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On Kinji: Well just think about it from Kinji's shoes. He's being pushed around by all these fierce girls and so his stress levels would build up eventually. Aria isn't blameless either, seeing as she's the descendent of Sherlock, those numerous misunderstandings are getting annoying after a few volumes. Kinji is a misogynist, plus his experiences in middle school when he was dealing with girls gave him a bit of a trauma. So Kinji naturally doesn't wish to go into HSS anymore and moreover doesn't want girls taking advantage of him again, therefore he keeps HSS a secret from most of the girls. It seems to me that Kinji's frustrations arise from his inferiority towards HSS Kinji. Most of his friends and comrades-in-arms look up to HSS Kinji, while most people usually never acknowledge the normal Kinji, with the of exception Reki. Perhaps, the expectations that people have for Kinji is weighing down on him so harshly that he became indifferent and stopped desiring to become an 'ally of justice' anymore. Although, Kinji's goal is to transfer to normal high school and live an ordinary life, Kinji hasn't thought that far ahead about what he's doing afterwards. Well Reki will just end up following him anyways lol. Yes, that is the basic formula in almost every novel, Kinji and Aria have a fallout, then an enemy attacks them. This must be a sign that Kinji and Aria just aren't meant to be together lol. Your frustration with Kinji will be alleviated with volume 7 hopefully. On Reki: If you read volume 7 after its translated, then you will understand Reki's character and intentions more. Reki's body may be that of teenager, but her mind is that of a child's, you can't blame her for that. She does have a bit of individuality though, Reki stated in the epilogue of volume 6 that she was truthfully very glad to be engaged with Kinji, enjoyed shopping and having fun with him. She confessed a bit of her feelings there. After hanging out with Kinji, 'emotions' started blossoming inside Reki. On Jeanne: Although Jeanne doesn't dislike Kinji, there were a few blushing and awkward scenes between the two. She also wears a maid outfit in volume 8, you can see it in the illustrations I think. Well the light novels haven't fully revealed Jeanne's background story that much, so its too early to say. The reason why I like Jeanne is because she's so blunt and truthful lol. It really doesn't matter to me if she's part of the harem or not, she will still be Jeanne. You people are over thinking this. P.S. If there is one thing that I learned from HnA, it is to never judge a character prematurely. The characters have their reasons for behaving the way they do, including the villains/enemies. For example, I completely misjudged Riko's character before hearing her background story and what she's been though. There's always two sides to a story. P.S.S. Don't post flamebaits. You know better. P.S.S.S. That was tiring to write. Small posts are nice. Last edited by Hiro Hayase; 2011-06-09 at 18:38. |
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Flamebait? Oh nonono, I simply wanted to learn if I've been missing out on something regarding my analysis on Kinji and Reki, it never hurts to learn
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And this is not the first time Kinji intentionally struck back at Aria, he's been hitting her below the belt since vol 1 and vol 2. Quote:
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Kinji on the other hand, I had given him six volumes already; he had two chances to let Aria go, and now that he's got her back, he suddenly doesn't want her? Talk about a heartbreaker and woman player.
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I like his interaction more with the none harem girls than with the harem girls. His more friendly with Jeanne that's why she's the best second is Reki. Despite being a part of his harem. Kinji treasures that girl like she's a national treasure because she doesn't give him much trouble except for a 24/7 sniping problem super stalker. Riko I think could be the best for him. If she is more honest about her feelings. I just like her the best!!!! Normal Riko is the best . Flirtatious Riko is the best playmate and Hysteria Riko is your doomsday Though I think a dere Riko will meltdown even an idiot
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Whenever Kinji and Aria get into an argument, Kinji always starts remembering the times when Aria wronged and becomes even more enraged, it eventually reaches a boiling point and the fallout happens. Quote:
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That fallout situation could have easily been avoided, if Aria wasn't as prideful and more honest about her feelings. Although Kinji is stubborn too, but you can't blame it all on him. If he goes with Aria, then his goal of a normal life would be annulled permanently. Majority of people would hate having guns or swords pointed to their throats on daily basis, so I can't blame Kinji if he wants to stay where he is lol. Besides Kinji can't speak English, so how is he supposed to go with Aria? Aria speaks about 14 different languages. People can't change that easily. P.S. It's nice seeing an opposing viewpoint every once in awhile. Last edited by Hiro Hayase; 2011-06-09 at 21:41. |
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Would he freaking make up his mind?! Is this how he's going to be everytime he gets into a stressful situation?! How many times is he going to play with her?!
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Didnt he say it in the special hysteria mode? does that even count as his true feeling?
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His whole life story thus far seems to be grudgingly living out a life full of regrets then- regret becoming a butei, regret becoming Aria's partner etc. Now I can understand being pissed at someone for being bossy, we've all been there; You called them an idiot, you put salt in her coffee, switch out her peach buns for melon bread! You don't just crank the dial up to 11 then to hit them when they're already feeling down! Quote:
Yes, it's beyond obvious that Kinji has feelings for Aria; all the instant HSS mode gave that away But like I've said, Kinji's only cares that he himself doesn't get hurt from Aria leaving him, that little punk doesn't care if Aria gets hurt from his actions. Quote:
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But what I can't stand is Kinji throwing away the words he had said to her, all those sweet promises he had made, because he was afraid of getting hurt? That don't make no sense. Well, I feel REALLY STRONGLY about this
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And no, even when Aria hit her first, that was a legal fight- plus it was unarmed, Aria didn't expect Reki to not defend herself and she certainly wasn't going to kill her. But in response, Reki pulls out a bayonet and tried to take Aria's head off Quote:
Whether his words were under the influence... Doesn't matter, even if he had used less flowery words, it would mean the same thing.
