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Applehell · 2019-01-11, 15:35

The alien looking guys aren't humans tho, even if they are eating them.

PreSage · 2019-01-11, 21:38

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Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

12 episodes, though I'm certain it will eventually be fully adapted. Shueisha is doing what they always do with their golden geese, making sure they don't blow through material too quickly on the anime side.

I believe the mangaka said recently she thought the series was about halfway through her intended story arc.

Only 12 episodes? I really hope there will be a second and/or third season for this. The first episode shows a lot of promise storywise.

BBOvenGuy · 2019-01-11, 22:11

Questions, questions, I have questions...

If the kids are just food, what's the point of testing them all the time? Does intelligence make them tastier? Does it provide extra nutrients for the monsters? And if Emma and her friends get perfect scores, why eat them? Why not set them aside as breeding stock?

If the kids are food, why go to the expense of creating this big farm and a life of fun and comfort? Why not just put them in the human equivalent of veal-fattening pens? Are the kids being advertised as free range? Do they get sold at the monster version of the Whole Foods Market?

Yes, it was well-done and proper scary, but they've got some 'spainin' to do.

Nivek von Beldo · 2019-01-11, 22:43

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Originally Posted by BBOvenGuy

Questions, questions, I have questions...

If the kids are just food, what's the point of testing them all the time? Does intelligence make them tastier? Does it provide extra nutrients for the monsters? And if Emma and her friends get perfect scores, why eat them? Why not set them aside as breeding stock?

If the kids are food, why go to the expense of creating this big farm and a life of fun and comfort? Why not just put them in the human equivalent of veal-fattening pens? Are the kids being advertised as free range? Do they get sold at the monster version of the Whole Foods Market?

Yes, it was well-done and proper scary, but they've got some 'spainin' to do.

That is why the food reveal is more unsettling, if they were just child soldiers as i thought they were(or slaves) the smarts make sense..here dunno maybe something lke that

orion · 2019-01-12, 10:23

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Originally Posted by BBOvenGuy

Questions, questions, I have questions...

If the kids are just food, what's the point of testing them all the time? Does intelligence make them tastier? Does it provide extra nutrients for the monsters? And if Emma and her friends get perfect scores, why eat them? Why not set them aside as breeding stock?

If the kids are food, why go to the expense of creating this big farm and a life of fun and comfort? Why not just put them in the human equivalent of veal-fattening pens? Are the kids being advertised as free range? Do they get sold at the monster version of the Whole Foods Market?

Yes, it was well-done and proper scary, but they've got some 'spainin' to do.

Maybe it's also a control thing. They think, "We have so much power that we are dining on the best of the humans. Eliminate the best of the humans and we stay in power.".

Ghostfriendly · 2019-01-12, 10:51

Nice start, classic premise very atmospheric. We'll probably see at some point where the children originally come from (humans may be bred somewhere else, or they could be produced artificially, but the children don't seem like clones). The little girl at the end said that she 'didn't want anymore death in her family' suggesting that she knew her parents before they died, though it could mean a few other things.

It's likely enough that the aliens get nourishment from the mental energy of human brains, since the children with higher test scores are 'high-quality', and that would explain why they're eating humans rather than animals in the first place.

Kanon · 2019-01-12, 11:12

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Originally Posted by Ghostfriendly

Nice start, classic premise very atmospheric. We'll probably see at some point where the children originally come from (humans may be bred somewhere else, or they could be produced artificially, but the children don't seem like clones). The little girl at the end said that she 'didn't want anymore death in her family' suggesting that she knew her parents before they died, though it could mean a few other things.

Her family are the other kids at the orphanage. She said as much earlier in the episode. It was made clear in the episode they've never known anything beside the "House".

~Yami~ · 2019-01-12, 11:34

looking at all questions here, I'm really excited to let people wait for the episodes itself

you all have similar questions that I had after reading the early chapter of the manga

and yes... Emma recognized only the whole orphanage as her family.. it is implied strongly since the trailer

zeando · 2019-01-12, 16:48

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Originally Posted by BBOvenGuy

Questions, questions, I have questions...

