Kami nomi/TWGOK II - Episode 4 Discussion / Poll

[Pellissier]

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[Midonin]

Spoiler for Kaminomi II-IV - I Want to Shine!:

Interesting, the similar themes being noted this season. Someone who is a newcomer and behaves as such, yet is pretty self-sufficient, and one who acts experienced but isn't, and the newcomer must help them by telling the "experienced" person that they really did help them after all, despite the experienced one going crazy.

I could either be talking about Haqua or Jiromaru. Despite their shows existing on mostly opposite ends of the spectrum, when pared down, their situations bear out some similarities. Both involve Kanae Itou too. Yet, the reception to Haqua seems much more positive. Strange.

A good episode, especially with Keima's complete nonchalance throughout the whole ordeal. If it isn't VN-related, it may as well not exist to him. And that's what makes him comedy gold.

[LKK]

An ultimately disappointing episode for me. Not enough Keima. Although I did like

Spoiler:

his innocent bystander act getting trampled on.
Literally.
Twice no less!

[Kopi]

Spoiler for Epi 4:

So Elsie get to shine this episode along with Haqua while Keima remains an innocent bystander. I got something to complain and that's the loose soul doesn't look menacing at all being a fluffy white cloud thus reducing the sense of emergency..

[mod edit: removed spoilers]

Fanservice ending shot ftw

[Seihai]

^better delete that spoiler before a mod gets to it.

Keima didn't do much this time, can't be helped. That the loose soul doesn't look terrifying can't be helped either because it was the same in the manga, guess that they could have changed it though... loose souls don't all look the same so there might be better ones in the future.

Haven't watched it yet but can't wait to. Where's my overdosis of Elsie?!

[mtarzaim]

At least we've got plenty of chibis this time.
Lots of avatar material.

They could have made the fight more fast spaced, with better aerial dodging and possessed students throwing tiles to the girls.
Missed opportunity.

Keima didn't do much this episode, but it was a "Elsie centered" story. And he isn't the brawler type anyway.

Next arc should be my favorite too with my favorite girl (beside Shiori). Let's see how they will visually handle the cockroach curse...

If it's not in the good old Saint Seiya fashion, I will be utterly disappointed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nk2vJlZ-qug

[Seihai]

I still liked it... but it was worse than I expected. The loose soul looks terrifying enough to me, but it's just that it does nothing at all. The possessed students also don't do a lot. I don't understand why the students are sandwich zombies while Haqua can freely move around and still express herself.

Now that we're in anime territory with Haqua I also realize how useless Haqua's scythe actually is, though the raiment gains plus points instead.

The pace feels even slower than usual despite the fact that Haqua still only got 2 episodes. This is the point where I think it would have been good to include skipped parts (or that chapter for the second half...! It's so good, too...) in it to have more content and speed things up. I assume that couldn't be done due to bad arrangement possibilities of the episodes or something.

Plus points for:
-Elsie with hair down (you're not alone, guys!)
-upset Elsie who draws a fire truck on the ground
-Keima who plays dead twice, and gets stepped on twice

7/10; it's because it could have been one of the best episodes that it was a bigger disappointment since it didn't turn out to be that good. I think this is one of the episodes where I really feel the direction isn't the best.

[grey_moon]

Really love this show!!!

I did want to see more Kami-sama goodness, but in his greatness I guess he had to let Elsie be the one to resolve Haqua's issue this time.

Always lots of great moments in the show, Elsie's fire engine fetish is very cute, especially when teamed with jealousy... Is she jealous? Can someone like Elsie be jealous?

[Seihai]

I don't know if jealousy is an automatic result but it's more that Elsie thinks that Keima is simply very mean towards her compared to other people. She doesn't dislike how he treats others, she dislikes how he treats her. A comparison ought to be there for her to actually get angrier than usual like in the Haqua arc, but jealousy? I'm not so sure. If it's really jealousy then it's still a very harmless and innocent one.

[SilverSyko]

I almost shed manly tears. ALMOST. I'm so glad that this series can get a sad emotional response out of me like that. Bravo!

Elsie and Hakua took the lead this episode considering there's not much Keima could do in a situation like this. Lol at him using every bit of free time he can scrape up to play VN's.

As threatening as the escaped spirit looked in this episode, as Vanish mentioned it didn't really do a whole lot, but then again this isn't an action anime so I'll keep my complaints about that to a minimum.

I'm guessing they're gonna squeeze Hakua into the future episodes somehow, even though in the manga she doesn't appear again for a few arcs.

[Riga92]

This episode felt stretched out, and the melodrama felt a little too forced, but other than that, it was a good episode. I loved Keima's innocent bystander act, he got stepped on twice! And we got some background on Haqua which is always good. I hope she makes more appearances throughout the anime

[Lange Neus]

Hehe. Elsie was wearing a schoolgirl uniform. I chuckled.

[Malkuth]

Haqua... finally a tsundere that balances the two sides of the archtype, I guess she'll be a regular from now, I mean Elsie is cute and stuff, but Haqua just blow the meter.

And by the way, what's up with all the Keima fans? I find him rather blant and boring.

[Seihai]

Originally Posted by Malkuth

And by the way, what's up with all the Keima fans? I find him rather blant and boring.

Let's see...:
-intelligent
-good looks
-can win every girl for him if he needs to (at least so far) without creating a harem(!)
-isn't dense in an idiotic sense but rather he chooses to be the way he is
-etc.?

If you mean he is blant and boring in the sense that he is too perfect then I can tell you that he isn't perfect at all. People like him because he's cool as that, and very unlike other male characters. I mean, at least I wouldn't know a similar male mc.

[Lange Neus]

Originally Posted by Vanish

Let's see...:
-intelligent
-good looks
-can win every girl for him if he needs to (at least so far) without creating a harem(!)
-isn't dense in an idiotic sense but rather he chooses to be the way he is
-etc.?

If you mean he is blant and boring in the sense that he is too perfect then I can tell you that he isn't perfect at all. People like him because he's cool as that, and very unlike other male characters. I mean, at least I wouldn't know a similar male mc.

They're abbundant, in fact, but you'd have to look outside of the seinen school love comedy genre. Or whatever you would classify kaminomi as.

[Malkuth]

LangeNeus covered me, except for "can win every girl for him if he needs to"

The only girls he conquers not only conveniently fit archetypes from his game (well otherwise the whole concept wouldn't be funny), but also does so with excessive and unrealistic information about them.

Anyway, it's not that his annoying or anything, just that every other character, especially his mom, Haqua, and Elsie are far more interesting to watch

[Texas84]

Well, I got caught up in the Haqua excitement but Elsie stole this episode.

[Lange Neus]

Originally Posted by Malkuth

LangeNeus covered me, except for "can win every girl for him if he needs to"

The only girls he conquers not only conveniently fit archetypes from his game (well otherwise the whole concept wouldn't be funny), but also does so with excessive and unrealistic information about them.

Anyway, it's not that his annoying or anything, just that every other character, especially his mom, Haqua, and Elsie are far more interesting to watch

Funny thing is, what you describe is exactly what makes him a paragon amongst otaku. He uses his fatal flaws (social depravity and a sickening obsession for dating sims) and turns it into a virtue by using them to save the day. It's a niche that's both utterly ridiculous and awesome at the same time.

[Malkuth]

I fail to see the awesomeness, but ridiculousness still works for me

[Lange Neus]

Originally Posted by Malkuth

I fail to see the awesomeness, but ridiculousness still works for me

It's because we Europeans don't care much for Japanese virtues