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2012-10-08, 13:29 | Link #3423 | |
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On the bright side, this makes me even more interested in seeing what the next Gundam TV series will look like as a response to AGE's low rating, whether they will try something new again or take a more conservative approach. |
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2012-10-08, 13:33 | Link #3424 |
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Was the next show conservative or not, that doesn't help if story and characters aren't deep enough. AGE's biggest problem wasn't the idea it was the way it was executed. It's was too mainstream and too light for hardcore fans.
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2012-10-08, 13:35 | Link #3425 |
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Gundam can't keep relying on hardcore fans though, it'll wither if they do--they'll need to get new fans somewhere if they want to keep using the name to make money. Add in how damn unpleasable the fanbase has gotten, it's a wonder that SEED did as well as it did in the first place, and little wonder why AGE didn't.
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2012-10-08, 13:53 | Link #3429 |
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Appealing to the lowest common denominator doesn't necessarily generate mainstream success. Focus on one demographic from a creative standpoint and let the marketing bring in other audiences instead of deliberately trying to appeal to everybody with the show at the same time and sacrificing quality, which turns everybody off.
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2012-10-08, 16:46 | Link #3432 | |
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I mean how did I find Gundam? I didn’t start off a hardcore until I watch a couple of series, series that existed way before my interest level was created…You just gotta do something good and the people will come… In all seriousness we’ve had 4 straight AU’s in a row with 1 being a smash (SEED), 1 being a critical and commercial moderate hit (GundamOO) and the other 2 falling somewhere between botched open-heart surgery on film and calamitous trainwreck (Granted GSD’s commercial success made the critical problems more acceptable than AGE which has been panned critically and commercially)…So with this I say maybe IT IS TIME to cater to the hardcores, and make something that’s truly in the mole of UC Gundam (That doesn't take 5 years to air like Unicorn ><) and bet your chips on that? Make it more stylish or whatever, aslong as the script and character developments are on-point I think you got a chance at aleast more interest than OO which was basically an above bar show… UC has a lot of gaps and good content that can be leveled off (Hello Gaia Gear^^)…10 years ago it would have been true to say they’re exhausting UC, but now you’ve pretty much destroyed all of the universes from the AU worlds with no room to expand them based on how Bandai went about closing these tales. UC, despite the throat-choking from each side, is a proven winner, and maybe it’s time to give those who’ve stuck with and cherished Gundam the most what they want….Real recognize Real... Personally I’d love to see S. Watanabe (Cowboy Bebop, SamCham), do a Gundam series with the same artistic bend found in the recent Mina Fujiko Lupin series…Something that can capture new and old, but whatever, it’s time to stop treating the UC as the bastard child after giving birth to atleast 2 worthless kids…It’s funny, but because they can’t escape the tropes of the UC, it is the AU’s that are ironically becoming stale in it’s representation of Gundam (Certainly in 3 of the 4 shows)…
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2012-10-08, 17:23 | Link #3433 | ||
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2012-10-08, 22:43 | Link #3434 | |
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Still, I somewhat feel sorry that Hino was kinda restricted from telling his story. I bet it’ll be more fun to see him go “crazier” with AGE than what we have now. From that interview above, I think Hino is a smart person who actually know all the flaws of AGE that he created. If I were Sunrise/Bandai, I would give him total freedom to tell his own story as long as there’s a Gundam in it. Restricting the story to follow certain tropes of previous Gundam series is really ridiculous. If their target was to create new fans, they need to give them something new and fresh (other than the 3 Gen gimmick), not the same Gundam-cliches again and again.
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2012-10-08, 23:06 | Link #3435 | |
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2012-10-08, 23:07 | Link #3436 | |
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Age (as a premise atleast) couldn't be that expansion, so maybe expand on what you've neglected a bit to attract new viewers if 4 straight AU's didn't, hasn't, ultimately lead there...
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2012-10-08, 23:11 | Link #3437 | |
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And yes, I agree that clichés don't matter. After all, new viewers wouldn't know they're Gundam clichés. It's the old fans who complain about clichés. |
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2012-10-08, 23:48 | Link #3438 | |
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2012-10-08, 23:54 | Link #3439 | ||
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2012-10-09, 00:03 | Link #3440 |
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Unicorn aside UC hasn't exactly attracted viewers, TAG and Victory had abysmal sales and ratings, intended or otherwise. Destiny, SEED, 00, 00pt2, Wing where much bigger hit series than those 2. G, X and AGE weren't, the numbers still favor the AU stuff, ignoring Unicorn of course.Origin is on the way for the hardcore anyway, maybe they'll give the next Gundam Series to Goro, he did give Sunrise Code Geass after all! Oh wait they changed his second half on him and he's so pissed he went off to make a cosplay anime for some no name company...
Lets see Sunrise got Seiji because they wanted FMA ratings, they got Hino because they wanted Inzuma Eleven multimedia performance, maybe they can give the next Gundam series to whoever is producing Capcom's Monster Hunter series, sounds good. SEED and Destiny (which outsold SEED easily) appealed to new fans as well as fujoshis. It certainly wasn't aimed at the hardcore crowd, why do you think the first 20 episodes of SEED was basically MSG 2.0. |
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