1) If the kids are just food, what's the point of testing them all the time? Does intelligence make them tastier? Does it provide extra nutrients for the monsters? And if Emma and her friends get perfect scores, why eat them? Why not set them aside as breeding stock?

2) If the kids are food, why go to the expense of creating this big farm and a life of fun and comfort? Why not just put them in the human equivalent of veal-fattening pens? Are the kids being advertised as free range? Do they get sold at the monster version of the Whole Foods Market?

1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foie_gras
2) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_egg_production

Yeah, i'm going to go along those guesses

The fact alone the monsters mentioned that place was a farm for high quality production must mean there are also farms of lower quality.

Ghostfriendly · 2019-01-12, 18:19

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Originally Posted by Kanon

Her family are the other kids at the orphanage. She said as much earlier in the episode. It was made clear in the episode they've never known anything beside the "House".

That was an explanation I thought of; for a small child she would have accepted surprisingly quickly that Connie and all the other kids to leave the orphanage were actually dead, but it's quite plausible.

Stark700 · 2019-01-17, 12:54

Episode 2

Damn, Emma looks really shaken up after returning. Can't blame her after what she saw. I like how they managed to capture how she felt. Between the two, I find Norman to be more mature and intelligent. Good amount of character chemistry between him and Emma. I feel like the two have a decent amount of trust between each other.

The Ray/Emma moments were amusing. Emma still acts like a kid her age

Some of the scenes between Mama and the kids were also really tense. Really love how they capture the atmosphere of the settings again. I think the studio and producers did a great job at that.

Kanon · 2019-01-17, 14:21

Didn't they cut some stuff? I thought there were more mindgames before Krone was brought in, but maybe my memory is failing me.

Emma and Norman both have their limits, but they're pretty tough. It was pretty ballsy of Emma to bring up Conny to see how Mama would react. And of course, she showed no reaction.

Enlisting Ray was the logical choice. He's just as smart and more composed than the other two.

Wandering Soul · 2019-01-17, 15:47

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Originally Posted by Kanon

Didn't they cut some stuff? I thought there were more mindgames before Krone was brought in, but maybe my memory is failing me.

You're not the only one that feels that way. I'm sure we should have gotten another episode or two before Krone shows up.

EDIT: Yeah, just checked and there actually is some content that they cut out before Krone shows up.

BWTraveller · 2019-01-17, 18:25

I'm not entirely sure I buy the brain part. From what I've heard, the brain continues to develop well after that, all the way through puberty and then a little longer. I'd even heard that certain portions of the brain involved in rational decision continue to develop into the early twenties. Maybe it's just the overall size that stops changing then, or the developments that improve taste halt at that point.

One thing I wonder is just where they're getting the babies from. Normally a ranch either keeps a bull around as a stud or connects with a stud farm and has some of their females bear children. The kids have to be coming from somewhere, so either there's a human society out there somewhere that's being forced to hand over a portion of their children, or they have a special farm where some kids are deliberately raised and then forced to mate. Frankly, if they were serious about maximizing taste this is what they actually would do I'd think. Raise the kids the way they'd been raised, weeding out the low-quality meat as soon as it's grown enough for harvesting, and then send the very best crops to special places where they're forced to make children year by year, thus preserving the traits that produce such high quality material.

Requiem-x · 2019-01-17, 18:51

Well, that was great. Great atmosphere, excellent showing of the obvious feelings of terror both Emma and Norman would get after such a scene, and it's hard not to love the trio already. Also, very glad they already pointed out the demon society issue already.

Nivek von Beldo · 2019-01-17, 21:01

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Originally Posted by BWTraveller

I'm not entirely sure I buy the brain part. From what I've heard, the brain continues to develop well after that, all the way through puberty and then a little longer. I'd even heard that certain portions of the brain involved in rational decision continue to develop into the early twenties. Maybe it's just the overall size that stops changing then, or the developments that improve taste halt at that point.

