The Genderbending of Haruhi Suzumiya [Spoilers Aplenty]

[DJ_RockmanX]

Originally Posted by otai

Perhaps a Tomoyo~After style eroge?

Except probably a lot more light-hearted and just plain happier in general. It would be a spinoff of the GOOD END after all.

[Ithekro]

My voicing of Key style was mainly artistic quality, since it fits the existing art style better. I also allows for ease of transistion use of KyoAni styled images from Haruhi and various Key projects.

Route/game mechanic wise....I woudn't know.

[DJ_RockmanX]

Originally Posted by Ithekro

My voicing of Key style was mainly artistic quality, since it fits the existing art style better. I also allows for ease of transistion use of KyoAni styled images from Haruhi and various Key projects.

Route/game mechanic wise....I woudn't know.

Ah, the KeyAni art style. That's indeed the logical approach to take. But first we STILL need to acquire some dedicated artists/photoshoppers to be our bitches kindly help us out in the image production department.

[Tyabann]

And my advocation of the Type-Moon style was due my love of FSN's general interface. Only thing I hate is the text boxes. We can use LB's style for that.

Key art is good, though, basing it off say, this would probably be easier.

Originally Posted by dkellis

When I was trying it out for myself, I think the problems I faced were manifold: for example, there were too many characters to be introduced all at once, and I never did decide where in the theoretical timeline the story would be set.

We were thinking September. NONE of the stories are set in September.

[dkellis]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

We were thinking September. NONE of the stories are set in September.

That's interesting. If I'm not mistaken, September tends to have sports festivals in the typical high school anime, and the novels haven't dealt with that yet. Although I think an alternate date would be sometime in May for some schools.

The manga does have a sports festival story ("Get in the Ring"), where Haruhi proves once again to be a sore loser (at least at first).

[Ithekro]

I seem to recall mentions in passing by Kyon of the SOS-dan participating in various sporting events...winning them all...or maybe it was just Haruhi and Yuki...don't remember for sure. I think it was in Book 2 before they started filming.

[C.A.]

It was Haruhi and Yuki lol, Yuki particle repositioned herself round the track for relay.

[Ithekro]

Might be the source of Kyon's attitude during the computer game fight..."no tricks"...but hax is fine too.

[C.A.]

Very likely.

One reason I believe that discussions on forums is essential for everyone to fully grasp every single detail on the story.

[Arceon]

Originally Posted by DJ_RockmanX

Ah, the KeyAni art style. That's indeed the logical approach to take. But first we STILL need to acquire some dedicated artists/photoshoppers to be our bitches kindly help us out in the image production department.

Hey, I'm free for artistic work in the artist department, though you'd still need to find an adequately skilled enough person in photoshop to help me out, or teach me. xD

[dkellis]

Originally Posted by DJ_RockmanX

So many votes for a Key version/route... I guess I'll have to think of something for you guys.

Incidentally, I should note that I know of Key works only from the anime adaptations. I don't actually believe that a Key-style story will be suitable, mainly because from what I know (and can never figure out why), Key stories have some sort of mystical aspect which gets glossed over as an unimportant plot device.

In this case, I suppose "Haruhi(/ki) did it" is an acceptable handwave explanation, but then it becomes quite significant to Kyon(ko), who's likely to at least comment on the absurdity of it all. Not to mention that the magical stuff in a Key story is usually played for the heartstrings, while the kinda-magical stuff in MoHS is done as part of the larger ontological mystery.

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by dkellis

That's interesting. If I'm not mistaken, September tends to have sports festivals in the typical high school anime, and the novels haven't dealt with that yet. Although I think an alternate date would be sometime in May for some schools.

The manga does have a sports festival story ("Get in the Ring"), where Haruhi proves once again to be a sore loser (at least at first).

North High's sports festival is in October, as evidenced by the fact that Kyon mentions it in Vol. 2, which takes place in early November.

So yeah. NOTHING happens in September.

Originally Posted by dkellis

Incidentally, I should note that I know of Key works only from the anime adaptations. I don't actually believe that a Key-style story will be suitable, mainly because from what I know (and can never figure out why), Key stories have some sort of mystical aspect which gets glossed over as an unimportant plot device.

In this case, I suppose "Haruhi(/ki) did it" is an acceptable handwave explanation, but then it becomes quite significant to Kyon(ko), who's likely to at least comment on the absurdity of it all. Not to mention that the magical stuff in a Key story is usually played for the heartstrings, while the kinda-magical stuff in MoHS is done as part of the larger ontological mystery.

And this is why we do a Type-Moon style story instead.

[otai]

A visinov is a visinov. You choose a girl and you experience her heartwarming story. Rinse and repeat. Key's real schtick is their gut-wrenching, tear-jerking third act, when the girl finally confronts her tragic past and conquers it with the player's love. Magic is usually reserved for the main girl.
Fundamentally, Tsukuhime doesn't deviate from this. The only difference is that your choices don't intuitively indicate if you are building up flags or are going to get eaten by a landshark.
FSN, OTOH feels different. You aren't chasing girls; rather you are setting Shirou's character, and the girl he builds a relationship with is simply incidental to that path in life.

What I think we actually want is a FSN style story, built around a dimensional clashing incident; and the pairings are based on how the player chooses to solve the problem? (Alien, Esper or Time traveller route?)

[DJ_RockmanX]

Originally Posted by otai

What I think we actually want is a FSN style story, built around a dimensional clashing incident; and the pairings are based on how the player chooses to solve the problem? (Alien, Esper or Time traveller route?)

You catch on pretty quick. I'll also add that the current plan is for most routes to be segregated based on which character becomes the primary villain. Conveniently they will fall along the same lines as the route heroines, since we're trying to maximize the whole Tsuji Clash element.

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by otai

What I think we actually want is a FSN style story, built around a dimensional clashing incident; and the pairings are based on how the player chooses to solve the problem? (Alien, Esper or Time traveller route?)

Bingo. Though there are other routes than this.

Originally Posted by DJ_RockmanX

You catch on pretty quick. I'll also add that the current plan is for most routes to be segregated based on which character becomes the primary villain. Conveniently they will fall along the same lines as the route heroines, since we're trying to maximize the whole Tsuji Clash element.

Hence wonderful things like ANGRY Yuuki.


In other news, I CANT FEEL MY FACE!

[Nanao-kun]

The nomination phase for ISML ended. What do you guys think of the ones chosen?

[unmoldedtruck]

I think that I'm going to vote for Shiki every chance I get.

Edit: Goddamnit. I don't want to decide between some of them. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH. And Nagato wins over Shiki. Religion before love.

[Nanao-kun]

Originally Posted by beanbrew

I think that I'm going to vote for Shiki every chance I get.

Edit: Goddamnit. I don't want to decide between some of them. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH. And Nagato wins over Shiki. Religion before love.

I nominated Shiki twice. From my home computer, and my schools computer. So yeah, I'm going to vote for Shiki over Yuki. Blasphemous I know, but I can't really help voting for a girl I could fall in love with.

[Ithekro]

It is round robin...(mostly) they won't get to that point for a while yet.

First the 48 nominations need to be whittled down to 27. Then the 27 are in to face the currently standing 37...round robin style...until July/August. Then double elimination for the top 16 in September/October.

And while it says no expections...Yuki is on top. I will never vote against Nagato Yuki.

[DJ_RockmanX]

Uhh... why we talking about ISML?