Macross Delta the Movie - Passionate Walkūre - Discussion Thread

[charles883]

I did not expect VF-31 also can equip ghost fighter like Draken. May be Messer use that equipment to counter Keith ghost so fight more fair.

[Mistyclear]

Mirage looks to be relegated to the background again. She got like what a two second cameo...from a reused scene.

[Tak]

Notice Mirage didn’t even have a line in the trailer?

Originally Posted by charles883

I did not expect VF-31 also can equip ghost fighter like Draken. May be Messer use that equipment to counter Keith ghost so fight more fair.

You mean Draken can also equip ghosts like VFs?

- Tak

[Convoy]

Originally Posted by Dash_Hunter

So from that trailer it seems like Walkure will be blamed and maybe persecuted for something, kinda like what happened to Sheryl in the second Frontier movie, there will be more Macross class ships or at least more Elysion type ship (is the Elysion a Macross class ship or is it a new ship class? did we get an answer to that?).

Don't quote me on this but I seem to recall that Macross Elysion is two-thirds the size of the SDF-1 and SDFN series. Elysion is also older than the quarter Macross type seen in Frontier.

I'm not sure if this trailer is firsy confirmation or merely reconfirmation that there is an entire series of two-thirds Macross ships.

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by Mistyclear

Mirage looks to be relegated to the background again. She got like what a two second cameo...from a reused scene.

It makes sense. It's just a movie, they don't have time for a silly love triangle. They'll probably devote most of the screentime to Freyja and Hayate's relationship and the music as weapon storyline with Mikumo and the Walkure.

[Mistyclear]

At least Mirage got a cameo even if no lines...despite being a main character.
Chuck and Arad didn’t get a mention let alone a cameo or lines... Even Roid got a line and a brief cameo alongside Keith.

[Tak]

Originally Posted by Convoy

Don't quote me on this but I seem to recall that Macross Elysion is two-thirds the size of the SDF-1 and SDFN series. Elysion is also older than the quarter Macross type seen in Frontier.

I'm not sure if this trailer is firsy confirmation or merely reconfirmation that there is an entire series of two-thirds Macross ships.

Keep in mind that there are multiple private military companies in the Macrossverse, each with slightly different standards. So having an entire series of 2/3 Macross is not entirely out of the question.

- Tak

[triangler_fans1]

I don't know why but the poster of the film reminds me of Ideon, Galient, old's anime.

[Convoy]

Originally Posted by Mistyclear

At least Mirage got a cameo even if no lines...despite being a main character.

I'm probably going to be disappointed, but I can still hope at present that Mirage will actually get in some kills this time around.

[Mistyclear]

Sigh* I find myself looking forward to and yet dreading this movie. After the let down of the second season, I’m slightly afraid about being let down like I was then.
Mirage and Mikumo in particular are a sore point, but Roid and Keith as well as the other knights are also sore points—they barely got any if any at all character development (anime wise, don’t have access to the mangas and novel)—instead (no offense as I do like them) the series just focused on Freyja and Hayate (MC’s I get it) particularly the second half, which came out all dramatic and took away from the other characters and more importantly the fight scenes!
After Messer the battle scenes weren’t nearly as good. Hayate never really learned to fight all that well without Freyja. I miss the scenes were the air battles were about the talent of the pilots themselves (I know Hayate has the potential, unfortunately the the creators never even tried to get him to live up to that potential, instead he became reliant on Freyja—came back to bite the duo too).
I sure hope the movie doesn’t follow the same trend and ruin the characters like the anime did (aside from Kaname and Messer <3). Want to see it and at the same time not...might as well keep my expectations as low as possible, so I don’t become overly disappointed.
....sorry got carried away, will end the post here.

[Jingdot]

I haven't watched the movie yet because I'm poor, but according to JP Twitter and stuff the movie was "excellent" and a thousand times better than the whole 24 episodes of the anime. So far all of those who watched loved it and say that a lot of things were changed for the better.

I dived myself into all the spoilers I could find and damn, it sounds so good. I want to watch it, like, right now D:

[Tak]

Huh, the movie is out eh? Delta almost fell off my radar, I guess I have something to look forward to... maybe I’d be able to acquire additional ‘inspirations’...


- Tak

[Jingdot]

Originally Posted by Tak

Huh, the movie is out eh? Delta almost fell off my radar, I guess I have something to look forward to... maybe I’d be able to acquire additional ‘inspirations’...


- Tak

I think you can really look forward to it, so far I haven't seen anyone really complaining. There were lots of epic fight scenes and from what I read, they really played a lot parts well and cut unnecessary things.