One thing I wonder is just where they're getting the babies from. Normally a ranch either keeps a bull around as a stud or connects with a stud farm and has some of their females bear children. The kids have to be coming from somewhere, so either there's a human society out there somewhere that's being forced to hand over a portion of their children, or they have a special farm where some kids are deliberately raised and then forced to mate. Frankly, if they were serious about maximizing taste this is what they actually would do I'd think. Raise the kids the way they'd been raised, weeding out the low-quality meat as soon as it's grown enough for harvesting, and then send the very best crops to special places where they're forced to make children year by year, thus preserving the traits that produce such high quality material.

I think is something like societal control and the farm is just a drop in the whole system

This anime is so brutal , the tension is so real without tricks,that is reason why is so highly rated in the shonen jump

~Yami~ · 2019-01-18, 03:18

Promised Neverland like to kick off all the plot holes from the start.. Norman-Ray already think about how to survive outside the orphanage

Emma is always an idealist... she is not that naive fortunately... but she still worked harder than anyone to achieve her ideal plan
Norman is the guy who make it happen for Emma.... Love is scary feelings
while Ray is someone who valued Emma and Norman highly as his best friend.. so he won't let them walk to the path of hell

I like that they showed occasionally that Emma and Norman are still children.. there is no way they could win in mindgames against Isabel.. Emma and Norman would not be able to hold on that long in front of her

Every scenes here are pretty relatable because they are realistic... they showed how far a children could think and how frightening going against an experienced adult is

and also I also think they skipped several mindgames
but no problem... we got SISTER KROOOONNEEE already

Random14 · 2019-01-18, 04:06

I'm liking this adaptation less now. Last week they skipped a scene or two so I didn't mind too much, but now it feels like they skipped about a chapter's worth of content, give or take. If this was normal shonen I wouldn't care too much, since a lot of regular shonen is made up of action pages, but as we're starting to see, this anime's main focus will be the mind games between Emma, Norman (and now Ray) against their mom.

Well, maybe they'll add scenes back in later but I'm worried they'll rush things too much. Though if they're going to squeeze in the first arc they do have a lot to cover.

Anyway, the atmosphere has sure changed from happy orphanage now that they realize they're being raised as livestock. On the bright side, having Ray join them increases their brainpower a good deal. On the down side, Ray's a lot more... practical than Emma, so now its down to Norman to mediate between the two extremes. Especially with that last scene making things much more complicated, oh dear.

GreyZone · 2019-01-18, 22:35

Just watched the first two episodes of the anime and I already feel so tempted to just read the manga and catch up.

Truly great setting with a great amount of potential. If it doesn't drop the ball, the anime is likely what I'll vote for "best world setting" for the next AnimeSuki awards.

I also want to mention that you could really see the "fakeness" and "insincereness" of "Mom's" smile from the very beginning.

Last Sinner · 2019-01-19, 10:40

The second time I watch the OP, I notice someone I didn't see in Ep1. And look who shows up at the end of Ep2...They sure like to stack the odds against the trio.

While male reason vs female emotion can be something to generate moral discussion and to define characters, I hope it isn't weighed upon too much and applied to every character. That said, even though Emma is more emotion-oriented, there's definitely a lot of male protagonists she's far more stable than.

Listed as 12 episodes. So they've got 10 left to fill in the first arc. Friends of mine who read the manga said they expected the first arc to be covered in full with inevitable trimming of parts.

What still strikes me is how effective snap-reactions are in this title. The cliched drawn-out moments/scenes that tick me off so much in shounen aren't here. Characters get to the point and world building is established through their actions or conversations.

Things about the world that I hope are resolved or at least partially addressed in whatever is covered in this first season:

1. How exactly are children 'born' in a place like this? I'm going to guess they're artifically generated. Not seeing the normal way working in this kind of world.

2. What exactly happened to take things to the point of humans being farm produce? Was it always that way or were humans once in control of that world?

3. What does it take for people like Isabella and Krone to avoid the fate of what happens to these kids? That is, presuming those two actually are human.

