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Old 2017-11-07, 12:31   Link #181
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Not that many differences here in how things happen during the arc, but as others have said this episode was cobbled together from couple scenes from the next arc and the Kuromaru date arc from waaaay into the future.

And, despite that, I can't say that it doesn't work. Probably a lot of it is down to the plot being allowed to SLOW THE FUCK down so that the spirit of the show can start shining through all of the plot acceleration.

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about Kuromaru being "weak" in girl form, it's probably because he's just not used to his body, imagine a truck driver being told into driving a F1
I don't see WHAT is there for him to get used to. His body is the same one he woke up in that morning. He just untied his chest, put on a dress and dye his hair. So there should be no appreciable major differences, and all of this is probably just in his head due to his gender issues.

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And bad Kuromaru!!! No no, being a girl or boy in your world doesn't necessarily translate to power . The top two or three overpowered characters in the series are female ya know , I won't spoil anything but just look at Yukihime
Someone REALLY REALLY needs to introduce him to 3A or even just to the accomplishments of Setsuna.
Hell some of the most powerful characters of the younger group that could run along with the old ones were female, and Kaede the normie is probably the poster child for that. The girl that just hung around the forests, could fight hard enough to match Fate himself for a time.
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Old 2017-11-07, 13:17   Link #182
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At least Kuromaru's situation is more interesting than I had initially thought. Not whether Kuromaru is one gender or another, but rather a choice hasn't been made yet. I do hope in general Kuromaru gives it more thought.

In agreement that it was just a mental issue. He's actively thinking of being one gender or another even though obviously his body shouldn't have changed at all while wearing that disguise. Being male or female shouldn't impact his decision or ability to protect Tota. After all some of the most powerful characters so far are female. It's just a question of which he wants to be for the majority of his immortal existence.

Tota was pretty sloppy with his guard to be sure. Pretty easily captured there and taken out of the equation. But hey, he is a kid and that will happen sometimes.
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Old 2017-11-07, 14:48   Link #183
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Setsuna had a similar issue where loving Konoka made her doubt her ability to protect her.
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Old 2017-11-07, 15:20   Link #184
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Well quite a bit of Negima character things have been recycled into these characters. Kuromaru is basically gender confused Setsuna. Kirie is well pretty much Chisame. etc.
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Old 2017-11-07, 17:53   Link #185
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Well quite a bit of Negima character things have been recycled into these characters. Kuromaru is basically gender confused Setsuna. Kirie is well pretty much Chisame. etc.
Of course, a number of Negima characters are pretty much recycled Love Hina characters to begin with (Asuna being a less bitchy Naru, Nodoka being a brave Shinobu).
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Old 2017-11-07, 20:00   Link #186
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Someone REALLY REALLY needs to introduce him to 3A or even just to the accomplishments of Setsuna.
Hell some of the most powerful characters of the younger group that could run along with the old ones were female, and Kaede the normie is probably the poster child for that. The girl that just hung around the forests, could fight hard enough to match Fate himself for a time.
Most of Ala Alba seems to have been greatly overshadowed by Negi through the passage of time. Negi grew so overpowered he rendered the rest of the team mostly useless as long as he's around (even the actual final battle against the Lifemaker basically cheated to avoid actually showing how Ala Alba made a real difference), and then, by the time of UQ Holder nobody but Eva seems to remember the names of Negi's companions, he's basically talked about as if he did everything on his own.

Besides, considering Kuromaru was raised in a small isolated village by prejudiced assholes who were fanatics of their own traditions and thought of the strongest woman around as a monster to be killed off, odds are he was pumped with all sorts of sexist misconceptions through his youth. It's a small miracle he's as nice as he is.
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Old 2017-11-08, 00:12   Link #187
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^ Negi's power is so great and his speed is so fast even the author cannot keep up with him and had to come up with a rushed ending to Negima. Clearly the UQ Holder manga and anime suffer from that now
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Old 2017-11-08, 02:19   Link #188
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^ Negi's power is so great and his speed is so fast even the author cannot keep up with him and had to come up with a rushed ending to Negima. Clearly the UQ Holder manga and anime suffer from that now
So what you arr saying is that due to his speed he reached a premature... culmination. Leaving all parties undersatisfied.
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Old 2017-11-08, 03:51   Link #189
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Old 2017-11-08, 03:55   Link #190
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^ Negi's power is so great and his speed is so fast even the author cannot keep up with him and had to come up with a rushed ending to Negima. Clearly the UQ Holder manga and anime suffer from that now
The UQ Holder manga has been fixing that recently.

