(CR) Ameku Takao's Detective Karte

[EroKing]

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[Kanon]

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

Chest Pain: Easy to fake. I've also seen a mystery where they managed to fake their pulse having stropped by holding their wrist for a while or something. - That being said it wouldn't go past medical equipment, which Gyaru Sensei didn't use.

The trick you're probably thinking of is to squeeze a ball under your armpit, which stops the pulse on that arm. But that obviously only works if the pulse is taken on the wrist, Mai did it on his neck. There's no way to fake that as far as I'm aware. The kid's heart stopped.

Despite her self-proclaimed genius, Takao doesn't always figure everything out right away. That's especially true since she didn't even bother examining the kid. She half-assed it and the kid is paying the price.

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

So what do you think would an electric shock with enough power to restart a heart do to someone with heart disease who is just pretending...?

You don't shock a flatline, that's not a thing.

[AC-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

You don't shock a flatline, that's not a thing.

He didn't flatline though.
I looked this up to be sure - Flatlining and having no pulse isn't the same though.

I mentioned it because I think she called one for one with that abbreviation. That being said, I might have gotten the term wrong.
In any event, should he somehow fake it, the entire CPR procedure is still rather detrimental. And I bet at least some of their issues were faked.

Literally the arc right before this one was about a nurse poisoning someone - Likelyhood of them doing it again is rather low.
So unless they actually poison themselves, the medical staff would be the only ones with opportunity and means.

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

He didn't flatline though.
I looked this up to be sure - Flatlining and having no pulse isn't the same though.

Either way, my point is that electric shocks don't restart stopped hearts. They stop hearts, hopefully so they can restart with a better rhythm. They're the "have you tried turning it off and on again?" of heart attacks.

[Yu Ominae]

Watching the 8th episode. All I can say that it's interesting to see Takao run...

[AC-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

Either way, my point is that electric shocks don't restart stopped hearts. They stop hearts, hopefully so they can restart with a better rhythm. They're the "have you tried turning it off and on again?" of heart attacks.

And my point was that it's not healthy for the recipient when it's used while everything is fine. - I don't see the contradiction here.

In any event, I checked the term and she apparently asked for an automated one, so should he fake it after all, it the machine should be able to pick it up. Only leaves the pressure from the CPR as potential damage.

And if the timing is always the same, them faking it is far more likely than someone poisoning them. Having a story were a nurse is poisoning someone twice in a row would be a bit surprising.

[FlareKnight]

Solid episode. There were few surprises here. The kids being responsible for the angel sightings and their reasoning was expected. They were brats, but they weren't evil. Fair enough that they wanted to do something in atonement. Especially since it was obvious that Kenta didn't have long left.

Though I didn't think the kids were drugging themselves...that's a bit of a wild tactic to take!

The mystery set aside, I think they handled Kenta's death with as much dignity as they could. Takao finally picked herself up and helped a dying kid have a bit of peace in his last days. Obviously a hard one for her since there was no fixing that situation. But at least she didn't have to live with the regret of not going to see him.

[Yu Ominae]

Ameku MD's having the cast announced for a LA show.

[scififan]

It's strange that Japanese hospital having nurses in charge of drugs, not pharmacists. When the nurses are short of hands, the nurse station and the drug storage shelves are left unsupervised.

Takao's TV drama is as expected, since the same author's other novels have been made into TV drama already. Takao novel is the only one getting the anime adaption. There will be a special.

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[serenade_beta]

So the kids were able to get all of the medicine needed to drug themselves without anyone realizing it
And they felt so bad about what they did that they went so far as to poison themselves?

Uh...huh. You sure you don't need to keep them in the hospital longer? Wrong hospital?

[grecefar]

Pretty sad chapter, it did hurt seeing kenta but at least takao was there to face him at the end with a smile and reading his favorite story.

cancer sucks badly man... even more when it's a kid.

[Kanon]

Kotori turning up the music when Takao started crying and then wishing her a Merry Christmas was really cold. Are we sure he's not the one with autism?

This arc did a great job humanizing Takao. Until now, she was little more than a gremlin who she did as she pleased.

[Shadow5YA]

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

He didn't flatline though.
I looked this up to be sure - Flatlining and having no pulse isn't the same though.

They aren't exactly the same, but defribrillators don't work on someone with cardiac arrest either.

[FlareKnight]

Originally Posted by Kanon

Kotori turning up the music when Takao started crying and then wishing her a Merry Christmas was really cold. Are we sure he's not the one with autism?

This arc did a great job humanizing Takao. Until now, she was little more than a gremlin who she did as she pleased.

Yeah, that was certainly a bit cold. Had a "you're a doctor so suck it up and get used to patients dying" kind of vibe.

[AC-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

They aren't exactly the same, but defribrillators don't work on someone with cardiac arrest either.

My point is that she asked for one, not that it was needed. Which is arguable, as the one she called one for won't give off a shock when it isn't necessary to begin with.

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To be fair to the hospital. There are several hospitals in Austria where getting into the nurse rooms looks as if it is piss easy too with all the blind angles there, especially during the evening shifts. - That being said, I doubt they actually store medication in there, bandages, syringes and so on though? Yep., door is open wide enough for that to be clearly visible.

I kinda want Legal Mindset to review this now, and hear whether Takao is liable for not stopping it.

[Anh_Minh]

So the gal doctor didn't know about arrhythmia and asked for an electroshock machine?

[serenade_beta]

Wait wut, they missed ANOTHER week? The third time in 1-cour?
Sheesh, I'm surprised the guest characters still have VAs with this schedule/budget

[Yu Ominae]

Hearing of a 9.5 episode out there. Not sure on what it is.

[Jaden]

Originally Posted by scififan

It's strange that Japanese hospital having nurses in charge of drugs, not pharmacists. When the nurses are short of hands, the nurse station and the drug storage shelves are left unsupervised.

It's normal in many European countries too. I don't believe anyone keeps that stuff in an unlocked cabinet in a frickin pediatric ward though. Maybe it's because those are IV drugs in an ampule, and they wouldn't be that dangerous if swallowed, so what could go wrong..?

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

So the gal doctor didn't know about arrhythmia and asked for an electroshock machine?

AEDs check the electrocardiogram first. If the heart has stopped, it'll just play a recording like "No shockable rhytm, resume CPR" It's still standard procedure to set it up just in case.
BTW don't fake a cardiac arrest near any doctors. Especially that Kuma guy would probably break my ribs lol.