I just don't know if I'm allowed to post spoilers about a movie that just aired yesterday (going by jp time) so I'll keep silent for now

[Bgunit]

Originally Posted by Jingdot

I think you can really look forward to it, so far I haven't seen anyone really complaining. There were lots of epic fight scenes and from what I read, they really played a lot parts well and cut unnecessary things.

I just don't know if I'm allowed to post spoilers about a movie that just aired yesterday (going by jp time) so I'll keep silent for now

Don't worry people do it all the time on this site and myanimelist

[Jingdot]

Ehh well I don't know, I didn't find anything in the forum rules but I wouldn't wanna bet lol



But from what I heard, there are certainly parts that were changed for the greater good. Must be meaning something when almost everyone says that the 2hour movie is better than the 24-episode anime (even tho I liked the anime, no matter what anyone says)

[Tak]

Originally Posted by Jingdot

(even tho I liked the anime, no matter what anyone says)

Wuh!? Sorry, I didn't quite catch it last time. *Click* -Holds Jingdot's cat hostage- You want to repeat that last statement one more time?

- Tak

[Jingdot]

Originally Posted by Tak

Wuh!? Sorry, I didn't quite catch it last time. *Click* -Holds Jingdot's cat hostage- You want to repeat that last statement one more time?

- Tak

C'mon Tak the first half wasn't THAT bad D: The second cour... well. It had its... moments I guess?


But the movie makes up for it entirely

[CriiGV]

I actually quite enjoyed the tv show as well, although I'm excited for the movie from the spoilers I've read.

True, they left out some stuff (that I was really looking forward to, darn you Kawamori) but everyone who's watched the movie so far agrees that it's definitely an upgrade from the tv series.

Also, more Freyja is always good.

Now, if only I lived in Japan and spoke japanese

[charles883]

Im glad studio learned from their mistake and fix the flaw of Macross Delta in the movie.

Those who watched movie already, please spoil me who final boss of the movie and did Messar survive?

[Dash_Hunter]

Originally Posted by charles883

Im glad studio learned from their mistake and fix the flaw of Macross Delta in the movie.

Those who watched movie already, please spoil me who final boss of the movie and did Messar survive?

Ok, all of this is just what I have read in other sites

Spoiler for Final Boss and Messer:

The final Boss again is Roid/Lloyd with a Mind controlled Mikumo.

Messer this time is the one to take Keith's eye, also they recreate the scene of the laser going to his cockpit BUT this time he dodges it... just to be badly wounded from other attack and finally dying in Kaname's arms. (God dammit they had one job!)

Spoiler for Rough Summary of the Movie:

-Freyja is stowing away on a cargo ship on her way to Ragna to audition for Walkure
-The ship comes under the influence of Var
-Hayate is already part of Delta squad
-Freyja gets found by Var'd crewmembers, starts singing
-Hayate notices her from space
-Jumps in to save her, but gets tackled by another var'd crewmember
-Freyja's singing devars them, Hayate thanks her for saving him even though he originally intended to save her
-Freyja goes with Delta squadron to Ragna even though the Walkure auditions are over
-Becomes a team member despite not being able to replicate the fold readings from the cargo ship
-Bokura no Senjou scene is just a failure, no Hayate exam
-They just figure that she's the type that can only do the real thing
-Hayate sneaks her into his plane and they do the Rune ga Pikatto scene
-Freyja is still training with Walkure, including that tire and mud scene from the second half of the TV show
-They hold the Fukakuteisei concert, but they sing a new song instead
-The windies attack and it becomes the delta episode 1 scene with Ikenai Borderline and Hayate dancing in his VF
-Meanwhile, the Windies capture Al Shaha
-They hold the concert from the second half in order to get intel
-They go to Al Shahal and have the Hametsu no Junjou scene, activate the protoculture shit, Messer dies, Walkure gets captured, and Mirage and Hayate get shot down and stow aboard a windy ship
-Before Walkure is captured, Mikumo mindrapes the Heinz and he gets the crystallization on most of his face, becomes irrelevant for the rest of the film
-I think at this point Lloyd says something about being able to reverse the aging problem if they stop singing or whatever, Freyja tells him to pound sand
-Mikumo is mindcontrolled into the star singer
-Walkure starts singing and prisonbreaks as windies invade Ragna
-Mirage and Hayate recovers some planes (one of which is Messer's), Hayate comments on some photos in the VF of Messer smiling and Mirage gets her only lines in the entire film
-They break out, final fight starts, Freyja jumps off the Elysion like she did in the middle of Delta but starts singing Walkure wa Uragiranai
-They break Mikumo of mind control, sing ichidake
-Mikumo is recovered, shirokishi stabs Lloyd
-They have the messer sendoff and jellyfish scene
-the end
-ED is Dancing in the Moonlight