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Old 2016-09-03, 23:48   Link #261
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So uh
Erina's voice actress had to quit her job temporarily due to illness.

I wonder who's going to replace her.
They could always use Mai Nakahara, if Rise is still not feeling well for the next season. I think she is the one who voiced Erina in the Drama CD and she seems to do an okay job.
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Old 2016-09-03, 23:59   Link #262
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Flashback pretty much killed any tension as to who was going to win. Really works better to have it after he was announced winner.
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Old 2016-09-04, 00:13   Link #263
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Sheesh, just watched the latest episode of the anime and Hayama winning still feels forced, especially the flashbacks. Now before you say anything I'm ok with Souma losing, but the reason they gave was and still feels cheap in my opinion amd the flashbacks were just there to force you to like Hayama, why not show them earlier instead of shoehorning them at that moment? All I felt was disconnected from him and his story since I barely knew anything or cared outside of Soumas next opponent, heck, Ryos' worked well and made me like the guy, so why wait until now to show it?

Well at least the next few arcs are good and then the edge will be revealed.
Because the reason he won is because he showed his past and who he was thru his cooking. It wouldn't really have any point in showing it episodes ago without spoiling on what basis the judges were gonna decide.
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Old 2016-09-04, 01:52   Link #264
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It's not actually official that Soma came second. No ratings were given. They just squabbled over it, though it seems likely that's his actual rank.
I watched that scene again and it seems that both Ryo and Soma got silver medals with only Hayama getting a gold medal. But Yuki does say that they're going to celebrate Soma coming second.
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Old 2016-09-04, 01:57   Link #265
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I'm not someone who always needs the main character to win, but damn, he lost on originality?

On the overall concept of originality based on him forming it organically? lol I can't understand a dish that multi-layered and created through natural cognitive inspiration to attempt to surpass fresher-fish is less original?

I'm cool with Hayama getting the gold, but parts of bare-chested explanation didn't jive with me...Anyways, it was still good eats...
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Old 2016-09-04, 04:00   Link #266
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I don't think he lost on originality. What he lost on was that special something that distinguishes the dish as his and his alone. It's like eating a dish, and instantly that flavor makes you think of a certain person who made it. It's individuality and specialty of that person.

So it's like McDonald's french fries. One bite, and you'll instantly know it was McDonald's. Souma did not have that sense in his dish, that distinguishes it to be his and his style alone, which people will instantly recognize when they take a bite.

In a way, Megumi is ahead of Souma in this regards. When people eat Megumi's food, I'm pretty sure they know that it is her style and that it is unique.
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Old 2016-09-04, 09:04   Link #267
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You know, the more I see Soma lost the final duels (while promise to constantly better himself), the more I see Satoshi in him. You know, back then when earlier Pokemon aired, it was quite surprising for me to see an MC in a kids show who (repeatedly) lost in the final duel(s) like Satoshi. Yet, it can still send good messages to its child/young audience to "give it your all" and "never stop improving yourself". So far, Soma seem to posses less champion-titles on his belt compared to his chef-MC predecessors (Youichi Ajiyoshi, Liu Mao Xing, Azuma Kazuma, etc) IIRC. I wonder if the mangaka took some notes from Pokemon as the approach of Soma's journey .
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Old 2016-09-04, 09:44   Link #268
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It feels quite weird Soma's father didn't teach him on quite a number of techniques
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Old 2016-09-04, 10:33   Link #269
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He probably wants Souma to discover things by himself. Teaching him various techniques may be good, but learning why they should be used it more important. Having Souma face off against opponents and either stealing their skills or improving on his own failures works much better...or, at least it would, if it could net him a victory!

While Souma doesn't really deserve winning this one, the reason for his loss was very vague; you can't expect freshmen to come up with friggin' specialties. Anyway, the part I disliked the most was Souma's own moment of reflection on what his own cooking is; albeit a single panel, it had a lot more depth in the manga.
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Old 2016-09-04, 11:22   Link #270
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While Souma doesn't really deserve winning this one, the reason for his loss was very vague; you can't expect freshmen to come up with friggin' specialties.
And they don't expect it. But Hayama had it, and thus he won because he had this trait in his cooking that the others didn't.
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Old 2016-09-04, 11:37   Link #271
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By the same token, they could have judged the dishes based on their impact and make Ryou win, or make it a battle of ingenuity and give the victory to Souma.
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Old 2016-09-04, 19:19   Link #272
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I think the point of deciding the winner by a specialty is recounted in Hayama's flashback: to be able to offer everything they have as a chef and become uniquely recognized for that. Though I think it is a pretty difficult criteria to succeed in to ask seventeen-year old chefs to come up with a specialty that's a mark of their identity as a chef.
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Old 2016-09-04, 20:49   Link #273
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LOL They are 1st years in High School, so probably around 15 years old. The issue with specialty was that it was the deciding factor when taste was around the same level between the 3. All Souma had to do was make something that tasted even better, and he would have won by that.

