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Old 2017-11-02, 04:37   Link #181
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Is there any new info about Thoth? Or maybe info on him from old supplementary materials that people might have missed? I only know that hes a friend to Astea (or however you spell his name as) and is currently missing. What are the chance that he'll appear in new Steampunk VNs?
<President> of the West India Company.

Althotas=Toth=Hermes, the trinity that leads the evil organization WIC.

The trinity is composed by below three units:

Balthazar - the Shining Althotas=Toth=Hermes, who presides over WIC at the Holy City Rome.

Melchior - The Supreme Althotas=Toth=Hermes, who took the form of a little girl and wanders in the Desert City Valusia.

Caspar - The Fearsome Azathoth=Toth=Hermes, who is either on the moon or THE moon that's cackling down at the pitiful mortals right next to the Tick Tock Man.

And there is the possibility that Althotas=Toth=Herme maybe the same person as Toth=Hyubris=Rom, the founder of the Northern Empire.
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Old 2017-11-02, 05:29   Link #182
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Woo, never heard of that last part before. Thanks Shsmaster
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Old 2017-11-02, 15:37   Link #183
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This dude's truly the greatest mystery in the series yes. He's also the voice guiding Lily in her Dreamwalking adventure IIRC.
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Old 2017-11-02, 16:23   Link #184
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Yes, the Casper unit was believed to be the one who guided Lily in her dream.

And the white being that Lily encountered in Hypnos' bar was believed to be Toth=Hyubris=Rom.

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Old 2017-11-02, 20:48   Link #185
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And the white being that Lily encountered in Hypnos' bar was believed to be Toth=Hyubris=Rom.
That's news.... any reason why? Thought it was just some Elder God at most.
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Old 2017-11-02, 23:31   Link #186
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The way the white being is giving advise to Lily is somewhat reminiscent to Toth=Rom.

Of course, they are the other candidates on who that whit being.
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Old 2017-11-04, 01:05   Link #187
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Is the Trinity even supposed to be unified at least in goals? The Valusia girl and the Moon entity feel like M's AZTT but the WIC boss in Rome don't seem to be on the same page as the other two?


Also....is that Kerneter anime news legit? Does it seem like they are serious about it?
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Old 2017-11-04, 10:27   Link #188
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Is the Trinity even supposed to be unified at least in goals? The Valusia girl and the Moon entity feel like M's AZTT but the WIC boss in Rome don't seem to be on the same page as the other two?
So the Balthazar body is still in Rome? Why then, does WIC need acting leaders like Golden King or Professor if the main man can just issue orders? Is it something related to them being in charge of field work only?
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Old 2017-11-04, 11:33   Link #189
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So the Balthazar body is still in Rome? Why then, does WIC need acting leaders like Golden King or Professor if the main man can just issue orders? Is it something related to them being in charge of field work only?
Going by Valusia web novel, Balthazar is in Rome yes, while Kaspar is in the Moon. Melchior apparently has many guises and has no fixed location.

And also, I'm not totally certain on this but.....it doesn't look like Gold King actually works for Thoth. Meaning I don't think his plans actually are ordered by Thoth and that he acts for himself only.
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Old 2017-11-04, 17:54   Link #190
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The West India Company was created base on an organization lead by the Golden King.

And then Golden King and Toth eventually ran into each other and they end up in a big fight.
After that, Golden King decided to work for Toth and his organization was then transformed into the West India Company.

But Toth provided no leadership, no guidance, no direction, and no goals for the company.
Nor does Toth asked for any loyalty or unity from the company.
What the company has been doing is based on one of the few things that Toth has said to its underlings. The same words Melchior said to Hilde when she asked Toth for the permission to kill Da Vinci.
"You are allowed of anything."
That's Toth's stance on the company in a nutshell, also the stance of many super beings on the mortals.

Since Toth isn't doing much, Golden King has been the one that's really running the company, and Professor took over during the period that Golden King was missing.
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Old 2017-11-04, 21:14   Link #191
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That's Toth's stance on the company in a nutshell, also the stance of many super beings on the mortals.
There's others who have mortal interaction besides Thoth, Tick Tack Man, Nephren Ka and M?
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Old 2017-11-04, 21:56   Link #192
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Toth, M, Da Vinci are the ones that hold such a belief.

And we don't know about Nephran Ka yet.

But we now what Tick Tack Man's belief system is.
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Old 2017-11-04, 23:20   Link #193
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Da vinci doesn't count as a super being no?
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Old 2017-11-05, 00:25   Link #194
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Remeber he is good enough to chill out in Hypnos' bar.

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Old 2017-11-05, 00:28   Link #195
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Point..... Poor old Gold King isn't though despite his super powers.
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Old 2017-11-05, 00:31   Link #196
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Oh, the Golden King is.
He starts bitching whenever Nyarl enters the bar.
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Old 2017-11-05, 07:10   Link #197
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Speaking of Golden King... his multiple bodies/appearences are because he's a member of the Great Race of Yith right? His appearence in Gahkthun didn't match his description in the Valusia fandisk.
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Old 2017-11-05, 13:07   Link #198
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Yep, he has different bodies he use, and underlings he uses as terminals.
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Old 2017-11-06, 05:22   Link #199
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Terminals as in he possess them? Is there any further info on his other bodies though? Only new info that i got on him was his Yith race, but that was already brought up by trexalfa
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Old 2017-11-06, 08:04   Link #200
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Terminals as in he possess them? Is there any further info on his other bodies though? Only new info that i got on him was his Yith race, but that was already brought up by trexalfa
I think that should be what happens. But I'm only speaking from hearsay. IIRC one of Rose King's terminals offed K in 1909 or so.
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