Zelda: Twilight Princess

[Demongod86]

Originally Posted by GuidoHunter_Toki

The ending was something I would expect from a Zelda game. I don't care much about the story anymore in Zelda games since they're somewhat predictable.

Exactly why Zelda would fall into my trash bin along with just about every other game ever created.

[NoSanninWa]

Originally Posted by Demongod86

Spoiler for ending:

Ehhh, G... is the default villain in every Zelda game...isn't that as much a spoiler as Link is the hero?

It is true, but it is possible that it will not be true someday. At least I hope someday we'll see a bit of variance.

Originally Posted by GuidoHunter_Toki

The ending was something I would expect from a Zelda game. I don't care much about the story anymore in Zelda games since they're somewhat predictable. I just play the games because they are just fun and filled with cool dungeons, weapons, and boss fights.

Ditto. But unfortunately Twilight Princess doesn't deliver as much on that front either. I'm only half-way through right now, but the challenges are so dull that I could finish this game while half-asleep. Quite frankly, I suck at difficult video game battles, but I haven't died even once.

Spoiler for Sand Dungeon:

I just beat the boss of the sand dungeon and he wasn't so much a boss as he was a mini-game. I took 4 points of damage in the entire fight. I don't know why I even bother to have a healing potion handy.

As for the puzzles, none of them slowed me down much either. I have not once been tempted, not even a little bit, to head over to gamefaqs.com. At least the dungeons are really cool. The water dungeon was absolutely beautiful and well laid out.

I miss the challenging battles and puzzles of Link to the Past, Ocarina of time or (my personal favorite) Majora's Mask. This is a very weak addition to the franchise.

[jedinat]

Originally Posted by NoSanninWa

Ditto. But unfortunately Twilight Princess doesn't deliver as much on that front either. I'm only half-way through right now, but the challenges are so dull that I could finish this game while half-asleep. Quite frankly, I suck at difficult video game battles, but I haven't died even once.

Spoiler for Sand Dungeon:

I just beat the boss of the sand dungeon and he wasn't so much a boss as he was a mini-game. I took 4 points of damage in the entire fight. I don't know why I even bother to have a healing potion handy.

As for the puzzles, none of them slowed me down much either. I have not once been tempted, not even a little bit, to head over to gamefaqs.com. At least the dungeons are really cool. The water dungeon was absolutely beautiful and well laid out.

I miss the challenging battles and puzzles of Link to the Past, Ocarina of time or (my personal favorite) Majora's Mask. This is a very weak addition to the franchise.

LoL, now that you mention it, not counting falling, I think I died like once... to one of the minibosses. Were the N64 games much harder? I was mostly writing off the difference as me being like 12 when I played those games. (I only ever finished OoT... I was prone to distraction ^^; )

It didn't really bother me anyways... I liked the light level of challenge... I mostly liked the Zelda games for the sense of adventure or discovery or w/e. I like seeing new places and getting new toys.

[fict_ticious]

Ehhh, game was fun while it lasted. I took my time with this one.
Anyways, not as epic as OOT (though the experience of the transition from 2d to 3d can never be duplicated ever again) but was certainly nice to look at. I braved the Cave of Ordeals, but was molested to death by the last three darknuts orz

[Potatochobit]

the n64 games were harder, especially majora's mask.

[cdtm]

Originally Posted by Wordplay

Still think that the Windwaker had the most anime'ish graphics, thanks to cel-shading, even though the rest of the game was rather boring. The style was similar to Zelda 3 and I wouldn't had minded if they had kept it.

Heh, I kind of felt OOT could be boring too, with the constant racing back and forth between areas... Link to the Past at least had constant enemies on every screen, keeping things from getting too dull, plus the gameplay was naturally faster paced..

Anyways, for completeness sake, here's Soul Calibur Link!

[cdtm]

Originally Posted by Radd

I have little doubt that the Wii will be the least powerful system, but specs can be misleading (remember when the Gamecube specs came out, and many gamers loudly announced that the specs proved it would be the weakest of the three systems?

They claimed it'd be weaker then the PS2, even? O_o

Although, for the record, a lot of cross platform games don't usually end up looking much better on the Cube then the PS2.. In some cases, like Fight Night Round 2, it could even look slightly worse (Muddy textures and stuff in that game)

Although, that could just be Nintendo getting shafted on dev quality.

[Corn]

I have TP and I think it's a major dissapointment.

OOT was awesome.


But this... god the story and gameplay just blows. I really hate twillight princess... N fanboys can defend it all they want, but I think its a waste of time. A rehash of all the other games. I hate it. besides that, Wii is cool.


I understand now why so many people rather are buying Wii Sports and Wii Play than Zelda in japan!

[Ending]

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Ending looks typical to me...Link wins, Ganondork loses because he didn't have any SHFFLing, wavedashing, edgecamping, or comboing skills, even though he's rated higher tier -.-...everything's back to normal, and Link is mute as always. The end.

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Actually, the ending did give out something new, after watching it on YouTube. Since Zelda was the "taken-for-granted" woman of Link and Midna promising to come back, perhaps the sequal will feature a happy-happy threesome.

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Well, okay; maybe not. Nintendo doesn't have the balls to do anything as creative as that.