Also, the premise in this anime is absurd. 1st years of around 1000 students will be weeded down to around 100 students by the 2nd year. Then after that, they will be weeded down to around 20 students or so by the end of the 3rd year.

Still, though, I have LOL every time i look at the stadium. It looks like there are a few thousand students there.
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Old 2016-09-04, 21:30   Link #274
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Still, though, I have LOL every time i look at the stadium. It looks like there are a few thousand students there.
Maybe junior high school students?
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Old 2016-09-05, 01:34   Link #275
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LOL They are 1st years in High School, so probably around 15 years old. The issue with specialty was that it was the deciding factor when taste was around the same level between the 3. All Souma had to do was make something that tasted even better, and he would have won by that.

Also, the premise in this anime is absurd. 1st years of around 1000 students will be weeded down to around 100 students by the 2nd year. Then after that, they will be weeded down to around 20 students or so by the end of the 3rd year.

Still, though, I have LOL every time i look at the stadium. It looks like there are a few thousand students there.
For an institution that can have a maximum of 20 graduates annually, you'd have to wonder who endorses them to lead such extravagant school lives...well, it's either the school fees or tickets to the cook-offs :P At least that would make sense.

As for Souma making the best dish, I highly doubt he could pull one over Ryou when it comes to fish dishes.
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Old 2016-09-05, 03:29   Link #276
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I don't think he lost on originality. What he lost on was that special something that distinguishes the dish as his and his alone. It's like eating a dish, and instantly that flavor makes you think of a certain person who made it. It's individuality and specialty of that person.

So it's like McDonald's french fries. One bite, and you'll instantly know it was McDonald's. Souma did not have that sense in his dish, that distinguishes it to be his and his style alone, which people will instantly recognize when they take a bite.

In a way, Megumi is ahead of Souma in this regards. When people eat Megumi's food, I'm pretty sure they know that it is her style and that it is unique.
It's funny looking back at what Soma has done. He made the judges young again, made them dance on the greener side of a hill, took them out to an amusement park, etc. While exhilarating, none of that made the judges say hm, this is a dish by Soma, instead it was always "this is interesting!"
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Old 2016-09-05, 07:26   Link #277
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Still, though, I have LOL every time i look at the stadium. It looks like there are a few thousand students there.
Obviously the trick is that in order to pay for its Main Course extravagance and for its cooking research and experimentation, Totsuki Academy has a Reserve Course that lives off the brand name, to which people can gain access without entrance exams, just a basic fee, there's no institutionalised dropout, and they actually barely learn to cook boiled eggs and flip hamburgers .

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Old 2016-09-05, 08:18   Link #278
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I can actually understand why Hayama won, but what was unexpected for me was Souma losing. I was expecting him to win (thinking that this is a shounen series) that I didn't even notice that they're focusing on Hayama instead when they showed the flashback (also I was expecting similar flashbacks for Kurokiba and Souma but that never happened)

Looks like the next episode will show why Yukihira's going to France.
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Old 2016-09-05, 08:29   Link #279
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For an institution that can have a maximum of 20 graduates annually, you'd have to wonder who endorses them to lead such extravagant school lives...well, it's either the school fees or tickets to the cook-offs :P At least that would make sense.

As for Souma making the best dish, I highly doubt he could pull one over Ryou when it comes to fish dishes.
There's not an actual cap, that's just how it ends up.
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Old 2016-09-05, 13:56   Link #280
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You know, the more I see Soma lost the final duels (while promise to constantly better himself), the more I see Satoshi in him. You know, back then when earlier Pokemon aired, it was quite surprising for me to see an MC in a kids show who (repeatedly) lost in the final duel(s) like Satoshi. Yet, it can still send good messages to its child/young audience to "give it your all" and "never stop improving yourself". So far, Soma seem to posses less champion-titles on his belt compared to his chef-MC predecessors (Youichi Ajiyoshi, Liu Mao Xing, Azuma Kazuma, etc) IIRC. I wonder if the mangaka took some notes from Pokemon as the approach of Soma's journey .
Yeah, but in terms of what he's accomplished, he far outweighs any of his competition. Dueling with Shinomiya and taking back the 99 kitchen utensils(basically everything Itsuki was telling that other guy) is what cements himself differently amongst his peers.
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