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Hi! I'm a newcomer in this forum and a new reader of this series and I must say I'm hooked. There may be nothing original plot-wise or character-wise, but this particular combination just interests me immensely. So I'd like to offer my gratitude here for the translators in Baka-Tsuki for translating this series. Thank you very much!
And now, I'd like to contribute my pet theories and interpretations regarding some of events in the novels. First, regarding the issue of the name of Koko/Cao Cao, it was mentioned by the author that the former was supposed to be the original pronunciation of 曹操 back in the times of the Three Kingdoms (3rd century AD). Based on what I can gather about historical Chinese (shamelessly ripped off from Wikipedia ) and my meagre knowledge on linguistics, there is some basis to the author's assertion. However, that is only because some of the j/q sounds in Mandarin Chinese are descended from g/k and z/c sounds in pinyin. In other words, the "k" in Koko and the "c" in Cao Cao are related, but not because the former gave rise to the latter. And considering how both the "k" and "c" exist in Old Chinese (according to the consensus anyway), it is unlikely that the author's assertion is correct in this case, which is a shame. Second, regarding the questions on why Reki uses a Dragunov SVD instead of a more effective bolt-action rifle such as the Remington 700 that Koko uses, I'd like to offer a theory. Perhaps Reki is interested in the versatility the Dragunov offers. Strictly speaking, the Dragunov was not designed purely for sniping purposes but is rather meant for designated marksmen. That is why it is gas-operated unlike the more conventional bolt-action for sniper rifles (which meant that Reki can fire more rapidly, since she does not need to manually pull back the bolt after each shot). That is also why it can be equipped with a bayonet, which is again unusual for conventional sniper rifles. Considering how Reki's bayonet became a plot point in the novels, I guess the author assigned that weapon to her on purpose. The only thing that boggles me is her ability to shoot 2 km with her Dragunov, since it was supposed to have only a maximum range of up to 1.3 km. Maybe her Dragunov was a modified one? Finally, I have a question for the translators. Back in Volume 5 when Sherlock Holmes mentioned about the "Scarlet Research", I wonder whether is it written as 緋色の研究 in the original Japanese? Because if that is so, then it will be a direct reference to the title of the first Sherlock Holmes novel A Study in Scarlet which I believe is translated into Japanese as 緋色の研究. Last edited by CrowKenobi; 2011-06-09 at 23:38. |
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Seriously though, has they mentioned the name of the irokane of the Hotogi? I dont remember seeing it.
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Secondly, that fight was supposed to be unarmed, Aria didn't fight with the intention to kill. It's like you're having a wrestle with your siblings on the bed and he sudden pulls out a shiv
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When your extremely angry at another person, you are not thinking at all. Anger is an emotion that just consumes you with rage, until you burn out. Majority of people who lash out at other people when angry are regretful when they calm down. That's basically what Kinji was. Quote:
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The [Wind] said to be on friendly terms with Kinji and produce offspring's. Reki did say that Kinji was stronger than her if he was serious, I do not doubt her intelligence since she's been stalking Kinji for over a year without Aria in the picture. Reki's liking for Kinji did not happen in a day. Your assessment of Reki is very similar to Kinji's. Re-read volume 6, I'm sure you will find the similarity. Quote:
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@Cosmic Eagle I agree, the Irokane seem to have the power to taint people, its almost like they are the source of corruption and evil. Last edited by Hiro Hayase; 2011-06-09 at 23:44. |
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We do not know how Aria and Reki interact with each other. Saying Aria treats her well ot they go to shop, eat, play, is just a theory.
Aria thinks of Reki as a friend because her abilities are enough to isolate her. And Reki has abilities that match Aria so in that sense she feels close to Reki. "The Wind" said Arias is danger for Kinji. What do you do in this case, you drive the danger away. If that isnt enough this means the problem has to be taken care. And for Reki it means a definitive end. We do not know in which moment Reki felt close to Kinji but we do Know that this could have been before the novel started. Besides that a person treats you well doesnt mean I will love this person. Sometimes there are pheromones, Status and all kinds of stuff that causes chances for love to bloom. Kinji hasnt broke any promise that he has made, (except in vol 2 when he was a jerk). Let me remind you a night before he was going to tell Aria about HSS before being interrupted by Reki. Kinji is afraid of a lot of things, and to just simply forget that fear isnt simple. since the beggining he said Until we end with EU and im going to transfer as soon as possible. He was in the verge of dead before. In the train they dont talk about him they talk about Histeria Kinji. And he doesnt identify himself with his Histeria self. |
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Even if Reki never considers Aria as a friend, to point her weapon at her so easily at someone who had treated her kindly... I would be careful around her, treating her friendly won't promise you safety. Quote:
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Point is- He had definitely said it, he had definitely promised to be her partner till the end of this year. Quote:
"W-W-W-W-W-What?! I don't c-c-c-care about Aria! Don't, don't say rubbish! I, I-I-I-I, don't care about something like Aria! T-T-T-The kind of things like Aria--it's simply wasting time! I didn't! I didn't even think about it! I've never looked forward to it, and never looked for it! I don't even look forward to it! Hontoni Hontoni Honto-!! "
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1. Aria resorted to violence first? Reki was the one that slapped her. 2. And Reki could like- You know, DON'T FIGHT? Aria had no idea that she doesn't have any unarmed skills so after her first hit she completely stopped. Reki on the other hand decided to continue with a weapon. Quote:
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