Kuromaru's little "oh no, I'm not strong enough to fight alongside Tota as a female, I'd better choose to be a BIG STRONG MALE and live a MANLY life and have a great FRIENDSHIP BETWEEN MEN with Tota instead" arc was one of the most irritating parts of UQ Holder to me, given how utterly alien it is to that entire freaking universe. The place is utterly swamped with overpowered females, yet somehow Kuromaru thinks being female will prevent them from being able to fight.
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Old 2017-11-08, 07:15   Link #191
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Whatever happened to Episode 11?

Also, yeah, that sounds all rushed as heck.

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given how utterly alien it is to that entire freaking universe. The place is utterly swamped with overpowered females, yet somehow Kuromaru thinks being female will prevent them from being able to fight.
Again, he seems to have been raised in an isolated environment by conventional-minded arseholes who bossed him around in a paternalistic way. It'd make sense if they were sexist and raised him with that kind of ideas on females too.
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Old 2017-11-08, 10:13   Link #192
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Also Setsuna back in Negima had basically the same issue where she was thinking her "friendship" to ojou-sama was making her weak, despite that being stupid.
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Old 2017-11-08, 11:10   Link #193
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Only 12 eps ??? No wonder it is called Negima 2. The anime literally used Thunder God Vigor and rushes straight to the end.
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Old 2017-11-08, 11:32   Link #194
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This might as well be called UQ Holder: Highlights reel.
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Old 2017-11-08, 21:01   Link #195
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Also Setsuna back in Negima had basically the same issue where she was thinking her "friendship" to ojou-sama was making her weak, despite that being stupid.
Across three whole series, was Eishun the only Shinmei-ryuu who was not screwed up in the head?
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Old 2017-11-08, 22:06   Link #196
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Does Motoko's sister counts as screwed up in the head?
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Old 2017-11-08, 23:31   Link #197
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Besides, considering Kuromaru was raised in a small isolated village by prejudiced assholes who were fanatics of their own traditions and thought of the strongest woman around as a monster to be killed off, odds are he was pumped with all sorts of sexist misconceptions through his youth. It's a small miracle he's as nice as he is.
Well while they indeed think Eva is monster to be killed, they aren't fanatic enough actually try so for real.
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Old 2017-11-09, 02:12   Link #198
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Across three whole series, was Eishun the only Shinmei-ryuu who was not screwed up in the head?
Umm. If I remember correctly he was kinda INCREDIBLY sexually repressed or something. Enough that back when JACK was their enemy, during their first encounter with him, he disabled Eshun by just throwing Instant Babes Just Add Water at him. Once he was surrounded by them he was out of action.
Basically think Setsuna vis a vis Konoka. Incredibly horny/thisty about someone/something but their teachings prevent them from acting therefore deadlocking their brain at times.
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Old 2017-11-09, 20:23   Link #199
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Well while they indeed think Eva is monster to be killed, they aren't fanatic enough actually try so for real.
Well, even sending Kuromaru was kind of a conceptual (not actual) risk on itself. Had Eva been as actually bad as they thought, after killing Kuromaru she might have just tracked the way he took somehow directly to the village (and we know Eva is resourceful enough to pull this off would she ever have wanted to) and then gotten revenge on the fools who dispatched someone to try and kill her.

It seems to me they never thought Kuro had a chance at all, and that they were sending him to his demise because they thought so little of him, but I don't think they were planning too far ahead on what'd happen later if Eva took offense on it, either. Maybe they hoped to lure her into an ambush? Eva being weaker now seemed more or less common knowledge in the right circles if Mizuki-sensei (that's my pet name for him anyway) was any indication way back in Chapter 1. Perhaps the birdies thought they could beat her on their own grounds and with superior numbers, and perhaps some kind of strategy.
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Old 2017-11-13, 15:45   Link #200
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New episode. This episode adapts the manga from about middle of Ch 32 to she start of Ch 37 and hopping back and forth through manga has caused some wierdness to happen to how things turn out in anime.

All in all it's a fine episode IMO, and once you ignore the patching between the date and the events of this episode, it's a pretty good attempt at adaptation. Unfortunately the fight vs the shadow user guy is considerably shorter than in the manga.

It even shows us what happens when Kirie transports someone back in time with her. She seems not to actually transport the mass from the future. So there are no two Toutas when they go back. Instead she seems to snatch the past Touta, change his location to close by to her bonfire, and override his memories since he dissapears on Kuromaru.

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