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2011-10-10, 01:06 | Link #25023 |
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Would a purely financial motive be thinkable at all?
The cash card covered EVERYONE'S immediate expenses, even if Krauss could greedily take the highest portion of the gold, they STILL would have got enough to screw over their lives, and the narration seemed to imply that Krauss COULD convert at least a worthwhile amount of the gold(not sure if that was Ange saying it), why the hell would ANYONE kill under these circumstances? I mean, if you were offered 10 million dollars and your idiot brother was offered 30 million, would you really risk murder to gain 40 million when there are multiple witnesses? Would you really blow up your entire family just to get the rest of the cash when 10 million could arguably serve any normal person quite well? Maybe I'm just too ignorant over how dumb people could become when faced with a pile of gold that will most likely never be converted for the realistic amount it's worth. |
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The presence of he winchesters really wasn't helping matters because even though the scene shied away from it, somebody had to grab one first, and I imagine that's when shit got real in that argument. |
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2011-10-10, 01:51 | Link #25025 | |
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2011-10-10, 11:42 | Link #25027 | |
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Nobody seems to have indicated that they need more money than an equitable division could bring, or that they have so much need for large amounts of money for future projects (George mentions wanting to make it on his own but he probably doesn't mean "by murdering my family and stealing their money," and besides he could get some of the gold for his venture if he asked his parents easy enough). So on the surface everything seems pretty fair. About the only other way to go about it is if you believe, as Ryukishi claims in the ep7 Tea Party, that gold just makes people greedy and stupid. If that's his explanation, I think that's a pretty short shrift to the parents after multiple episodes showing off the ways they could be as virtuous as they are sinful.
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2011-10-10, 13:14 | Link #25028 |
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Well, someone did it. I tend to think that it was an escalation from all the adults' various aggressive personalities. It probably started with an accident, like in the episode 7 Tea Party. Then people got angry and scarred and started doing stupid and brutal things they normally wouldn't do... and things just got more and more out of control until even the kids and servants got involved.
I wonder, though, how the winchesters got involved in the first place. I think the idea of Yasu just giving them a bunch of loaded guns along with the gold is pretty ridiculous. I do like AT's George theory, too. |
2011-10-10, 13:46 | Link #25029 |
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Well, look at it this way: The servants probably don't care (it's not like it's their gold and they'll probably get bought off to shut their mouths about it, so I imagine Gohda's got no problem with it and the others are pretty much already invested in it). The adults don't seem to initially have any problem with splitting it. Yasu doesn't care (if she did, why would she let them find it?).
Who does that leave out of the loop? The kids, basically. Of the kids, would Maria care? Probably not. Would Battler, Jessica, or George? I don't know. Jessica probably not. Battler and George... maybe? But even then, what's to stop them from just asking for some of the money from their own parents? And again, there's the problem of the gold blowing up. If you want all the money, what's the point of destroying most of it? If the goal is to preserve the gold the last thing you want to do is murder enough people that attention will be drawn to the big pile of illegal gold. Alternately, you'd want to kill everybody and dispose of their bodies somehow, hide the epitaph solution and route to the gold, and just ride it out until the heat's off you and you can go back and get it. Why take the risks associated with such a spectacular act, if money was the motive?
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2011-10-10, 14:24 | Link #25030 |
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However, of those kids, GEORGE has an additional motive.
Jessica? She's a hot chick. Even if she lost Kanon she could always bag another cute emo boy. Battler? He's so overly nice that he'd probably be willing to share Yasu or something, or even go "No, I abandoned you for six years, I don't deserve you, go to one of the others." Maria? She's nine, dude. George? Well, Shannon is his first girlfriend, and there is no way a telephone pole like him is ever going to bag another bodacious bombastic babe. He'd kill to keep her. And if he finds out she's actually a flatchested dickgirl who's been cheating on him? Yea, I can see him flipping the fuck out.
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2011-10-10, 15:59 | Link #25033 |
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George is fat, a man of his girth wouldn't be able to run around the mansion killing everyone in rapid succession.
Also in the fantasy scenes george span around like a top throwing kicks unimpeded by his fat and Jessica boxed like she didn't have any respiratory problems at all. Anyways, neither of these would have a reason to allow the clock to strike midnight unless they didnt know about the explosives or if they suddenly had an incomprehensible plan like Kyrie did in EP7. In fact, given Will's response in the final answers, not even Yasutrice wanted the clock to hit 12. So, has there been a character that openly wished for this to happen? |
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2011-10-10, 16:42 | Link #25035 |
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Like they know its going to blow up and they dont want it to blow up and they try their hardest to stop if from blowing up? Some sort of drama about everyone trying to cut the right cable at the right time or the whole island blows up? I'd pay good money to read that Umineko episode.
I meant everyone other than Yasu, she would always have the "I know everyone will solve it before time runs out because I believe in th*BOOM*". Outside of that, could you give a reason why anyone else would let the clock run out if they knew the consequences of it? |
2011-10-10, 16:49 | Link #25036 |
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Well, there's the 'destroying evidence for murders' thing, I guess. But I think the most logical conclusion is someone using the bomb to take the killer with them. Why would the killer draw suspicion and go around killing people and starting a panic when they can blow everyone up with no one being on to it?
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2011-10-10, 17:15 | Link #25038 |
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Implying Jessica could secure a gun to shoot said people.
If there was a table of guns, I highly doubt the adults would just be like ''Oh what's the harm if Maria were to go near one and think it's a magical staff?'' But now that I think of it, Kinzo must have an assload of guns, in EP 5 there was multiple Winchesters, and then there's a secret stash of them in the VIP room? |
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2011-10-10, 21:24 | Link #25040 | |
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Ever wonder why Kyrie chose to kill Jessica in episode 7's tea party instead of George? I bet it went something like this: Rudolf: So dear we going to kill George next? Kyrie: You do it! I don't want to have to carry that guy! Even Kyrie fears the monstrous weight of George...! |
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