4. What level of technology exists in general? Monitors used for testing, the trucks, the storage containers and the tracking devices are the only significant modern-ish ones I've seen so far. Presuming things are more modern outside the barrier.

5. The episode titles seem to indicate something matters about the point in time this takes place in. The 45 at the end of both episodes made me wonder whether this is meant to be some bizarre alternate nightmare world right after World War 2 where aliens/demon with far advanced technology won. But that sounds way too obvious.

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Stark700 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Somewhere on Earth	Episode 2 Damn, Emma looks really shaken up after returning. Can't blame her after what she saw. I like how they managed to capture how she felt. Between the two, I find Norman to be more mature and intelligent. Good amount of character chemistry between him and Emma. I feel like the two have a decent amount of trust between each other. The Ray/Emma moments were amusing. Emma still acts like a kid her age Some of the scenes between Mama and the kids were also really tense. Really love how they capture the atmosphere of the settings again. I think the studio and producers did a great job at that. __________________

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Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	Didn't they cut some stuff? I thought there were more mindgames before Krone was brought in, but maybe my memory is failing me. Emma and Norman both have their limits, but they're pretty tough. It was pretty ballsy of Emma to bring up Conny to see how Mama would react. And of course, she showed no reaction. Enlisting Ray was the logical choice. He's just as smart and more composed than the other two. __________________

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GreyZone "Senior" "Member" Join Date: Jan 2012	Just watched the first two episodes of the anime and I already feel so tempted to just read the manga and catch up. Truly great setting with a great amount of potential. If it doesn't drop the ball, the anime is likely what I'll vote for "best world setting" for the next AnimeSuki awards. I also want to mention that you could really see the "fakeness" and "insincereness" of "Mom's" smile from the very beginning. __________________ Last edited by GreyZone; 2019-01-18 at 22:46.

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Last Sinner You're Hot, Cupcake Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 42	The second time I watch the OP, I notice someone I didn't see in Ep1. And look who shows up at the end of Ep2...They sure like to stack the odds against the trio. While male reason vs female emotion can be something to generate moral discussion and to define characters, I hope it isn't weighed upon too much and applied to every character. That said, even though Emma is more emotion-oriented, there's definitely a lot of male protagonists she's far more stable than. Listed as 12 episodes. So they've got 10 left to fill in the first arc. Friends of mine who read the manga said they expected the first arc to be covered in full with inevitable trimming of parts. What still strikes me is how effective snap-reactions are in this title. The cliched drawn-out moments/scenes that tick me off so much in shounen aren't here. Characters get to the point and world building is established through their actions or conversations. Things about the world that I hope are resolved or at least partially addressed in whatever is covered in this first season: 1. How exactly are children 'born' in a place like this? I'm going to guess they're artifically generated. Not seeing the normal way working in this kind of world. 2. What exactly happened to take things to the point of humans being farm produce? Was it always that way or were humans once in control of that world? 3. What does it take for people like Isabella and Krone to avoid the fate of what happens to these kids? That is, presuming those two actually are human. 4. What level of technology exists in general? Monitors used for testing, the trucks, the storage containers and the tracking devices are the only significant modern-ish ones I've seen so far. Presuming things are more modern outside the barrier. 5. The episode titles seem to indicate something matters about the point in time this takes place in. The 45 at the end of both episodes made me wonder whether this is meant to be some bizarre alternate nightmare world right after World War 2 where aliens/demon with far advanced technology won. But that sounds way too obvious. __________________

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Applehell Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2016	The alien looking guys aren't humans tho, even if they are eating them.

2019-01-11, 22:11	Link #43
BBOvenGuy Math Ninja Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ventura County CA Age: 59	Questions, questions, I have questions... If the kids are just food, what's the point of testing them all the time? Does intelligence make them tastier? Does it provide extra nutrients for the monsters? And if Emma and her friends get perfect scores, why eat them? Why not set them aside as breeding stock? If the kids are food, why go to the expense of creating this big farm and a life of fun and comfort? Why not just put them in the human equivalent of veal-fattening pens? Are the kids being advertised as free range? Do they get sold at the monster version of the Whole Foods Market? Yes, it was well-done and proper scary, but they've got some 'spainin' to do.

