are other times when piece batler's action are a direct consequence of meta batler's desires.

2009-09-17, 23:54	Link #314
k//eternal do you know ベアトリーチェ様? Join Date: Dec 2003 Age: 35	It's possible that Meta-Battler can only cause Piece-Battler to take actions that are realistic for his situation, that is, he can't cause Piece-Battler to gain knowledge that he can't know or to act on said knowledge.

2009-09-17, 23:55	Link #315
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	You can only move a piece according to what piece it is on the game board. If Battler is the King, his movement is very limited. __________________

2009-09-18, 03:22	Link #316
Christen Endless Nine Artist Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: In a certain tropical island Age: 38	IIRC the only time Battler seemed to have an influence over Piece Battler was when Rosa was blaming Kanon for Jessica's murder. Then again, that knowledge wasn't impossible for Battler to know.

2009-09-18, 09:13	Link #317
tezu Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: cloud cuckoo land	I have a little question concerning Ep III-1: Spoiler for Episode III: 1) Can Meta!Battler see things that Piece!Battler doesn't experience, such as the adults's discussion about Beatrice? 2) I am confused about the time-line. Those flashbacks (young Eva, Klaus, Beatrice), did they all happen in reality, meaning before the night they were killed the first time or are they part of the game Battler and Beatrice are playing over and over again?

2009-09-18, 18:55	Link #319
ChibiBear Aim's Stalker ^_~ Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Australia Age: 29	In episode 2-6 (11), then Lambdadelta is talking about losing to Bernkastel, does she mean Spoiler for Higurashi Kai: Matsuribayashi-hen? __________________ Meow meow nano desu~ Nipah~

2009-09-18, 19:05	Link #320
Jan-Poo 別にいいけど Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: forever lost inside a logic error	If you think Bernkastel is Frederika Bernkastel and Lambdadelta was behind the mastermind of higurashi then yes. If not, it's a previous battle whose nature was never disclosed __________________