[Demongod86]

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[quote]Ending looks typical to me...Link wins, Ganondork loses because he didn't have any SHFFLing, wavedashing, edgecamping, or comboing skills, even though he's rated higher tier -.-...everything's back to normal, and Link is mute as always. The end.

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Actually, the ending did give out something new, after watching it on YouTube. Since Zelda was the "taken-for-granted" woman of Link and Midna promising to come back, perhaps the sequal will feature a happy-happy threesome.

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Well, okay; maybe not. Nintendo doesn't have the brains to come up with a story anything as creative as that.

Fixed that for you .

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There was nothing to fix. My choise of words was correct.

[Benoit]

Although, for the record, a lot of cross platform games don't usually end up looking much better on the Cube then the PS2.. In some cases, like Fight Night Round 2, it could even look slightly worse (Muddy textures and stuff in that game)

Of course, since they didn't bother to optimise it for the GameCube. They just made a PS2 version, then made a shoddy port to the other platforms. A lot of multi-platform games are like that.

[mantidor]

Originally Posted by NoSanninWa

It is true, but it is possible that it will not be true someday. At least I hope someday we'll see a bit of variance.

Actually its not a standard

Spoiler:

All Zelda games alternatively use ganon, he's in the first but not in Zelda 2 (the game over screen doesn't count :P), in Link ot the past but not Link's awakening, in OoT but not in Majora's Mask, etc, etc. I think many fans were actually expecting him to NOT be in Twilight Princess, given that he is in the Wind Waker, it seemed the obvious choice, its also very apparent that he was crammed into TP just to make the game an OoT^2.

As I knew from the beginning, what hurted the game was the port to the wii, Nintendo promised the last traditional Zelda game, taking away focus from that and putting it into a not so great remote implementation, given the very traditional structure of the game, did nothing good for the end product. But I really enjoyed the game, I loved all the new things they managed to put in, and Midna is like the best game character ever, but I can't help to be sad that if Nintendo had leave it as a pure GC game we would have a much better game.

[FatPianoBoy]

Originally Posted by mantidor

Actually its not a standard
if Nintendo had leave it as a pure GC game we would have a much better game.

So just play the GC version. That's why they made two different versions, you know.
Personally, I loved the extra functionality the Wiimote offered. I've played both versions, and it was a much more immersive (not to mention intuitive) experience on the Wii. But, to each his own.

[mantidor]

I think you didn't read my post at all.

[FatPianoBoy]

Originally Posted by mantidor

I think you didn't read my post at all.

I read the whole thing. You wish that they hadn't ported it to the Wii because Nintendo promised that it would be "the last traditional Zelda game." If that's the case, why not just play it "traditionally" on the GC? Since you have this option, I really can't see what the issue is.

[mantidor]

I did get the GC version, my point is not the game's versions but the game's development time and history, what I would have prefered was that the time used in the development of wii controls to be rather used in refining the last two dungeons for instance. It's a good game, I have no doubt about it, but it would have been better if Nintendo would had only focused in the GC, or the wii, but not in both at the same time.

[FatPianoBoy]

Ah, I see what mean now.
Obviously Nintendo wanted to boost Wii sales. Frankly, I'm surprised they went ahead and released the GC version.
I do agree with the sentiments on the last two dungeons. Even though they didn't blow my mind like the others, they were still good. Possibly their only true shortcoming is having to follow the best dungeons to ever grace a Zelda game. If they'd been the first dungeons, we'd probably be focusing on them much less. That this would have been "fixed" had Nintendo focused on only one system, though, I doubt. All that was really done differently in the Wii version was a different control scheme and a mirrored world, which isn't that major of an overhaul. The long wait was due to Nintendo wanting the Wii version to launch first for obvious reasons. They were probably sitting on the finished product for several months.

[Angelic Cross]

Originally Posted by Demongod86

Spoiler for ending:

Ehhh, G... is the default villain in every Zelda game...isn't that as much a spoiler as Link is the hero?

*whaps Demongod upside the head* WRONG!

Spoiler for Zelda final boses:

Legend of Zelda = Ganon
Adventure of Link = Shadow/Dark Link
Link to the Past = Ganon
Link's Awakening = the Nightmares
Ocarina of Time = Ganon
Majora's Mask = Majora's Mask
Oracle games = (first game, depends on which you play first) Onox, General of Darkness or Veran, the Sorceress of Shadow.
(password game) Ganon, revived by Kouma and Kotake (aka Twinrova) but since Ganon is basically revived without his mind (basically he's just an empty shadow), I guess you can say the real mastermind behind all the evil in the Oracle games are Twinrova.
Four Swords (the multiplayer of the GBA version of LttP, basically a separate story) = Vaati
Wind Waker = Ganondorf
Four Swords Adventure = Ganon
The Minish Cap = Vaati
Twilight Princess = Ganon
Phantom Hourglass = Eiji Aonuma has stated Ganon isn't likely to appear here and judging from the pattern of direct sequels to Zelda games, I happen to agree.

So of the 13 released Zelda games, Ganon is the final boss in only 7 of them. So in almost half of the games the final villain is always someone else.

[gummybear]

this some how explain a lot of land settings in TP:

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NVM, I just unproved myself of this theory

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trying to light the 4 light to open the gate in the final castle is pissing me off, they kept going out been at it for over an hour