2019-01-12, 10:51	Link #46
Ghostfriendly Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008	Nice start, classic premise very atmospheric. We'll probably see at some point where the children originally come from (humans may be bred somewhere else, or they could be produced artificially, but the children don't seem like clones). The little girl at the end said that she 'didn't want anymore death in her family' suggesting that she knew her parents before they died, though it could mean a few other things. It's likely enough that the aliens get nourishment from the mental energy of human brains, since the children with higher test scores are 'high-quality', and that would explain why they're eating humans rather than animals in the first place.

2019-01-12, 11:34	Link #48
~Yami~ a random Indonesian otaku Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Xanadu Age: 32	looking at all questions here, I'm really excited to let people wait for the episodes itself you all have similar questions that I had after reading the early chapter of the manga and yes... Emma recognized only the whole orphanage as her family.. it is implied strongly since the trailer

2019-01-17, 18:25	Link #54
BWTraveller Born to ship Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Texas	I'm not entirely sure I buy the brain part. From what I've heard, the brain continues to develop well after that, all the way through puberty and then a little longer. I'd even heard that certain portions of the brain involved in rational decision continue to develop into the early twenties. Maybe it's just the overall size that stops changing then, or the developments that improve taste halt at that point. One thing I wonder is just where they're getting the babies from. Normally a ranch either keeps a bull around as a stud or connects with a stud farm and has some of their females bear children. The kids have to be coming from somewhere, so either there's a human society out there somewhere that's being forced to hand over a portion of their children, or they have a special farm where some kids are deliberately raised and then forced to mate. Frankly, if they were serious about maximizing taste this is what they actually would do I'd think. Raise the kids the way they'd been raised, weeding out the low-quality meat as soon as it's grown enough for harvesting, and then send the very best crops to special places where they're forced to make children year by year, thus preserving the traits that produce such high quality material.

2019-01-17, 18:51	Link #55
Requiem-x The slacking one Join Date: Apr 2012	Well, that was great. Great atmosphere, excellent showing of the obvious feelings of terror both Emma and Norman would get after such a scene, and it's hard not to love the trio already. Also, very glad they already pointed out the demon society issue already.

2019-01-18, 03:18	Link #57
~Yami~ a random Indonesian otaku Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Xanadu Age: 32	Promised Neverland like to kick off all the plot holes from the start.. Norman-Ray already think about how to survive outside the orphanage Emma is always an idealist... she is not that naive fortunately... but she still worked harder than anyone to achieve her ideal plan Norman is the guy who make it happen for Emma.... Love is scary feelings while Ray is someone who valued Emma and Norman highly as his best friend.. so he won't let them walk to the path of hell I like that they showed occasionally that Emma and Norman are still children.. there is no way they could win in mindgames against Isabel.. Emma and Norman would not be able to hold on that long in front of her Every scenes here are pretty relatable because they are realistic... they showed how far a children could think and how frightening going against an experienced adult is and also I also think they skipped several mindgames but no problem... we got SISTER KROOOONNEEE already

2019-01-18, 04:06	Link #58
Random14 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014	I'm liking this adaptation less now. Last week they skipped a scene or two so I didn't mind too much, but now it feels like they skipped about a chapter's worth of content, give or take. If this was normal shonen I wouldn't care too much, since a lot of regular shonen is made up of action pages, but as we're starting to see, this anime's main focus will be the mind games between Emma, Norman (and now Ray) against their mom. Well, maybe they'll add scenes back in later but I'm worried they'll rush things too much. Though if they're going to squeeze in the first arc they do have a lot to cover. Anyway, the atmosphere has sure changed from happy orphanage now that they realize they're being raised as livestock. On the bright side, having Ray join them increases their brainpower a good deal. On the down side, Ray's a lot more... practical than Emma, so now its down to Norman to mediate between the two extremes. Especially with that last scene making things much more complicated, oh dear.